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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 1 2012, 02:08 PM (2,449 Views) | |
| Team Four Star | Sep 1 2012, 02:08 PM Post #1 |
 
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Who wins? |
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Sep 1 2012, 02:39 PM Post #2 |
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Goku wins. He told them not to fuse because it wouldn't be enough to stop Baby Gorilla, but only him, his SSJ4 powers, and them loaning him energy would be the best way to stop him. |
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| jonte9195 | Sep 1 2012, 09:08 PM Post #3 |
RAT-TAT-TAT-TAT
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SSJ4 Goku stomps. Which is extremely stupid that part of GT was like Wrath of the dragon All over again. "He is mines to handle alone" "IF I WONT WHO WILL!!.." |
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Human Fails!!
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Sep 1 2012, 09:25 PM Post #4 |
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I was so freakin mad when he told them not to fuse. My 9 year old a*$ was running around the house cussing, I was so furious. |
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Sep 1 2012, 09:32 PM Post #5 |
 
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yeah, not to mention the resultant power loss of gotenks due to lack and or NO training from either boy in what was probably years. Like not going to church. so with goten fighting fat boo with no SSj is a punishment for not training at eoz. In gt its even worse. i would say gotenks is no stronger than vegetto in base. |
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Sep 1 2012, 09:38 PM Post #6 |
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And every villain seemed to be automatically above Vegito from the start so yeah Gotenks would of been irrelevant in that fight. Him being a cocky one surely doesn't help the situation at all either, probably getting himself killed to make matters worse. I don't understand how any of them sharing their energy with Goku even helped him at all. Edited by Professor Gohan, Sep 1 2012, 09:39 PM.
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Sep 1 2012, 09:46 PM Post #7 |
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me either. but then again he consumed their energy to go to full power ssj4 and beyond. when he did it? he was super low on energy and had NO chance against syn shenron. he was tired, hungry, and even blinded for the most part. I also think it was trying to establish a link between the saiyans. they've already displayed a sense of telepathy. Plus giving energy has always been a part of db/z goku revived frieza, didnt even know that was possible. kibit restored gohan. i think sharing chi is important here. btu at least htey werent all half dead, that way we could get a better measure on how much stronger syn actually was. cause vegeta was fodder, and fell to the fire and ice brothers. If he was on the same level? how come he fell? Gt hated vegeta, but then gave him a leg up over gohan and uub VS 17. |
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| Ryuuzaki | Sep 1 2012, 10:51 PM Post #8 |
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In Anime ( Z ) Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ3. In GT Goku is a lot stronger than kids. I really have Kid Goku SSJ2 > Gotenks GT SSJ3. |
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| Ahri | Sep 1 2012, 11:31 PM Post #9 |
 
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A possible theory of why GT Gotenks would be weak: SSJ Goten is pitiful compared to Pan as Bebi said. So Trunks would have to LOWER his power by A LOT just to reach Goten level and when they fuse they will be weak as hell Edited by Ahri, Sep 3 2012, 07:17 PM.
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Sep 2 2012, 08:17 AM Post #10 |
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im not sure gotens the one that got weak, trunks was so useles to bebi? that he kept him in the reserve. bebi couldnt wait to get ahold to goten, till he discovered gohan. thinking trunks is the weakest link here. |
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| Kblo247 | Sep 2 2012, 01:04 PM Post #11 |
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Goten wasnt half of what the saiyans were expected to be. He got his power as a SSJ called puny in comparison to the space saiyans, and he wasn't atrong like Vegeta or Gohan who were still over Pan in case there was a threat Baby sought Goten out because he was the easiest target. He basically called him out and neverhiss what he was, while he was trying to sneak Trunks and Pan before to assimilate with them. The thing is Goten being the weakest gave Baby a saiyan he could actually fight if need be and not be overwhelmed by, and then to top it off it allowed Baby to stay inside a saiyan body and understand the DNA (Goku even notes it) for later assimilations or takeovers which he couldn't do inside Tunks who forced him out (not his egg he left) and knew there was no way in hell Pan wouldn't shoot him out if Trunks could at the time as her power and pride were bigger. Goten was the perfect first host because his will not power could drive him out. That let Baby study the saiyans and integrate then into Gohan who was forced to transform to conceal Gotens version of final atonement so he wouldn't have his brother blow himself up. Then they got in Vegeta. Trunks was taken over by an already planted egg that had been in there for a while, maybe months with how fast time moved in GT, and it just needed to be activated by Baby when his powers were peaked thanks to Vegeta. In fact the only three not egged were Uub who hid deep in the mountains to conceal himself, Piccolo who probably felt it coming thanks to Kami, and Buu who just put it into a pod in his stomach So yeah Trunks would need to lower himself to Gotens level which is nowhere near the same as Vegeta and Goku forming Gogeta. Likewise the fusion wouldn't provide power that could deal with SSJ2 Vegeta or Majuub let alone ssj4 Goku Edited by Kblo247, Sep 2 2012, 01:08 PM.
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Sep 2 2012, 04:57 PM Post #12 |
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thats the thing though, trunks THOUGHT he fought off the infection but didnt. bebis words were clear, he wasnt needed. He was used as a vessel to get to earth and spread the virus. nothing else. when he ran into goten he liked what he saw, But since he had already run into the strongest? of course goten would be weak in comparison. he didnt use trunks and COULDNT get to pan, in the end? infecting gohan became the plan. He used trunks to do it, because gotens power is garbage compared to his brother. But bebi made it clear he was stronger than trunks, EVERYONE is stronger than trunks. So in the end at the time trunks got infected is when bebi decided he wouldnt use him, but then 6 more months in space and trunks got stronger along with pan and goku from fighting. But even then he was relegated to take care of the ship, and was embarrassed by pan in the strength dept. Goten WAS weak, but i still think trunks was weaker at the time he got infected. |
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| Kblo247 | Sep 3 2012, 12:24 PM Post #13 |
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Baby didn't use Trunks to spread to Goten. Goten was on earth while Trunks was in space with an egg in him. An egg that activated after Baby was inside Vegeta. Baby couldn't take him over or activate said egg to his powers increased. Baby outright just took control of Goten The virus was spread before Trunks, Goku, and Pan even got back as Dende and everyone were infected besides Goku and Pan when they gave them the balls Edited by Kblo247, Sep 3 2012, 12:25 PM.
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Sep 3 2012, 06:51 PM Post #14 |
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ur right, gohan got it from goten during the fight, and the planet was already infected when they touched down. bebi was putting his work in. i still think that bebi wasnt strong enough to take trunks during the initial infection, and thats why it didnt happen. But bebi made it clear, that trunks was crap. im finding it hard to guess this from what happened. either way, gotenks wasnt of any help meaning that even together the boys meant nothing. if trunks is still stronger than goten? then its just his natural inclination, i mean, he did train in the gravity chamber when goten was in the forest with his brother. All of the bios indicate that goten and trunks straight up stopped training. How that affects them i dont know. |
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Sep 3 2012, 07:15 PM Post #15 |
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I guess we do see Goten training last and that was with Goku at the EoZ. At the tournament they both had a date I think so I don't know what those boys did and not did. But whose to say that little bit of training with Goku did anything? They both slacked but I guess it's hard to tell whose stronger before the space adventures in GT. Edited by Professor Gohan, Sep 3 2012, 07:17 PM.
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