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Mihawk
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Nov 26 2014, 10:11 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Meh, unrealistic to me. I see the argument for Drew's side at least.
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Nov 27 2014, 12:45 PM
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- Nov 25 2014, 02:46 PM
Spoiler: click to toggle Nah, it's quite obvious that they spent quite a while going over what was happening with Sasha. Having somebody named Bob there when she's so vulnerable and weak is a great vehicle for development. It doesn't really matter if it's inconvenient; there's bound to be loads of people in Atlanta with the same name. It's a realistic possibility, and that's all that matters.
I dunno, the way he was speaking to Rick made it seem like he wasn't actually an officer. Well, that or he didn't see himself as a good one. It was in the heat of the moment; he obviously planned to knock her out and escape. The only time he'd be able to do that was when she was by the window, as she'd be able to see him if he tried to push her back into a wall and knock her out when they were walking. He picked the time where she was most vulnerable and it just happened to be when she was standing by the window looking into her gun's scope.
Spoiler: click to toggle I don't think it's as great as it is convenient though there's too many other ways that could have been written they were too lazy to go down different routes that made more realistic sense.
Sure it is possible and sure there might be lots of people called Bob/Robert in Georgia but given that the population probably isn't even 1% of what it used to be, it's highly improbable.
I mean wall as in the small section of wall between the windows, she was fairly close to that and it would actually knock her out or at least severely daze her. In fact knocking her towards that would have been smarter 'cause she'd have tipped over and hit it a lot harder. Maybe he wasn't a cop and didn't know that. Or maybe Sasha is just pretending for some strange reason.
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Nov 28 2014, 12:46 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah... that's why I kept holding my ground on the Bob thing, since I am from the south and I do know Georgia almost as well as I know Tennessee too, so I know how it is.
But even without that... it was pretty lazy to have her caught like that. Also, sure Noah said he was good, but Daryl or even Rick hasn't known him long enough to trust his word, that's not how we've seen the group work since the First Season. So, that was kind of out of Character for them to trust the Cop and Noah so easily and to leave Sasha alone like that. It's obvious they went for the quickest and easiest way to set up him escaping.
Oh well, it's already done and we've got another Episode coming in a few days anyway... so predictions for the next Episode?
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Dec 1 2014, 07:36 AM
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All i have to say about todays episode can be summed up in one word.
Yawn.
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Dec 1 2014, 03:59 PM
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As glad I am that it happened it was so obvious it was going to but not like that. Spoiler: click to toggle Glad nobody died for Beth and glad she's gone.
What the hell did she do that for though? A little stab there with scissors would do barely anything for starters and then what did she expect? That many cops against just a few others the main group would have been utterly destroyed what the actual f*** was she thinking? There is no way she could have known that the others would back down most of the cops we saw were a*****...
I liked how it wasn't just a bloodbath with the non cops miraculously winning. Whole Church thing was obvious and stupid not much else to say there.
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Dec 1 2014, 05:27 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, from about the first Ten or so Minutes into the Episode I knew Beth was going to die... I was happy she did too, she did absolutely nothing for me and I was bored every time she was on screen. Then, when they told Maggie that she was alive, then it was the most obvious thing to see coming. I was also waiting for when they wanted Noah back... I knew there was no way the trade would go clean, it would have been just way too easy. I just hope Morgan runs into the group before he gets on his way to DC... they've teased it for way too long and have drawn it out too much, they just need to have Morgan already join the group, if not it's going to get as stale as Beth did pretty fast.
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Dec 1 2014, 05:58 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Also what business did sister of the year have getting upset? Not once has she mentioned Beth and her hopes for her survival, lol.
I hope she doesn't go full retard and try to get revenge now, messing up that whole truce.
I think the next half is going to be about how Rick is slowly becoming a s***ty leader and that people want to leave or take control, they have no stability now what so ever so find a place or split up are all they have.
Don't see why it should be so hard now though they have what, I dunno 15 people or something they cleared the prison with less.
Don't see the point in the proest guy seemed like he might be hiding a sinister agenda but he just seems to be an innocent fool in actuality.
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Dec 1 2014, 06:03 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle I think if anything Maggie may become a Rick and try to take his spot, then you have a split in the group with certain people on Rick's side and some on Maggie's side, then somehow Morgan shows up right in the middle of all of it happening... I think it would be interesting.
I agree about Maggie though, I don't see why she cares now... before then she had already written Beth off, but Daryl had more of a reason to lose it over Beth, but his reaction was great. Not as good as when he got drunk with Beth, but neither of them was no where near as good as him finding Merle.
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Dec 1 2014, 06:14 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle How is Rick becoming a s***ty leader? He wanted to go with his plan but Daryl convinced him otherwise for Tyresse With Rick's plan Beth would still be alive. Also some of the nitpicks you guys have done could happen as much as you don't think it will. Look at this way there have been times in my life where I have been really shocked by the level of coincense of something, and that's saying a lot for someone like me. Other things to I'd go into more detail if I wasn't on my phone.
