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Topic Started: Jul 6 2012, 06:17 PM (33,202 Views)
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Mar 22 2016, 12:02 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle I guess, I just see no reason why Carol of all people would suddenly change.
Would have thought Maggie would be the one to be like "Holy s*** I'm about to be a mother and I'm a murderer"
As for latest episode...
Carol leaves again? I just have no idea why her character would do this, maybe I'm just detached from humanity somewhat but it seems forced to me. It'll be pretty lame if she just completely leaves, hopefully Morgan hunts her down there's definitely more character interaction there. Kind of s***ty of her to leave really she's like one of the most valuable members of the group.
Denise dying was just...oh so formulaic. "This character is suddenly getting a lot of development and nobody has died for a while...sayonara!" cool death though. That fight was shot in such a weird way there were like 12 dudes there how on Earth would they have all survived and missed people standing in the open?
And now they don't have a doctor, Carl is rather lucky this happened after his eye got destroyed.
Also Carol had a small amount of medical training from Hershel, her leaving makes even less sense...
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+ Clearin
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Mar 22 2016, 12:24 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle The majority of this epsiode was pretty boring to me. Supply run episodes seemed more focused on either character development or fake-out scares. The latter is usually predictable and boring, the former is okay, but I dunno...I haven't really been that invested in any new characters since season 3 or 4. To be honest I've been having trouble telling Tara and Rosita apart somehow. Rick, Daryl, Glenn, Carol, Carl, Maggie and Michonne are the only characters I'm really interested in any more, and Abraham and Eugene to a smaller extent. I get that they tried to develop Denise in this episode, but even ignoring the fact she died just as she was doing so, we literally had another character doing the exact same development in the exact same episode.
Things picked up near the end, doing what the show does best - keeping the audience on the edge of their seat with intense human to human conflict.
I'm also glad Daryl has his crossbow back.
I made the stupid mistake of checking the TWD tag on Tumblr to see general reactions of the episode. Of course they're all throwing a hissy fit because a lesbian character died. Apparently if you have an uncommon sexuality you should be invincible, because killing a lesbian character in a show where hundreds of people of all ages, races, genders and sexual orientations have died, is "mistreatment of LGBT"
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Mar 22 2016, 12:45 AM
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Spoiler: click to toggle Urgh yeah seen that s*** everywhere with The 100 too a lesbian character died in it recently.
That show has a higher character death count than TWD and it's only got 3 seasons lol, there's literally no reason why writers should cheapen a story by giving LGBT characters a magical shield. (at least less people scream racism when an ethnic character dies now)
That said, the main cast sure as hell has a magical shield but I can see how it'd be hard to kill off a selling point, imagine how many people will stop watching if Daryl dies? He has a huge fandom that will flip their s***.
Regardless they need to stop killing off the "weak" characters and let some of them actually become strong and more than just side characters to pick off whenever things are a bit dry.
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Mar 23 2016, 10:36 AM
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It truly was a Shawshank redemption
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Spoiler: click to toggle That death honestly shocked me. I agree with Clearin that the episode was going a little slow, so that death caught me unaware. Again, members of the group managed to escape a hugely outnumbered situation. Also, why didn't the guy just shoot Eugene in the head when he was biting his dick? Eugene was biting down for quite a lengthy time and the guy had a gun in his hand (unless he dropped it when he was bit and I didn't notice).
I get what they're doing with Carol's character development and think it makes sense for it to happen to someone, the killing taking it's toll mentally, but I don't get why she's leaving the camp. There are ways for her to contribute to the group without killing.
Also, something I was thinking about during the episode, is it realistic to have overweight people cast on the show? Hasn't it been years since the outbreak? Surely the lack of food would have started to take it's toll on people's weight by now.
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Mar 23 2016, 12:45 PM
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Only as realistic as freshly mown lawns and roads that aren't overgrown with weeds. I just assumed she used to be way fatter since I think she looks like a person who might have lost some weight.
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Mar 23 2016, 02:14 PM
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Izanagi!
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- Mar 23 2016, 10:36 AM
Spoiler: click to toggle That death honestly shocked me. I agree with Clearin that the episode was going a little slow, so that death caught me unaware. Again, members of the group managed to escape a hugely outnumbered situation. Also, why didn't the guy just shoot Eugene in the head when he was biting his dick? Eugene was biting down for quite a lengthy time and the guy had a gun in his hand (unless he dropped it when he was bit and I didn't notice).
I get what they're doing with Carol's character development and think it makes sense for it to happen to someone, the killing taking it's toll mentally, but I don't get why she's leaving the camp. There are ways for her to contribute to the group without killing. Also, something I was thinking about during the episode, is it realistic to have overweight people cast on the show? Hasn't it been years since the outbreak? Surely the lack of food would have started to take it's toll on people's weight by now.
Spoiler: click to toggle It's just another way to show how unprepared the Alexandrians are. They've had enough food to be able to carry on living as they were before.
Everybody in Alexandria is gonna have to prepare to fight and kill. They've got to be expecting the Saviours to attack Alexandria at some point, and Carol just doesn't feel as though she'd be able to stop herself interfering. She doesn't want to kill, but if she sees her friends getting attacked, she knows that she will.
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Mar 23 2016, 02:45 PM
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I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the Walking Dead wiki lists Carl's age in season 1 as 12, 13 in season 3, and 14 in season 4 without any noted increases, so the whole thing has been about 2 years. That's kinda the problem with child actors in long running shows, he's clearly much older than 14.
