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| What belief do you hold that isn't popular on the internet? | |
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| Spirit Metaphor | Aug 30 2012, 01:58 AM Post #61 |
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The belief in God is fundamentally an enduring form of social psychosis, that's all there really is to it. @Mc Esse Like-minded people will form clubs in the real world. Just as these clubs are subsets of a community, users of different websites are subsets of people with internet access who are in turn a subset of society in general. It wouldn't be accurate to refer to separate gatherings of people as being isolated from one another because communication channels are open between them. Some of these gatherings are far more unpopular than others (proponents of free-market anarchy for example). I agree though, any belief can be construed as unpopular if the comparative degree is arbitrary. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Aug 30 2012, 02:00 AM.
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| * Crashbreaka | Aug 31 2012, 05:55 AM Post #62 |
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Here's another one. There is no such thing as idiocy. There is only ignorance tied with people acting like an idiot. Edited by Crashbreaka, Aug 31 2012, 05:55 AM.
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| Spirit Metaphor | Aug 31 2012, 06:08 AM Post #63 |
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So what you mean is that there are no innate idiots, only moronic choices and opinions? Depends how you define idiot. Ask 'compared to what?. Some people are definitely more intellectually capable than others. I agree, calling someone an idiot with or without comparison is an extremely insensitive thing to do. If they are in fact an idiot, then you should be patient with them and help them understand how their perspective is incorrect. If they really aren't an idiot then it's just slander designed to inflate your own ego and diminish theirs without a rational argument (psychological projection). Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Aug 31 2012, 06:11 AM.
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| * Crashbreaka | Aug 31 2012, 09:15 AM Post #64 |
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I define an idiot as a person who is neither correct or misinformed on a subject, yet choose to act like they know what they are talking about, presiferously going against another opinion. Intellectual capability would have nothing to do with it, as even informed people can be guilty of 'acting like an idiot' so far as I define it. What I think you thought I meant was the term misinformed: when a person a person is exposed to certain information that could possibly be correct when in fact it's not. It wouldn't be fair to call that person an idiot for going off a different source of information, when in fact . It is fairer to expose him to a true source of information, assuming you know the source of information is true because if it wasn't you would either be as misinformed as the person you're communicating, or acting like an idiot yourself: You would be acting like you know about a given subject, when in reality you do not. But this is just my opinion. Don't take my word for it because I fully understand I could be wrong
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| Spirit Metaphor | Aug 31 2012, 09:43 AM Post #65 |
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It would also be pretty futile to expose an 'idiot' to logical conclusions without first explaining the methodology used to reach them. Someone who was never taught proper reasoning will only ever reach valid conclusions by accident. They can easily become convinced that a false opinion is true since their methodology is flawed. It isn't a matter of being exposed to the correct information, but rather knowing how to process information.
Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Aug 31 2012, 09:44 AM.
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| * Crashbreaka | Aug 31 2012, 10:47 AM Post #66 |
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Exactly, which is why I posted a few pages back that schools should teach logical reasoning so that people don't go around being wrong all the time. However, I kinda like having such diversity of opinion caused by others of another train of thought. it can make communicating with people much more entertaining rather than people who just constantly agree with each other. It makes the world more interesting
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| Spirit Metaphor | Aug 31 2012, 12:46 PM Post #67 |
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Sure, differences in aesthetic preferences are great, but when it comes to the big ethical no-nos it would be wise to make sure everyone is on the same page. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Aug 31 2012, 12:50 PM.
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Sep 1 2012, 02:20 AM Post #68 |
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Here's a few more that I thought of: 1. The "no child left behind" idea was a huge mistake. 2. No one is 100% heterosexual. There's no such thing. 3. I support a citizen's right to bear arms. Like a couple of people already mentioned, most beliefs are unpopular on the internet. You will always encounter flaming and people who disagree with you. |
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| * Crashbreaka | Sep 1 2012, 03:14 AM Post #69 |
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Most parents are fools to think they know what is best for their child / children. That's another one. Edited by Crashbreaka, Sep 1 2012, 03:15 AM.
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Sep 1 2012, 03:18 AM Post #70 |
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logic INDUCES this, not hinders it. If everyone thought logically, then people wouldnt be so offended to discover they are wrong. |
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| * Crashbreaka | Sep 1 2012, 04:43 AM Post #71 |
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I think that was what I was saying. |
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Sep 1 2012, 04:56 AM Post #72 |
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actually you said that everyone would stop making dumb decisions. Thats not true. but since logic can be approached from many different angles, the only things that is taken into account are the variables. The ones that cant be controlled are taken into account first. Thus people will still be wrong, although it could be strictly subjective. |
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| Spirit Metaphor | Sep 1 2012, 06:30 AM Post #73 |
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If everyone starts at first principles and follows a valid process of reasoning then they should always come to the same objective conclusions in any given context. By first principles I mean: 1. A ≡ A. A is the same as itself. A cannot equal B. 2. Things cannot simultaneously possess contradictory properties. 3. There can be no ambiguity in the facts themselves, only in names. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Sep 1 2012, 06:32 AM.
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| Cal | Sep 1 2012, 06:33 AM Post #74 |
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I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade!
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A can be A' objectively though. |
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Sep 1 2012, 06:58 AM Post #75 |
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The only objective would be to use logic to find a solution, it doesnt mean at all that you will come up with that same conclusion, just that you recognize that from any point of view its VALID logic to whichever and WHY you have come to that conclusion. |
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