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Dec 1 2014, 06:20 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle If you're talking about the Bob thing. The reason I was strong with my argument, is because I live around and close to where the show is taking place, and I've visited Georgia several times... so I know the odds of running into another Bob in the south. Believe it or not, it's not that common in Georgia and in several parts in Tennessee.
However, I agree with you about Rick's plan, and I think Tyresse is going to get a lot of heat because of it.
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Dec 1 2014, 07:24 PM
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Yeah, coincidences happen in real life all the time. I can see how it is considered lazy writing since it does give the writer an easy route from A to B, but I don't really care too much since it's actually more realistic to incorporate coincidences into the plot. It only becomes a problem when the writer uses it so frequently that they form the basis for the entire story.
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Spoiler: click to toggle I enjoyed them. I feel like the reaction to Eugene's lie didn't really ring true to what people would have done. Abraham was the closest to being genuinely upset, and even he got over it pretty quickly. When you give people the hope that there's a way out of the s***storm they're in, I can't see them being as OK as they were with that hope being taken away.
I was genuinely shocked at Beth's death. In hindsight, it had to happen, otherwise there would have been too clean an ending for the season break. Maggie's reaction was inconsistent. They should have made a point of showing her character caring about her sister's wherabouts beforehand to make it seem more genuine.
I don't think Rick's being a s***ty leader, plus they already did that storyline during the Prison arc.
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Dec 1 2014, 08:34 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah I think everyone would be way more angry at Eugene realistically, I have no problem with them not outright murdering him but they're pretty much just like "lol, water under the bridge" Fair enough they could understand him doing whatever he could to survive, we've seen people use bones from zombies as weapons and saw their limbs off but still for anyone that truly believed, they should have been more upset for sure.
As for Rick being a s***ty leader I mean how he's becoming a lot darker, he seems like he's going to break at some point or get to the point where he just doesn't give a f***, he's becoming rather psychotic.
Did he really think that running over Bob was the answer...or did he just want to kill him? My money is on the latter, he was going to kill that other one were it not for Daryl. He's very unstable without Hershel there and nobody else is around to take his place, what happens when Daryl or Carl aren't there? He'd kill anyone sooner than take their name if they seemed even slightly risky.
I realize the good quality to that in a survival situation but the group won't, he's a different breed.
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Dec 1 2014, 09:58 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Yeah, he's becoming a combination of The Governor and Shane. Unless someone like Hershel steps in and makes him see that he's losing his morality, he's going to go down that road and never return... there's only so many dark turn Rick can make before it's too late to turn back. I hope Gabriel is Hershel's replacement, I could see that working out and keeping him around for a while. I just hope Tyresse gets over this whole "Won't kill anyone or Walkers" thing he's got going on, I understand what they're doing with him but that's already getting old and turning his character into a joke.
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Dec 1 2014, 11:15 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle It's good that he's being tougher. He's not losing his morality, he's just being more forceful about the way he does things. Like he said, he gave Bob several chances to stop walking and come back with him, but when he refused, he dealt with the situation. Having such a wild card in the group, even if he is a hostage, is too dangerous. They assumed he was helpless because he was in handcuffs, but look what happened to Sasha. Even with everything that happened, he still recognised that the people at the hospital could be good, so he extended invitations for them to join with his group. He's getting more forceful and maybe a little darker, but he's still Rick.
I hope Tyreese keeps up with his general pacifism. We haven't seen something like this since Dale, and it's quite refreshing to see that he's so passionate about his views. He might be being a bit naive, but somebody has to try and be the moral compass and Tyreese is doing a good job. His plan was the best one; there's no telling how many people would've died if they'd stormed the hospital. Tyreese's plan may have been riskier in a way, but it certainly had the best pay-off.
I genuinely cried when I saw Beth die. Seeing her confront Dawn and not back down even when Dawn revealed that she knew all about what happened with Gormon and the other officer was amazing. Even in the face of danger and death, she stood her ground and showed that she was truly strong. In her final moments, though, she showed that she still had that caring side, wanting to do anything in her power to stop Noah going back to his life in the hospital. It looks like she was aiming for the heart, but she missed. The other officers wouldn't have done anything; they despised Dawn. If Beth had been successful in her attack, only Dawn would've died, so it makes perfect sense.
I don't think Morgan's going to meet up with Rick's group for a while. It's nice having him there as a consistent presence in the background, always keeping us on our seats as to when he'll actually meet up with Rick's group, if he does at all.
Regarding Eugene's lies; they had bigger worries on their minds. Rick, Daryl and the others had gone to save Carol and Beth, two members of their family, so it's believable that they'd put their anger to one side as they waited to find out what happened in Atlanta.
With Maggie; she had other things to worry about. When Daryl said she'd been taken, she assumed the worst. Before they all met back up, she was focused solely on Glenn, because he's the one she's closest to. Beth wasn't an after-thought; she was hopeful after the Prison, saddened at Terminus, hopeful again at the Church and then devastated in Atlanta. A character doesn't have to show visible signs of caring about somebody else; we all know the characters well enough by now to know that she was worried.
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Dec 1 2014, 11:55 PM
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Spoiler: click to toggle For all that wishing she died... Now I'm said it actually happened. Somewhat more interesting episode for what this season has shown.
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