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Mar 23 2016, 03:01 PM
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They should have ran out of petrol ages ago. That stuff has a sell by date.
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Mar 23 2016, 03:09 PM
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Should also be overrun by deer and such, food would be plentiful
Spoiler: click to toggle Still wouldn't have Carol down as the sort to leave the group entirely, she was willing to kill two innocent and defenceless people to protect everyone during the outbreak of that illness and now she refuses to kil everyone because she's seen Morgan be a bit crazy? Sure seems to be the trigger. Comic death spoiler some of you know about I think it'd make more sense that Maggie and Carol leave if Glenn dies, could see them both not wanting to be part of that world any more and of course pregnant Maggie going on her own would be insanity.
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Mar 23 2016, 03:14 PM
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There's a thread on TWD Subreddit titled "[Spoilers] Massive Finale S06E16 Spoilers from TSDF.". It's taking all I have to not click that link.
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Mar 25 2016, 02:13 AM
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I seen one with a picture of a comic book character holding a thing, which I'm pretty sure has completely spoiled a scene for me...
I'll never understand why people actively seek out spoilers, temptation is one thing but to want to know everything before you experience it first hand is the definition of insanity to me
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Mar 28 2016, 06:21 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle That last scene almost gave me a freaking heart attack. Well it's pretty obvious he's survived..for now at least. He's still been injured and is in the saviours possession. The way they did it seems kinda weird, like they clearly wanted to us to think Daryl had been killed by how fast it happened, yet they filmed it in a way that if you rewatch it carefully it's obvious he didn't get shot in the head (plus Dwight's line kinda says it too).
The episode was okay, but I'm really hating Morgan. I probably would have liked him in season 1 and 2, I liked Dale who had a very similar mindset, but he just does not fit into things this late in the story. The way he justified not killing that wolf, because he later saved Denise is f***ing stupid. She wouldn't have been in danger in the first place if he didn't let the wolf live.
Carol continues to be a badass. She's REALLY hard to read tbh, I can't tell if her fear is genuine or not. It's some pretty amazing acting really.
Looking forward to the finale
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Mar 30 2016, 01:39 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle That last scene almost gave me a freaking heart attack. Well it's pretty obvious he's survived..for now at least. He's still been injured and is in the saviours possession. The way they did it seems kinda weird, like they clearly wanted to us to think Daryl had been killed by how fast it happened, yet they filmed it in a way that if you rewatch it carefully it's obvious he didn't get shot in the head (plus Dwight's line kinda says it too).
The episode was okay, but I'm really hating Morgan. I probably would have liked him in season 1 and 2, I liked Dale who had a very similar mindset, but he just does not fit into things this late in the story. The way he justified not killing that wolf, because he later saved Denise is f***ing stupid. She wouldn't have been in danger in the first place if he didn't let the wolf live.
Carol continues to be a badass. She's REALLY hard to read tbh, I can't tell if her fear is genuine or not. It's some pretty amazing acting really.
Looking forward to the finale
Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah this episode had some great moments but God damn I hate how oblivious the characters in this show are... They're supposed to be these hardcore survival badasses yet they don't notice people standing behind trees or obvious traps. Also Saviours have been observing Alexandria...interesting. Are all these guards even going to be useful? Clearly the Saviours have some decent training, potentially military. Wouldn't surprise me if the main guy was some sort of ex special forces. Carol is insanely OP she needs a nerf. I seen that coming but it was still badass. Yeah Daryl should be safe now I doubt they'll injure him, have him live only to kill him off in the very same episode Yeah Morgan annoys me too, I don't see how anyone can't easily confront his mindset. That guy he stopped Rick shooting had one of those spears and some sort of armour so a Saviour with potentially some military stuff, killing him or injuring him would have provided much needed info. I understand how his character got that way but everyone should recognize how naive it is. I just really hope Saviours or Neagan/whatever don't randomly have a change of heart just to suit Morgan's views and make him "right", that would be silly.
As for who might die in the end...
Comic death spoilers Glenn and Maggie shower scene? Maggie being happy? Magic baby senses?(y'know how films and stuff make it seem like a fetus knows their father is in trouble)
It seems almost too obvious Glenn's going to die.
I just hope Maggie doesn't miscarry it'd be nice to see her live on with a baby, otherwise she'd probably commit suicide, realistically. Her and Glenn as well as the baby is clearly her whole world. Surely they can't off another pregnant/recently pregnant chick? The baby would be a nice "hope for the future" message.
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Apr 4 2016, 02:47 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle That could have been one of the best scenes in TWD. It had so much build up, it was terrifying. And they blew it all with that absolutely garbage ending. Even when it picks up again in the premier, it's already lost all the impact it had.
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Apr 4 2016, 05:25 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, I was disappointed by that episode. For a season finale, it was really slow, and then the episode's climax was....nothing. We knew someone was going to die, so the payoff isn't even the shock of someone dying. Like Clearin said, they've screwed themselves over by completely diminishing what could have been a really impactful finale.
Also, it might just be me (and maybe he's like this in the comics, I haven't reached that point yet), but Negan's dialogue could have been handled a lot better. Some of the things he said just didn't really fit the imposing villain character ('it's gonna be pee-pee pants city real soon' and 'this is Lucille, she is awesome' are just two examples that didn't feel right to me).
Also also, was it explained how the Saviours knew that the group would be on the move, since the first roadblock seemingly waited for them to arrive without knowing whether they'd even arrive in the first place?
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