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Cell Games Vegeta = MSSJ?
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NavonWise	Aug 15 2012, 12:42 AM Post #16
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:14 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:01 AM Well it's possible he was on the process of mastering the SSJ, so it's possible that he didn't fully master it yet. Goku being a genius knew exactly what to do and not the mistakes to do, while Vegeta, well who knows how he trained to master the SSJ state. He's not like Goku so I doubt he trained like Goku to master it. What mistake can you make? You just sit around in your SSJ state and train lightly... What PrinceVegeta77 said. Basically Goku said that he and Gohan would stay in the SSJ state and do basic training, something like that. Vegeta still would the mentality of surpassing Goku, who knows what training did he take?
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Hurry My Curry	Aug 15 2012, 12:45 AM Post #17
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:42 AM Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:14 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:01 AM Well it's possible he was on the process of mastering the SSJ, so it's possible that he didn't fully master it yet. Goku being a genius knew exactly what to do and not the mistakes to do, while Vegeta, well who knows how he trained to master the SSJ state. He's not like Goku so I doubt he trained like Goku to master it. What mistake can you make? You just sit around in your SSJ state and train lightly... What PrinceVegeta77 said. Basically Goku said that he and Gohan would stay in the SSJ state and do basic training, something like that. Vegeta still would the mentality of surpassing Goku, who knows what training did he take? Come on man. Goku considers Vegeta a fighting master as well. If Vegeta, even after seeing Goku in that state, can't figure out how to do it the right way, he deserves no credit as being a genius.
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+ Kyouks	Aug 15 2012, 12:54 AM Post #18
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:45 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:42 AM Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:14 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:01 AM Well it's possible he was on the process of mastering the SSJ, so it's possible that he didn't fully master it yet. Goku being a genius knew exactly what to do and not the mistakes to do, while Vegeta, well who knows how he trained to master the SSJ state. He's not like Goku so I doubt he trained like Goku to master it. What mistake can you make? You just sit around in your SSJ state and train lightly... What PrinceVegeta77 said. Basically Goku said that he and Gohan would stay in the SSJ state and do basic training, something like that. Vegeta still would the mentality of surpassing Goku, who knows what training did he take? Come on man. Goku considers Vegeta a fighting master as well. If Vegeta, even after seeing Goku in that state, can't figure out how to do it the right way, he deserves no credit as being a genius. That's the thing - his mentality of surpassing Goku would blind him, and he'd think Goku did something complicated. Besides, most evidence at the Cell Games points to Vegeta being an ASSJ. Spoiler: click to toggle Looks like an ASSJ to me.



NavonWise	Aug 15 2012, 12:54 AM Post #19
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	He was called a genius, but not like Goku. And who knows, I mean like I said all Vegeta wanted was to surpass Goku, he didn't care for Cell especially in those times, and that could have blinded him in doing it the right way. You beat me to it PrinceVegeta77 -__- Edited by NavonWise, Aug 15 2012, 12:55 AM.
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Kruegs Outlandish	Aug 15 2012, 01:00 AM Post #20
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	would not have hung with Cell Junior if he were ASSJ; he would have tired out. Vegeta trained in SSJ during RST2.



Hurry My Curry	Aug 15 2012, 01:04 AM Post #21
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	That's even more pathetic. He took a 2nd rosat trip. He didn't achieve MSSJ. He uses ASSJ and he's still way weaker than Goku. Omg.
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+ Clearin	Aug 15 2012, 01:08 AM Post #22
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I don't see why he can't be MSSj. Personally I think he was.



