Difference between Full Power Perfect Cell & MSSJ Kid Gohan

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Difference between Full Power Perfect Cell & MSSJ Kid Gohan
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Kblo247	Aug 19 2012, 09:03 PM Post #16
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	The way the others reacted you would have to think Cell was using more power than vs Goku when he blasted Gohan. Goku knew he was fine but the others didn't



valdain	Aug 19 2012, 09:06 PM Post #17
Posts: 51 Group: Member Member #8,051 Joined: August 2, 2012	Kblo247 Aug 19 2012, 09:03 PM The way the others reacted you would have to think Cell was using more power than vs Goku when he blasted Gohan. Goku knew he was fine but the others didn't The others reacted that way because Gohan is a kid.



Kblo247	Aug 19 2012, 09:22 PM Post #18
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Gohan isw a kid, but he's a kid who Piccolo, Krillin, and Vegeta knew damn well was a survivor. They wouldn't write him off because he took something that wouldn't hurt Goku. They had seen him versus NAppa, Vegeta, Frieza, and the like and even trained with him in the case of Piccolo and Krillin. I mean they saw him get his neck snapped and not die because he held on to Goku came. I just can't see Cell's attacks being weaker than vs Goku especially with Gohan already showing to be stronger than Goku



~~Super Vegetto~~	Aug 19 2012, 09:30 PM Post #19
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	Kblo247 Aug 19 2012, 08:27 PM Cell thought he killed Gohan when he blast him point blank range, he barely scratched him. Gohan wasn't hurt, tired, or even mad is my point. IF Cell was above the power he put out versus Goku, then that just means Gohan was holding back while also being above their previous levels as well. If he was significantly weaker, he would have at least been hurt or shook by the point blank blast. He just didnt want to fight. And yes Cell used his full speed to catch Gohan, but nothing says Gohan couldn't keep track of him. HE let himself be hit, HE let Cell blast him, HE let Cell bearhug him, HE LET IT ALL HAPPEN because he didn't want to fight let alone get into the fight and lose control Cell said that he underestimated Gohan after he though that he killed him. Cell was in same power just like against Goku ( only diffrent speed ). Actualy Gohan was trying to avoide Cell, but couldnt because Cell was faster.
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Kblo247	Aug 19 2012, 09:59 PM Post #20
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Yes but he could have defended himself is my point. If he could kick Cell and make his legs buckle effortlessly, he could put his hands up and block, but he never attempted to do so because he knew Cell couldn't hurt him.



Prince .	Aug 19 2012, 10:33 PM Post #21
NO.1 Miz fan in the world . MIZ IS AWESOME . Posts: 2,245 Group: Probation Member #7,275 Joined: February 3, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Super Vegetto Aug 19 2012, 12:55 AM Kblo247 Aug 19 2012, 12:50 AM I'd say probably 20% at most. The thing with Cell is he wasn't at full power, but was at full speed versus Gohan. However there is nothing to say Gohan was at full power as a MsSJ either like Goku was, as Cells attacks be it the blasts or bearhugs did no damage, yet a kick from Gohan made Cells body shake to he fell. Gohan as a MSSJ had no real rhyme or reason to want to fight him or stop him, he hadn't hurt his friends, he hadn't seen him kill,meh didn't care abut the androids he absorbed which were meant to kill everyone eh cared about, so there was literally nothing making him say I want to fight Cell and I want to use my power Gohan was full power. He powers up to 100% just like Goku and gets stronger aura. Than is the point where he surpassed Goku and everyone saw that. Cells attacks didnt hurt him so much becuse Cell was still using same suppression just like against Goku. Power wise, Gohan is > suppressed Perfect Cell against 100% Goku, but because Cell used his full speed he couldnt do any more shoots at him. Btw imo i dont know what is the perfect gap but one way we can go for : FP Perfect Cell is definitly above Initial SSJ2 Gohan, but its not clear how much Gohan got stronger from transforming so we cant have perfect gap for them. Initial SSjin 2 kid Gohan ?????? the only way he could supress his ki as SSjin 2 is if he masters the form but in the fight against Cell he was a fresh SSjin 2 .



~~Super Vegetto~~	Aug 19 2012, 10:52 PM Post #22
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	PrinCe . Aug 19 2012, 10:33 PM Super Vegetto Aug 19 2012, 12:55 AM Kblo247 Aug 19 2012, 12:50 AM I'd say probably 20% at most. The thing with Cell is he wasn't at full power, but was at full speed versus Gohan. However there is nothing to say Gohan was at full power as a MsSJ either like Goku was, as Cells attacks be it the blasts or bearhugs did no damage, yet a kick from Gohan made Cells body shake to he fell. Gohan as a MSSJ had no real rhyme or reason to want to fight him or stop him, he hadn't hurt his friends, he hadn't seen him kill,meh didn't care abut the androids he absorbed which were meant to kill everyone eh cared about, so there was literally nothing making him say I want to fight Cell and I want to use my power Gohan was full power. He powers up to 100% just like Goku and gets stronger aura. Than is the point where he surpassed Goku and everyone saw that. Cells attacks didnt hurt him so much becuse Cell was still using same suppression just like against Goku. Power wise, Gohan is > suppressed Perfect Cell against 100% Goku, but because Cell used his full speed he couldnt do any more shoots at him. Btw imo i dont know what is the perfect gap but one way we can go for : FP Perfect Cell is definitly above Initial SSJ2 Gohan, but its not clear how much Gohan got stronger from transforming so we cant have perfect gap for them. Initial SSjin 2 kid Gohan ?????? the only way he could supress his ki as SSjin 2 is if he masters the form but in the fight against Cell he was a fresh SSjin 2 . You have 2 options to solve this : Gohan was initialy suppressed and used his powers in instant ( like punching Cell, relising kamehameha in instant ). Other option is that Gohans dorment powers are result of beating FP Perfect Cell, Buff Perfect Cell and SPC which is pretty much not logical for weak SSJ2 boost. I go with first one,because it makes most sence and if you still dont understand what i said check out this topic and memes gap theory for Gohans power : http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8369647/1/
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+ Pyrus	Aug 19 2012, 11:46 PM Post #23
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Perfect Cell's full power scared the crap out of everyone. MSSjin Gohan's power was amazing, but nothing scary. I don't know how this is debatable, personally...
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* Crashbreaka	Aug 20 2012, 03:19 AM Post #24
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	Darth Pyrus Aug 19 2012, 11:46 PM Perfect Cell's full power scared the crap out of everyone. MSSjin Gohan's power was amazing, but nothing scary. I don't know how this is debatable, personally... Considering there's not much evidence either way as to how powerful Cell was at the time, this topic is entirely debatable. Kblo, keep fighting the good fight man. You've got it spot on IMO. Edited by Crashbreaka, Aug 20 2012, 05:19 AM.



