The reason for the pets, The Governor, Woodbury, Andrea and Merle catching up

I love the development of Michonne's character. The fact that she didn't say much just shows how untrusting and suspicious she is of the Governor and his group. Everything looked really authentic; like the prison it looks like it was lifted straight from the Graphic Novel. I thought it was interesting how Merle seemed so nice, a tad strange. The Governor's decision with the soldiers just goes to show how evil he really is; its obvious that he'd killed the pilot after he told them where the soldiers were, so he couldn't bring them back. The ending scene was fantastic, I mean they captured the feel and atmosphere of the situation perfectly and it looks exactly like the original scene.

The episode does develop the Governor quite a lot, makes him look all nice an sweet first half, then comes the scene where he kills the soldier, and then that creepy ending. I have never read the comics so no idea what's with the heads, but I don't want to get spoiled, so I'll just wait to find out.

Shane will surely be missed.

To beat a psychopath, you need one just as crazy. I hope Rick doesn't try to befriend this idiot in future episodes because it will be the ruin for his entire group. It should be interesting to see how Rick interacts with the governor.

I see Andrea and Daryl jumping ship and joining the governor. I see it because Andrea is already interested in the governor as far as affection is concerned. As for Daryl, he isn't going to ignore Meryl in the beginning . Rick's group is going to have trouble keeping alive for sure. T'dog will have to step up to the late.

Also, I noticed one thing in the town that they are staying in. There are a loooooooooooooooooooot of females in there. I can see why they accepted the two women easily. They killed off the soldier men without second thought. There are some elderly males, but I don't see any others besides the guards. I think I am seeing the Governor trying to start a whole new population with him being in charge. It is fishy.

I also found it odd how they kept asking the dark lady about how she was able to keep her zombies from attacking. She knows something that she isn't willing to give up and rightfully so.

I don't think Shane will be missed in the group, Rick is doing a way better job at leading the group than Shane would. Rick is not an idiot, Rick will not trust people that easily anymore, and I really do not see him befriending the governor at all. I bet there will be a lot of tension between the two when they meet. After all that usually happens when two alpha males confront each other, just look at Shane and Rick. I disagree I do not see Daryl jumping ship, and once Andre finds out the true colors of the Governor she will switch right back to Rick's group, and I can definitely see Rick's group taking in Michone as well. Not all may be well for Rick's group but one thing they do have is that Rick is smart and sometimes that is exactly what you need to defeat someone like the Governor, since obviously the Governor does have more weapons, big bodies and so on.

Let's not forget Daryl has been with Rick for over eight months already, I'm very sure he has grown sentiments towards everyone in the group, yeah Merle is his brother, but look at his vision of Merle back in season 2, it was more of a negative way than positive way.

I also don't think Merle is as big a monster as everyone thinks him to be, well he is a complete dickhead but he is an honest guy and he did say Andrea's sister was a good kid. There will most likely only be two people that Merle will have an issue with and that's Rick and T-Dog, and I can see him having issues with his brother now as well since his brother has changed. BUT I do think that somehow those issues will be resolved and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Merle actually ended up helping Rick's group for Daryl rather than Daryl help the Governor for Merle.

Merle seemed to enjoy himself killing the zombies, but he did not seem to enjoy himself killing the soldiers. And from that reaction leads me to believe he isn't going to stick with the Governor forever.

The governor probably has most women because he doesn't want to be challenged, he wants as you said to repopulate and be in charge, be a messiah.

Also Rick is a better match to beat the Governor over Shane. Shane isn't exactly a psychopath he was just fueled with rage and acting carelessly, to beat someone like the Governor you need someone that has the ability to remain calm and think, and someone smart. I'm not saying Shane was stupid but I do believe Rick is smarter. So I feel as Rick stands a better chance against the Governor than Shane does.

Not making sure if Andrew was dead

The person messing with them this Sunday is Oscar, which I doubt

The emotion on it was tremendous. I do have to say if Rick had killed off Andrew a lot could have been different, but this episode was truly intense and the emotion Rick shows when he finds out Laurie is dead, holy *****.

Just when we were saying T-Dog was getting more action he dies, god damn.
Good way he went out though he was a brave dude indeed, may we pray for this fictional character.

What happened to Carol? I missed seeing anything just at the end there they said they lost her like she'd died, guess they would assume but no idea if she died or not.


Now it's going to be interesting seeing a change in both Rick and Carl, preview shows that Rick might be going way over the edge.

How the heck did that guy survive? When Rick walked away from that place he was screaming as if he was being ripped apart :S


They're going to have a damn hard job keeping that baby alive that's for sure seems like their only hope will be The Governor...

I was sobbing so much. Anyone who hates Lori should just stop. She sacrificed herself for the baby and did all she could to make sure the baby had a life. Right there is a good mother. Rick was upset because he knew he lost a good woman. She was the only woman on the show that I actually liked. She owned up to her mistakes and did what she had to to make sure her baby got a chance in life.