+ Pyrus	Aug 15 2012, 01:14 AM Post #23
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	PrinceVegeta77 Aug 15 2012, 12:54 AM Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:45 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:42 AM Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:14 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:01 AM Well it's possible he was on the process of mastering the SSJ, so it's possible that he didn't fully master it yet. Goku being a genius knew exactly what to do and not the mistakes to do, while Vegeta, well who knows how he trained to master the SSJ state. He's not like Goku so I doubt he trained like Goku to master it. What mistake can you make? You just sit around in your SSJ state and train lightly... What PrinceVegeta77 said. Basically Goku said that he and Gohan would stay in the SSJ state and do basic training, something like that. Vegeta still would the mentality of surpassing Goku, who knows what training did he take? Come on man. Goku considers Vegeta a fighting master as well. If Vegeta, even after seeing Goku in that state, can't figure out how to do it the right way, he deserves no credit as being a genius. That's the thing - his mentality of surpassing Goku would blind him, and he'd think Goku did something complicated. Besides, most evidence at the Cell Games points to Vegeta being an ASSJ. Spoiler: click to toggle Looks like an ASSJ to me. Doesn't look like Super Saiyan Grade 2 to me. At all. The muscle mass and auras are not at all alike.
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valdain	Aug 15 2012, 01:15 AM Post #24
Posts: 51 Group: Member Member #8,051 Joined: August 2, 2012	Darth Pyrus Aug 15 2012, 01:14 AM PrinceVegeta77 Aug 15 2012, 12:54 AM Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:45 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:42 AM Victorious Unstoppable Aug 15 2012, 12:14 AM Weskur Aug 15 2012, 12:01 AM Well it's possible he was on the process of mastering the SSJ, so it's possible that he didn't fully master it yet. Goku being a genius knew exactly what to do and not the mistakes to do, while Vegeta, well who knows how he trained to master the SSJ state. He's not like Goku so I doubt he trained like Goku to master it. What mistake can you make? You just sit around in your SSJ state and train lightly... What PrinceVegeta77 said. Basically Goku said that he and Gohan would stay in the SSJ state and do basic training, something like that. Vegeta still would the mentality of surpassing Goku, who knows what training did he take? Come on man. Goku considers Vegeta a fighting master as well. If Vegeta, even after seeing Goku in that state, can't figure out how to do it the right way, he deserves no credit as being a genius. That's the thing - his mentality of surpassing Goku would blind him, and he'd think Goku did something complicated. Besides, most evidence at the Cell Games points to Vegeta being an ASSJ. Spoiler: click to toggle Looks like an ASSJ to me. Doesn't look like Super Saiyan Grade 2 to me. At all. The muscle mass and auras are not at all alike. I sadly agree.



Hurry My Curry	Aug 15 2012, 01:30 AM Post #25
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	The top part somewhat looks like an USSJ, but the bottom one not so much.
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Billa	Aug 15 2012, 01:38 AM Post #26
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	My view is that Vegeta attained only ASSJ at Cell Games. As he knew USSJ's weakness, there's no way of him choosing that as his combat state against Cell. Personally, I believe Vegeta attained MSSJ only durin the 7 years gap.



NavonWise	Aug 15 2012, 02:00 AM Post #27
Realist Rapper Alive Posts: 1,889 Group: Member Member #6,948 Joined: November 5, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Well I truly believe he was half way there, he just didn't concentrate enough because he was fantasizing over Goku too much.
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~~p123~~	Aug 15 2012, 08:55 AM Post #28
Posts: 2,148 Group: Banned Member #5,120 Joined: August 9, 2010	Vegeta likely trained too hard and overexhausted himself . MSSJ training is very light and basically not doing anything. Vegeta and Trunks are not an easy going people and most likely pushed too hard and didn't get to achieve the Mssj form. Vegeta and Trunks have regular ol Ssj auras they are not ussj or assj or anything.



~~Super Vegetto~~	Aug 15 2012, 10:18 AM Post #29
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	Trunks looks like MSSJ after Cell games, for some reason. Shouldnt that mean something for Vegeta ?
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Kruegs Outlandish	Aug 15 2012, 10:26 AM Post #30
Posts: 2,526 Group: Duplicate Member #6,436 Joined: July 1, 2011	Someone who has mastered Super Saiyan will "look like a Super Saiyan" when at (or, probably, somewhere near) full power... So, if Trunks looks (M)SSJ after Cell Games, and doesn't look (M)SSJ at Cell Games, then it probably means that he was near full power at Cell Games, and not at full power after Cell Games.



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