Prince .	Aug 20 2012, 03:35 AM Post #25
NO.1 Miz fan in the world . MIZ IS AWESOME . Posts: 2,245 Group: Probation Member #7,275 Joined: February 3, 2012 Gender Not Specified	@Super Vegetto : what inner power is ?



Kblo247	Aug 20 2012, 03:59 AM Post #26
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Darth Pyrus Aug 19 2012, 11:46 PM Perfect Cell's full power scared the crap out of everyone. MSSjin Gohan's power was amazing, but nothing scary. I don't know how this is debatable, personally... So you think his ussj like form is touching Gohan at his full power in a prolonged fight (assuming Gohan wanted to fight) and not being treated like Trunks. His budd form freaked everyone out besides Gohan, who looked at him the same way he did his FP Perfect self, not excited, just left wondering whats the point in all this



+ Pyrus	Aug 20 2012, 05:12 AM Post #27
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Kblo247 Aug 20 2012, 03:59 AM Darth Pyrus Aug 19 2012, 11:46 PM Perfect Cell's full power scared the crap out of everyone. MSSjin Gohan's power was amazing, but nothing scary. I don't know how this is debatable, personally... So you think his ussj like form is touching Gohan at his full power in a prolonged fight (assuming Gohan wanted to fight) and not being treated like Trunks. His budd form freaked everyone out besides Gohan, who looked at him the same way he did his FP Perfect self, not excited, just left wondering whats the point in all this Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2. Why would he care about a power so much smaller than his?
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Kblo247	Aug 20 2012, 05:36 AM Post #28
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	The others reacted like Gohan's power was weaker. The fact is Gohan at no point versus Perfect Cell, MSSJ or SSJ2 ever was impressed by him or scared of him. He didnt even want to waste his time fighting him. I honestly believe at both levels, when facing Cell he didn't think Cell could hurt or kill him, nor did he wish to kill Cell until Cell gave him a reason by attacking Goku/Piccolo/Krillin Besides the only time Goku even knows Gohan can go ssj2 beforehand is in the anime filler where Gohan first becomes it unconsciously when pushed to his limits. In the manga he was certain ssj Gohan could beat Cell if pushed in a corner without being an ASSJ or USSJ, as he didn't know there was a ssj2 himself. Edited by Kblo247, Aug 20 2012, 05:38 AM.



Hurry My Curry	Aug 20 2012, 06:03 AM Post #29
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	crashbreaka Aug 20 2012, 03:19 AM Darth Pyrus Aug 19 2012, 11:46 PM Perfect Cell's full power scared the crap out of everyone. MSSjin Gohan's power was amazing, but nothing scary. I don't know how this is debatable, personally... Considering there's not much evidence either way as to how powerful Cell was at the time, this topic is entirely debatable. Kblo, keep fighting the good fight man. You've got it spot on IMO. Cell increased his speed not power. The same Cell that was stated to be one or two steps ahead of Goku. The same Cell that was being effortlessly dodged by Gohan. Cell True Speed >= SSJ Gohan > Cell Against Goku > SSJ Goku. Edited by Hurry My Curry, Aug 20 2012, 06:04 AM.
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+ Pyrus	Aug 20 2012, 06:26 AM Post #30
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Kblo247 Aug 20 2012, 05:36 AM The others reacted like Gohan's power was weaker. The fact is Gohan at no point versus Perfect Cell, MSSJ or SSJ2 ever was impressed by him or scared of him. He didnt even want to waste his time fighting him. I honestly believe at both levels, when facing Cell he didn't think Cell could hurt or kill him, nor did he wish to kill Cell until Cell gave him a reason by attacking Goku/Piccolo/Krillin Besides the only time Goku even knows Gohan can go ssj2 beforehand is in the anime filler where Gohan first becomes it unconsciously when pushed to his limits. In the manga he was certain ssj Gohan could beat Cell if pushed in a corner without being an ASSJ or USSJ, as he didn't know there was a ssj2 himself. Cell didn't reveal his full power until after the transformation. Gohan had no reason to be scared of the level of power Cell was emitting in their short fight. And Goku obviously miscalculated Cell's true power.
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