Rick, unfortunately, waited too long to show her some affection.

R.I.P Lori. You were the best female on the show. Now I have to find another one who is cool.

Shane would have killed everybody and the black guy that screwed the whole group over. You still think Rick is the best leader?

Like you said Shane would have killed all the prisoners, and two of them did nothing to deserve getting killed, one of them even saved Rick's life. I'm pretty sure Rick thought the other guy was dead for sure. I will give that one mistake to Rick he should have just killed the guy himself instead of letting the Zombies have him, but that gives no excuse to the other guy to even take it out on everybody like that. Yes I still think Rick was the best leader and no there is a woman who is much much bettter than Lori in the show, her name is Michone.

Yeah Lori died heroic, but other than that she in my opinion she was in the bottom of the list in women. and I cannot blame Rick for feeling hurt the way she treated him in the season 2 finale.

Rick made the wrong call not making sure the other guy was dead, but killing all the prisoners would have been flat out wrong as two of them proved themselves worthy. The last thing I'd want in an apocalypse its to start killing all the living.

Rick made one wrong call and unfortunately it came back to bite him in the *****, and it will probably change him forever.

Also going back to season 2, if Shane hadn't killed Otis they would have found Sophia much sooner. And I really think him and Otis could have made it out of there alive, both of them, all the zombies were behind them and Zombies are slow, even with a hurt leg Shane could have been faster.

You are bringing up mistakes that Shane had to do in order to save Carl's life. If he didn't shoot Otis, both of them would have died and so would Carl. Rick would have failed for sure if he had to go get the medicine to save Carl's life.

It was shane that used his brash decision that made them find the little girl. He was the one who wanted to leave the farm in the first place.

Shane's kind of leadership is needed in this harsh environment. Yeah, the two prisoner's ended up saving Rick. HOwever, it was that one prisoner who put them at risk in the first place. Shane would have made sure all of them were dead without second thoughts. Even daryl would have made a better choice.

How is Lori like the worst of the women? Most of the women are sluts who sleep with a guy on the first day. Lori at least waited some months. I mean the one with Glenn continues sleeping him even though she saw another woman become pregnant. To me, that is careless thinking.

Lori paid for her mistakes and she owned up to them. She didn't blame anyone else, but herself. To me, that puts her far above any of the other women.

Andrea wanted to kill herself, and she is already hitting on the governor. I can actually see her starting trouble amongst everyone.

The best woman right now is the dark lady. She actually knows wasup.

The zombies were nowhere near Otis and Shane he shot him out of cowardice. In pretty sure they could have both gotten out of there alive, had Rick gone instead of Shane I can see the two of them making. Shane didn't do anything for the group he only did it for Lori that was it, he couldn't care less if everyone else would die, he wanted to kill Rick and threatened Dale.

Every women sleeping with a guy on first day? That's not true at all, Carol hasn't slept with anyone since her husband. Meghan was single and with Glenn, and it wasn't in the first day. Andrea is well Andrea. Lori hadn't even been two months since Rick was on a comma and there she was sleeping with his best friend for all we know its Shane's kid, yeah all the other women are such slits compared to Lori.

And since when its justified killing all the prisoners? Killing people that don't deserve to die? That's just flat out messed up. The one mistake I give Rick is not being sure that guy was dead, but everyone thought he was dead. Carol herself said Shane wouldn't have gotten them as far as Rick did. For eight months Rick got them from place to place without anyone dying. Regardless of what anyone will do there will always be something that people will die from, it's the apocalypse Zombies are everywhere. Tdogg doesn't die there's maybe he dies somewhere else. Shane acted out of rage and for one singular person.

And I really don't think Daryl is the type to kill everyone either.

Yes Rick screwed up on something but to act like Shane was such a better leader is ridiculous

I don't think Otis and Shane would have got out of that situation if he didn't do what he did. There were walkers all around the place. It was Otis in the first place that shot Carl even though it was accidental.

You say Shane doesn't care about anyone, yet he was the one who taught Andrea and some how to counter their fears. He had them learn to shoot down the walkers. He was also the one who beat up Carol's abusive husband. He was the one that tried to save Rick from the hospital and kept him closed in so that Rick wasn't eaten. He was a good leader despite being rash and head on.

Both Rick and Shane have their weakness and strengths. However, if it comes down to survival I think Shane knows what needs to be done. The careless mistakes by Rick is what caused them to lose two group members or more.

They lost a big time member in Shane, and it is showing. I have a feeling the governor is going to be even worse than you make Shane out to be.

To say that Rick is such a better leader than Shane, is also ridiculous. Shane had them living pretty well before Rick showed up. Shane also didn't go around making enemies. The enemies he came across he took them out.

Oh and not to mention Rick has made a couple of enemies with Merel. I can't imagine what will happen when Daryl meets up with his brother again.