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God damn this show...
Spoiler: click to toggle That was like the most pathetic bite so far why do they just decide people are deaf all of a sudden?
Did he really need to get bit to explain that domino effect? What a waste.
Not sure if he dies still watching but it doesn't look good anyway and what good will he do with one arm...
Not a bad mid season premiere other than that but holy s*** that scene was tiring to watch.
Alright so he does die.
Which makes it even more idiotic because why the hell didn't they cauterize his arm there? Should have been failry obvious letting him lose blood for like 20 minutes or more would kill him.
Where were they even trying to go? That place was quiet enough...
Such a stupid death.
Other than that seems like a decent half series coming up, sounds like there's a lot of struggle to survive coming their way they've never had much problem getting food or water really.
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Feb 9 2015, 11:02 PM
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- Feb 9 2015, 10:34 PM
God damn this show... Spoiler: click to toggle That was like the most pathetic bite so far why do they just decide people are deaf all of a sudden?
Did he really need to get bit to explain that domino effect? What a waste.
Not sure if he dies still watching but it doesn't look good anyway and what good will he do with one arm...
Not a bad mid season premiere other than that but holy s*** that scene was tiring to watch.
Alright so he does die.
Which makes it even more idiotic because why the hell didn't they cauterize his arm there? Should have been failry obvious letting him lose blood for like 20 minutes or more would kill him.
Where were they even trying to go? That place was quiet enough...
Such a stupid death. Other than that seems like a decent half series coming up, sounds like there's a lot of struggle to survive coming their way they've never had much problem getting food or water really.
Spoiler: click to toggle What were they gonna cauterize it with? Didn't look like they had anything they could do that with. You could criticise 'em for that, but it was too late anyway; two bites and all that blood loss had killed him already.
He got bit because he's a sentimental fool. He's one of the good, nice guys, so he's affected by all of this stuff; Rick or Daryl would've been alert and would've scanned the house while Noah was looking at his mother's body, but Tyreese stayed there and watched because he's not geared towards survival like the others are; that ended up killing him.
The hallucinations were amazing, gotta say. Loved seeing Ty face his demons and fight against what he'd done, really powerful.
R.I.P Tyreese.
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That was a boring episode.
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God damn this show... Spoiler: click to toggle That was like the most pathetic bite so far why do they just decide people are deaf all of a sudden?
Did he really need to get bit to explain that domino effect? What a waste.
Not sure if he dies still watching but it doesn't look good anyway and what good will he do with one arm...
Not a bad mid season premiere other than that but holy s*** that scene was tiring to watch.
Alright so he does die.
Which makes it even more idiotic because why the hell didn't they cauterize his arm there? Should have been failry obvious letting him lose blood for like 20 minutes or more would kill him.
Where were they even trying to go? That place was quiet enough...
Such a stupid death. Other than that seems like a decent half series coming up, sounds like there's a lot of struggle to survive coming their way they've never had much problem getting food or water really.
Spoiler: click to toggle What were they gonna cauterize it with? Didn't look like they had anything they could do that with. You could criticise 'em for that, but it was too late anyway; two bites and all that blood loss had killed him already.
He got bit because he's a sentimental fool. He's one of the good, nice guys, so he's affected by all of this stuff; Rick or Daryl would've been alert and would've scanned the house while Noah was looking at his mother's body, but Tyreese stayed there and watched because he's not geared towards survival like the others are; that ended up killing him.
The hallucinations were amazing, gotta say. Loved seeing Ty face his demons and fight against what he'd done, really powerful.
R.I.P Tyreese.
Spoiler: click to toggle So there's no way there'd be a lighter or anything in that house? They didn't even attempt to look it's Noah's house he should know where some flammable stuff is likely to be.
Checking is more logical than trying to drive miles without even making a tourniquet on a heavily bleeding dude.
It would have been fine if they cauterized it etc and he still died but not that being sentimental doesn't make you go deaf zombies are stupid creatures that trudge along erratically but when the plot calls for it they're stealthy ninja's...
I wish they'd already established some other types of zombies like smarter ones that utilize stealth tactics so we wouldn't have to put up with crappy writing like this.
The Beth scare was the worst when that zombie came at her in the forest...with all the leaves and s*** that would have made a butt ton of noise as it shambled towards her.
Anyway as for the episode the start felt really rushed. Why was the group split up for one thing? And why weren't Beth and Glenn together?
She just lost her sister and she lets him go away? Even though she was fairly recently going nuts trying to find him.
I guess zombies steal that power from the Cybermen.
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Feb 10 2015, 10:35 AM
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God damn this show... Spoiler: click to toggle That was like the most pathetic bite so far why do they just decide people are deaf all of a sudden?
Did he really need to get bit to explain that domino effect? What a waste.
Not sure if he dies still watching but it doesn't look good anyway and what good will he do with one arm...
