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Mar 19 2015, 04:19 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle What a great episode!
@Steve - He saw the group brutalise the Hunters. From Gabriel's perspective, they were completely at Rick's mercy, yet Rick didn't even give letting them live a second thought. Rick was justified in the sense of what the world is now, but that doesn't mesh well with Gabriel's religious view on the situation.
Any predictions for next episode? I think Rick's going to deal with Pete, and something's going to happen at the end. Something huge, just to prepare for the final episode (which is 90 minutes instead of 60.)
Does he have a right to call them bad people when he sat there and didn't let his flock in the church? He's a priest no less he should have been obligated to help but gave in to fear. I was waiting for him to stir up crap thought he'd have a sinister agenda but I guess this is the negativity he'll bring.
Spoiler: click to toggle He confessed his sin and felt immense remorse for what he did, but Rick's group didn't. From Gabriel's perspective, that's wrong and, while he still did something morally reprehensible, he doesn't see the group as people who would strive to make up for what they did.
Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, but that still doesn't apply at all to what he was saying about them. To summarize, he was basically telling her that they would betray Alexandria if it benefited them because they only looked out for themselves, which isn't true at all. Gabriel really had no justification for saying most of that stuff. The only "bad" thing they'd done around him was killing the cannibal group who were obviously completely corrupt and had directly harmed their group.
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Mar 20 2015, 04:21 AM
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah I have to call BS on him being able to judge the group so quick he's still an outsider he has no real role or use how could he possibly know them? Not to mention he knows nothing of their history and how hard Rick especially worked towards them never killing people.
He's trying to save his own skin he doesn't know them.
Nor does he know how corrupt Alexandria is.
Still haven't found out what the W on that zombies head was for, awful lot like the A people get on their hands.
Seems a lot like some sorta punishment, they brand a walker who lived in Alexandria and don't "kill" them leaving them to suffer undead...err, life.
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Mar 20 2015, 09:25 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah I have to call BS on him being able to judge the group so quick he's still an outsider he has no real role or use how could he possibly know them? Not to mention he knows nothing of their history and how hard Rick especially worked towards them never killing people.
He's trying to save his own skin he doesn't know them.
Nor does he know how corrupt Alexandria is.
Still haven't found out what the W on that zombies head was for, awful lot like the A people get on their hands.
Seems a lot like some sorta punishment, they brand a walker who lived in Alexandria and don't "kill" them leaving them to suffer undead...err, life.
Spoiler: click to toggle Think of it from Gabriel's perspective, though. He's seen these people brutally murder individuals who were completely at their mercy, then he saw them imprison Aaron and treat him like total ****. There's a good reason behind that but, again, the logic and reasoning of the New World doesn't mesh well at all with Gabriel's religious views, and now that he's found a place where people are good and 'normal', he doesn't want Rick's group to change that.
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Mar 20 2015, 03:37 PM
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I still don't see how he can put himself on a higher plane than them though, does he really think God will forgive him for abandoning his flock? That suggests maybe 20 people or so he let die because of his own cowardice.
We've seen that the group doesn't seem to believe this is the work of a God so should he not, ad a priest, be trying to make them have some faith? Instead of chickening out to take the easy life again.
Dudes a coward is all as far as I'm concerned, he's not doing what's right he's saving his own skin. Ripping that Bible up shows his faith is wavering too so there's no way he can legitimately be judging them for their crimes he's not doing it for God.
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Mar 22 2015, 09:50 PM
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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Spoiler: click to toggle Father Gabriel really has no right to say anything, even though I think he only did it because he's afraid of Rick's group. Rick lately to me has turned into an a**. Granted that doctor guy is a scumbag, but Rick is breaking his own code if he's planning on killing him. Rick kills because he has to in order to protect himself, but he's planning on outright murdering the guy for beating around his kids; which has nothing to do with Rick on a personal level. Obviously with that kiss he placed on what's-her-face, it's obvious what else Rick has in mind when he says he's going to kill the guy. At this point, Rick is really no better than Shane on a moral level.
Kinda late in the game, but what did all you think about Eugene growing a pair and saving Tara? Regardless of what people think, I like Eugene. I find his character weirdly humorous, which we don't get a whole lot of in the series at this point.
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The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.
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Mar 22 2015, 10:00 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle I feel the same about Eugene. I was proud of him when he stepped up to save Tara and also when he stood up to that d*** Nicholas or w/e the f*** his name is.
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Mar 22 2015, 10:33 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle I feel the same about Eugene. I was proud of him when he stepped up to save Tara and also when he stood up to that d*** Nicholas or w/e the f*** his name is.
Spoiler: click to toggle I'm surprised Glenn brought him back. I would've left the guy to rot. Two people died because if his stupidity. Granted he's afraid, but that type of behavior can be dangerous to those around him.
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Mar 22 2015, 10:43 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle I was legit so mad at that guy, especially when they were stuck in the revolving doors.
Anyway, now that Gabriel has stabbed the group in the back, hopefully Glenn keeping the sonuvabitch alive will work in their favour, especially since that woman's son is dead. I can't remember her name
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Mar 23 2015, 06:27 PM
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I just watched last night's episode
Spoiler: click to toggle I can't tell what the f*** is going on, lol. Is there some sort of conspiracy s***??? All those walkers with 'W' on their foreheads??
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Mar 24 2015, 01:10 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle What a great episode!