Not a bad mid season premiere other than that but holy s*** that scene was tiring to watch.
Alright so he does die.
Which makes it even more idiotic because why the hell didn't they cauterize his arm there? Should have been failry obvious letting him lose blood for like 20 minutes or more would kill him.
Where were they even trying to go? That place was quiet enough...
Such a stupid death. Other than that seems like a decent half series coming up, sounds like there's a lot of struggle to survive coming their way they've never had much problem getting food or water really.
Spoiler: click to toggle What were they gonna cauterize it with? Didn't look like they had anything they could do that with. You could criticise 'em for that, but it was too late anyway; two bites and all that blood loss had killed him already.
He got bit because he's a sentimental fool. He's one of the good, nice guys, so he's affected by all of this stuff; Rick or Daryl would've been alert and would've scanned the house while Noah was looking at his mother's body, but Tyreese stayed there and watched because he's not geared towards survival like the others are; that ended up killing him.
The hallucinations were amazing, gotta say. Loved seeing Ty face his demons and fight against what he'd done, really powerful.
R.I.P Tyreese.
Spoiler: click to toggle So there's no way there'd be a lighter or anything in that house? They didn't even attempt to look it's Noah's house he should know where some flammable stuff is likely to be.
Checking is more logical than trying to drive miles without even making a tourniquet on a heavily bleeding dude.
It would have been fine if they cauterized it etc and he still died but not that being sentimental doesn't make you go deaf zombies are stupid creatures that trudge along erratically but when the plot calls for it they're stealthy ninja's...
I wish they'd already established some other types of zombies like smarter ones that utilize stealth tactics so we wouldn't have to put up with crappy writing like this.
The Beth scare was the worst when that zombie came at her in the forest...with all the leaves and s*** that would have made a butt ton of noise as it shambled towards her.
Anyway as for the episode the start felt really rushed. Why was the group split up for one thing? And why weren't Beth and Glenn together?
She just lost her sister and she lets him go away? Even though she was fairly recently going nuts trying to find him. I guess zombies steal that power from the Cybermen. Pelador will get the reference
Spoiler: click to toggle Cauterising a wound when you're not in a sterile emvironment is pretty much asking for a death wish. Nobody there had any idea what to do or how they'd properly treast the wound when it was done. Carol had the most medical training out of all of them, so she was their best bet. Why try to do it themselves when they either screw it up or couldn't provide the medical assistance post-op? The others were 10 miles away, so they figured that taking him there was still a viable option. They were wrong, but it was better than them trying a complicated, precise medical procedure themselves.
Tyreese was getting worked up about Noah's past; who he was and what he'd lost. You're telling me you've never gone into your own world and been oblivious to what's happening around you? It's pretty common.
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Spoiler: click to toggle I liked that episode. As Drew said, seeing Tyreese face his inner demons, etc., was pretty powerful -- not just regarding his decisions, but also with death in general, since obviously everyone's afraid of dying otherwise they wouldn't be trying to survive in the first place. That's how I took all those comments about how everything was going to be okay or whatever. I don't follow the comics and I have no idea what the director's and wrtiers' intents are, but to me that's what the show's mostly been about, with a post-apocalyptic backdrop, and not necessarily just about zombies and action and s***. - Quote:
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Anyway as for the episode the start felt really rushed. Why was the group split up for one thing? And why weren't Beth and Glenn together?
She just lost her sister and she lets him go away? Even though she was fairly recently going nuts trying to find him.
I thought that part was explained. Noah had told Rick about Beth wanting Noah to go back to that place under the assumption that it was still safe, etc., and that it could also be a potential place for everyone to stay in. I guess they just split up into two groups in case they had another Terminus-esque experience.
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Spoiler: click to toggle To have the best chances it needs a sterile environment yeah but they're not gonna have much luck with that in a zombie apocalypse where was the sterile environment for Hershel? It's a desperate situation where they need to do whatever they can no matter the risks and have done before. That still doesn't excuse not making any kind of tourniquet, nobody had a belt or a shirt they could rip up in the car at least? Being oblivious to what's around you shouldn't be very common when you've been surviving day to day in fear of being bitten by a zombie and/or killed it was a terrible way to have him killed. Would have been better if he turned round and struggled to decide if he should "kill" the child zombie and then that other one grabbed him from under the bed or something. Took me two seconds to think of that why couldn't actual writers? The hallucinations and stuff were cool and different but no reason for such a stupid death just to showcase them. - Quote:
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I thought that part was explained.
Noah had told Rick about Beth wanting Noah to go back to that place under the assumption that it was still safe, etc., and that it could also be a potential place for everyone to stay in. I guess they just split up into two groups in case they had another Terminus-esque experience.