@Steve - He saw the group brutalise the Hunters. From Gabriel's perspective, they were completely at Rick's mercy, yet Rick didn't even give letting them live a second thought. Rick was justified in the sense of what the world is now, but that doesn't mesh well with Gabriel's religious view on the situation.
Any predictions for next episode? I think Rick's going to deal with Pete, and something's going to happen at the end. Something huge, just to prepare for the final episode (which is 90 minutes instead of 60.)
Does he have a right to call them bad people when he sat there and didn't let his flock in the church? He's a priest no less he should have been obligated to help but gave in to fear. I was waiting for him to stir up crap thought he'd have a sinister agenda but I guess this is the negativity he'll bring.
Spoiler: click to toggle He confessed his sin and felt immense remorse for what he did, but Rick's group didn't. From Gabriel's perspective, that's wrong and, while he still did something morally reprehensible, he doesn't see the group as people who would strive to make up for what they did.
Spoiler: click to toggle I'm pretty sure the point of that scene was him projecting his guilt for what he did onto the group. If you replace every time he said "they" or "them" with "I" it'll make more sense.
Latest episode was my favorite from this season.
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Mar 24 2015, 01:45 AM
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- Mar 16 2015, 10:04 PM
Spoiler: click to toggle What a great episode!
@Steve - He saw the group brutalise the Hunters. From Gabriel's perspective, they were completely at Rick's mercy, yet Rick didn't even give letting them live a second thought. Rick was justified in the sense of what the world is now, but that doesn't mesh well with Gabriel's religious view on the situation.
Any predictions for next episode? I think Rick's going to deal with Pete, and something's going to happen at the end. Something huge, just to prepare for the final episode (which is 90 minutes instead of 60.)
Does he have a right to call them bad people when he sat there and didn't let his flock in the church? He's a priest no less he should have been obligated to help but gave in to fear. I was waiting for him to stir up crap thought he'd have a sinister agenda but I guess this is the negativity he'll bring.
Spoiler: click to toggle He confessed his sin and felt immense remorse for what he did, but Rick's group didn't. From Gabriel's perspective, that's wrong and, while he still did something morally reprehensible, he doesn't see the group as people who would strive to make up for what they did.
Spoiler: click to toggle I'm pretty sure the point of that scene was him projecting his guilt for what he did onto the group. If you replace every time he said "they" or "them" with "I" it'll make more sense.
Latest episode was my favorite from this season.
Spoiler: click to toggle I think it's a bit of both. You can see that he's talking about himself in some parts, like when he talked about the group possibly doing terrible things because they were afraid, but then in other parts, you can see that he's talking about the others. The 'false light' bit is about himself and the group; he's a false light because he's committed a terrible sin, and probably doesn't see himself as worthy of being a Priest, but then the others are also 'false lights', because they brought with them the idea that due to their survival skills and abilities, they could improve the community and ensure that it survives and flourishes.
It's really interesting to see how he feels about the group; it's obvious that he feels distanced from it, as he condemns them, but at the same time, like you said, a lot of his speech was condemning himself as well. So, he doesn't want to be part of Rick's group because of the terrible things that they've done, but at the same time, he acknowledges that he's done a terrible thing and he's quite similar to them. Perhaps now that they're in a 'safe' community where it doesn't seem like he'll be put in a situation where he's forced to do what he did again, he feels more comfortable in back-stabbing the group, as they definitely pose the most danger to Alexandria out of the two of them.
Yeah, this episode was outstanding.
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Mar 24 2015, 08:35 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Seriously how do the people who make this show think hearing works? Does that girl Carl was with have a surround sound voice or some s***? Or is Carl just broken?
I guess the W's might be from exiled people, to prove Rick's point about how the abusive husband would just come back and make the place vulnerable.
Who the heck looks after Judith right now btw?
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Mar 24 2015, 08:42 PM
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actually a spoiler From what I heard the W's are from the coming antagonist
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Mar 31 2015, 03:34 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Pretty great finale.
My girlfriend said she accidentally read a spoiler about people who die but wouldn't tell m, she read that Glenn and Darryl die so I was sitting just waiting for either of them to die.
How the f*** did Glenn survive though? C'mon with the plot armour don't chuck two zombies on him when he's half dead and just somehow have him survive off screen...
That ending was great, wonder what Morgan is going to do for Rick surely he'll stick around to calm him down? If someone who lost their way as much as Morgan can come back he'll help Rick...
Also wtf Morgan is a staff wielding badass? Who knew.
These W guys seem f***ed up. Love it.
HOWEVER I hope we don't go another half a season of them living in semi-paradise for it to be taken away again. They need to be attacked, for sure but it needs to be salvageable there is no way any of them could realistically handle that much crap they'd all break down.
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Mar 31 2015, 09:02 PM
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It truly was a Shawshank redemption
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Spoiler: click to toggle I'm just hoping to God they don't do what they did with the Terminus villains and have the season finale end with "s***'s gonna go down with these new villains" only to have it finished with in 2 episodes.
Pretty good season. I thought they did a really great job at breaking down the how the continuing apocalypse has affected the mental state of each member of the group, keeping things interesting despite not really having a major villain. They also seemed to approach episodes differently production-wise, at least it seemed to me, with different ways of shooting, more music etc, which made things different.
As always with Walking Dead, I seem to find myself looking forward to the next episode/season, rather than appreciating the current one, and I'm not sure whether that's a praise or a criticism.
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