Yeah but Maggie and Glenn, you'd think she'd need the emotional support after losing the last of her family but she just lets Glenn go off and potentially get killed in the same day... And Daryl, would have thought he'd go off to be alone for a while he and Beth were close. |
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Spoiler: click to toggle To have the best chances it needs a sterile environment yeah but they're not gonna have much luck with that in a zombie apocalypse where was the sterile environment for Hershel? It's a desperate situation where they need to do whatever they can no matter the risks and have done before. That still doesn't excuse not making any kind of tourniquet, nobody had a belt or a shirt they could rip up in the car at least? Being oblivious to what's around you shouldn't be very common when you've been surviving day to day in fear of being bitten by a zombie and/or killed it was a terrible way to have him killed. Would have been better if he turned round and struggled to decide if he should "kill" the child zombie and then that other one grabbed him from under the bed or something. Took me two seconds to think of that why couldn't actual writers? The hallucinations and stuff were cool and different but no reason for such a stupid death just to showcase them. - Quote:
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I thought that part was explained.
Noah had told Rick about Beth wanting Noah to go back to that place under the assumption that it was still safe, etc., and that it could also be a potential place for everyone to stay in. I guess they just split up into two groups in case they had another Terminus-esque experience.
Yeah but Maggie and Glenn, you'd think she'd need the emotional support after losing the last of her family but she just lets Glenn go off and potentially get killed in the same day... And Daryl, would have thought he'd go off to be alone for a while he and Beth were close.
Spoiler: click to toggle Guess who they took Hershel to? Carol, who was the only person who had had enough medical training to know how to go about treating it. The environment there was as sterile as it was going to get and, most importantly, someone who knew what they were doing. They didn't have the supplies at that time to attempt to cauterise Tyreese's wound.
Tyreese getting distracted is just another reminder that good, sentimental people aren't able to survive in this new world. Dale was, and he died. Hershel was, and he died. Tyreese was able to survive that long because he wasn't on the road long enough to truly adapt to the way the world was.
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Spoiler: click to toggle To have the best chances it needs a sterile environment yeah but they're not gonna have much luck with that in a zombie apocalypse where was the sterile environment for Hershel? It's a desperate situation where they need to do whatever they can no matter the risks and have done before. That still doesn't excuse not making any kind of tourniquet, nobody had a belt or a shirt they could rip up in the car at least? Being oblivious to what's around you shouldn't be very common when you've been surviving day to day in fear of being bitten by a zombie and/or killed it was a terrible way to have him killed. Would have been better if he turned round and struggled to decide if he should "kill" the child zombie and then that other one grabbed him from under the bed or something. Took me two seconds to think of that why couldn't actual writers? The hallucinations and stuff were cool and different but no reason for such a stupid death just to showcase them. - Quote:
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I thought that part was explained.
Noah had told Rick about Beth wanting Noah to go back to that place under the assumption that it was still safe, etc., and that it could also be a potential place for everyone to stay in. I guess they just split up into two groups in case they had another Terminus-esque experience.
Yeah but Maggie and Glenn, you'd think she'd need the emotional support after losing the last of her family but she just lets Glenn go off and potentially get killed in the same day... And Daryl, would have thought he'd go off to be alone for a while he and Beth were close.
Spoiler: click to toggle Guess who they took Hershel to? Carol, who was the only person who had had enough medical training to know how to go about treating it. The environment there was as sterile as it was going to get and, most importantly, someone who knew what they were doing. They didn't have the supplies at that time to attempt to cauterise Tyreese's wound.
Tyreese getting distracted is just another reminder that good, sentimental people aren't able to survive in this new world. Dale was, and he died. Hershel was, and he died. Tyreese was able to survive that long because he wasn't on the road long enough to truly adapt to the way the world was.
Spoiler: click to toggle But the sentimental part could just have easily been shown by what I said with him struggling to cave a child's head in.
Would have made for a much more dramatic scene too, sad music and stuff at the dead boy and then Tyresse gets bit instead of that nonsense.
It's nothing to do with sentimentality it's crappy writing so many characters have went deaf all of a sudden for either a cheap scare or an even cheaper death.
And still they didn't even try a tourniquet which is pretty much essential to not bleed out from a wound like that, why was it not obvious he'd have bled out way before getting to Carol? They're not medical professionals yeah but that's still pretty basic.
Merle managed to saw his own hand off, fight off a horde of zombies and fix himself up a group of people who've experienced having to amputate limbs and deal with injuries in general should have had some idea what to do.
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Spoiler: click to toggle To have the best chances it needs a sterile environment yeah but they're not gonna have much luck with that in a zombie apocalypse where was the sterile environment for Hershel? It's a desperate situation where they need to do whatever they can no matter the risks and have done before. That still doesn't excuse not making any kind of tourniquet, nobody had a belt or a shirt they could rip up in the car at least? Being oblivious to what's around you shouldn't be very common when you've been surviving day to day in fear of being bitten by a zombie and/or killed it was a terrible way to have him killed. Would have been better if he turned round and struggled to decide if he should "kill" the child zombie and then that other one grabbed him from under the bed or something. Took me two seconds to think of that why couldn't actual writers? The hallucinations and stuff were cool and different but no reason for such a stupid death just to showcase them. - Quote:
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I thought that part was explained.
Noah had told Rick about Beth wanting Noah to go back to that place under the assumption that it was still safe, etc., and that it could also be a potential place for everyone to stay in. I guess they just split up into two groups in case they had another Terminus-esque experience.
Yeah but Maggie and Glenn, you'd think she'd need the emotional support after losing the last of her family but she just lets Glenn go off and potentially get killed in the same day... And Daryl, would have thought he'd go off to be alone for a while he and Beth were close.
Spoiler: click to toggle Guess who they took Hershel to? Carol, who was the only person who had had enough medical training to know how to go about treating it. The environment there was as sterile as it was going to get and, most importantly, someone who knew what they were doing. They didn't have the supplies at that time to attempt to cauterise Tyreese's wound.
Tyreese getting distracted is just another reminder that good, sentimental people aren't able to survive in this new world. Dale was, and he died. Hershel was, and he died. Tyreese was able to survive that long because he wasn't on the road long enough to truly adapt to the way the world was.
Spoiler: click to toggle But the sentimental part could just have easily been shown by what I said with him struggling to cave a child's head in.
Would have made for a much more dramatic scene too, sad music and stuff at the dead boy and then Tyresse gets bit instead of that nonsense.
It's nothing to do with sentimentality it's crappy writing so many characters have went deaf all of a sudden for either a cheap scare or an even cheaper death.
And still they didn't even try a tourniquet which is pretty much essential to not bleed out from a wound like that, why was it not obvious he'd have bled out way before getting to Carol? They're not medical professionals yeah but that's still pretty basic.
Merle managed to saw his own hand off, fight off a horde of zombies and fix himself up a group of people who've experienced having to amputate limbs and deal with injuries in general should have had some idea what to do.
Spoiler: click to toggle We already had a scene dealing with the trouble child walkers cause, so seeing that again so soon would be a little too boring, at least to me.
It's not crappy writing; Tyreese has made a point that he's really resistant to adapting to this world. Through the entirety of Season 4, we get scenes where he's having too much trouble going on runs and even killing the walkers at the fence in the Prison. He's an 'old world' person, and we've seen time and again that they don't have what it takes to survive now. Tyreese got lost in his thoughts and he paid for it, just showing that he's not survival-minded like the others are.
On your point with the tourniquet, I agree, but them being in such a shocking, stressful situation may have caused a lapse in judgement. Heck, they might not have even known what a tourniquet is, I didn't. With Merle, he didn't have any other choice, it was really risky, and we know that he got taken in by the Governor after he escaped from the Governor and, given the abundance of supplies they were shown to have 9 months after the Apocalypse started, it's pretty safe to say that they'd have even more there just 1 month after, certainly enough to adequately treat Merle and nurse him back to health.
Rick and the others thought they could take a chance and bring Tyreese back to the others to cauterise his wound, but they didn't know that he was already going to die by the time they got to him. They had a lapse in judgement, yeah, but you can't expect them to be perfect, especially in that situation where they had no-one medically experienced to guide them on anything.
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Spoiler: click to toggle I didn't find the bite/death pathetic at all. It's sown in well with the story. But the episode was still boring. Meh.
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Yeah but Maggie and Glenn, you'd think she'd need the emotional support after losing the last of her family but she just lets Glenn go off and potentially get killed in the same day...
And Daryl, would have thought he'd go off to be alone for a while he and Beth were close.
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Not done watching yet but
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They all looked so happy eating that dog meat...
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They've been eating worms and bugs for days. I think anyone would be happy for some dog meat.
That ending was a bit Deus Ex Machina.
Apart from that I quite liked it. It's cool to see them in dirty clothes and having to walk because most cars are too jacked up now. It's been a bit too easy before now. Like come on, my playstation controller starts to break down after a few months of use. A complex machine like a car would be even worse without regular maintenance. It looks as though they are getting to the point where fuel goes past its used by date. Which would be a cool thing to include.
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I know right.
I mean I wouldn't want to eat a dog but I'd at least be saying crap like "well, never thought I'd be sitting next to a road eating dog, it's actually good!" or something to lighten the mood.
Why did they not let Eugene drink the water? He just recently screwed them over and has made a lot of people die they should be shoving it down his throat to check for poison.
That guy at the end was way too nice far to obvious he'll have some agenda, ridiculously clean and healthy looking too wonder how much stuff his group has they must have monopolized every resource in the area.
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Definitely not a succubus, fear not
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4:41 PM Jul 13