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She got hit pretty hard and she was exhausted, as well as off-guard. Not everybody has a hard head or a high pain tolerance. It wasn't 'plot convenience', it was just a combination of believable factors.
Gabriel is a big wild card at the moment, I hope that they develop this whole thing even more next episode. Still loving the fact that Therese is Mr. Nice Guy, almost like a tougher Dale.
It was lazy writing, she just met him and had no reason to trust him enough to let him stand behind her... that was pretty much an out of Character moment to add a twist to the ending, she's never that cerless.
It was lazy writing, she just met him and had no reason to trust him enough to let him stand behind her... that was pretty much an out of Character moment to add a twist to the ending, she's never that cerless.
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The guy seemed nice enough. Noah described him as a good guy and the fact that he was called Bob really struck Sasha; memories and emotions, as well as Noah's testimony, led her to think that he was a decent guy. Nothing hard to believe about that.
The fact that his name just happened to be the same name of the guy she just lost... that's really pushing the small world thing. I would have bought into this had it been a few weeks or months, but that it just so happens to be Bob within a matter of days after Sasha's Bob dying, it's a little too convenient.
The fact that his name just happened to be the same name of the guy she just lost... that's really pushing the small world thing. I would have bought into this had it been a few weeks or months, but that it just so happens to be Bob within a matter of days after Sasha's Bob dying, it's a little too convenient.
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Not really. It's not like Bob is an uncommon name, is it? You might see it as too hard to believe, but it's a real possibility and isn't really stretching.
Regardless hitting someones head iff the glass like that would more likely smash the glass and cut their head open than ever knock them out. Unless she has a brain aneursim or something she'd have to be really really weak.
Nobody's really mentioned the priest guy, wonder what he's up to reckon he might die or lead walkers back to the church accidentally, now they have a way in. I'll never get over how mich of a lack of peripheral vision and hearing these characters have, how do you not hear an ungraceful zombie trudging along crunching leaves and s***? The writing gets lazy for dramatic effect. Anyway seemed like the dude might not have been a priest but I reckon he must have been a man of God due to the necklace thing, under what circumstances though, ex-criminal born again?
As for Bob, sure, it's a possibility but from a writing standpoint...why? Why not just do a scene where the guy overhears the name and takes a shot?
The fact that his name just happened to be the same name of the guy she just lost... that's really pushing the small world thing. I would have bought into this had it been a few weeks or months, but that it just so happens to be Bob within a matter of days after Sasha's Bob dying, it's a little too convenient.
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Not really. It's not like Bob is an uncommon name, is it? You might see it as too hard to believe, but it's a real possibility and isn't really stretching.
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It's hard to believe because of how soon it's been since Bob's death. I live in the South and I've only known Six Bob's in my lifetime. I live in Tennessee, so Georgia is my neighbor State, and I've bee there before. Also, Shane is a pretty common name here so the same odds for Rick finding another Shane should have been almost as high. That's why I can't buy into it, because of where The Walking Dead is supposed to take place, and I know this area very well and how the odds are when running into someone of the same name of someone you know/knew.
Regardless hitting someones head iff the glass like that would more likely smash the glass and cut their head open than ever knock them out. Unless she has a brain aneursim or something she'd have to be really really weak.
Nobody's really mentioned the priest guy, wonder what he's up to reckon he might die or lead walkers back to the church accidentally, now they have a way in. I'll never get over how mich of a lack of peripheral vision and hearing these characters have, how do you not hear an ungraceful zombie trudging along crunching leaves and s***? The writing gets lazy for dramatic effect. Anyway seemed like the dude might not have been a priest but I reckon he must have been a man of God due to the necklace thing, under what circumstances though, ex-criminal born again?
As for Bob, sure, it's a possibility but from a writing standpoint...why? Why not just do a scene where the guy overhears the name and takes a shot?
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Have you ever been knocked quite hard and had your head smashed into a window? She was prepping for the shot and was completely off-guard, so she didn't have enough time to even try and stop herself.
It happened then because the writers wanted to explore Sasha's grieving process. Her overhearing it and then talking to him shows us how she's dealing with the loss and how it's impacting ghee actions in the situation she's in at the moment.
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The fact that his name just happened to be the same name of the guy she just lost... that's really pushing the small world thing. I would have bought into this had it been a few weeks or months, but that it just so happens to be Bob within a matter of days after Sasha's Bob dying, it's a little too convenient.
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Not really. It's not like Bob is an uncommon name, is it? You might see it as too hard to believe, but it's a real possibility and isn't really stretching.
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It's hard to believe because of how soon it's been since Bob's death. I live in the South and I've only known Six Bob's in my lifetime. I live in Tennessee, so Georgia is my neighbor State, and I've bee there before. Also, Shane is a pretty common name here so the same odds for Rick finding another Shane should have been almost as high. That's why I can't buy into it, because of where The Walking Dead is supposed to take place, and I know this area very well and how the odds are when running into someone of the same name of someone you know/knew.
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After going through the entire series where no characters have the same name, it was bound to happen at some point. I'll give it to you that it may be a tad improbable, but it certainly is possible.
Yeah, that's why I was really into following the production and the announcement of The Walking Dead... since it takes place around the State where I grew up. Sure, it's not in the same State, but it's close enough and most of it looks so much like the places I've lived in TN.
Regardless hitting someones head iff the glass like that would more likely smash the glass and cut their head open than ever knock them out. Unless she has a brain aneursim or something she'd have to be really really weak.
Nobody's really mentioned the priest guy, wonder what he's up to reckon he might die or lead walkers back to the church accidentally, now they have a way in. I'll never get over how mich of a lack of peripheral vision and hearing these characters have, how do you not hear an ungraceful zombie trudging along crunching leaves and s***? The writing gets lazy for dramatic effect. Anyway seemed like the dude might not have been a priest but I reckon he must have been a man of God due to the necklace thing, under what circumstances though, ex-criminal born again?
As for Bob, sure, it's a possibility but from a writing standpoint...why? Why not just do a scene where the guy overhears the name and takes a shot?
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Have you ever been knocked quite hard and had your head smashed into a window? She was prepping for the shot and was completely off-guard, so she didn't have enough time to even try and stop herself.
It happened then because the writers wanted to explore Sasha's grieving process. Her overhearing it and then talking to him shows us how she's dealing with the loss and how it's impacting ghee actions in the situation she's in at the moment.
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But her grieving process didn't need that she could have just been opening up to this "good guy"'s sob story anyway, it's believable maybe she wanted to see the good in other people. Or like I said they could have had him overhear the name Bob and the tone of the conversation and assumed he was someone that died.
Maybe he did though perhaps next episode he'll say that, it's a possibility I guess but if not it's pretty dumb writing.
I've rode a bike in to the back of a van without being prepared for it and smashed my head off it, when I was like 7 or 8 too. Been kicked in the face so hard I had a bruise for 3 weeks that went 5 different colours, hit by a golf club, hit in the face by footballs several times by guys who played football daily, big jock kinda guys and have been punched in the face a few times None of which has ever knocked me out despite for most of them being a child.
People aren't nearly as easy to knock out as TV likes to think. They could have just had some random piece of metal on the floor even the characters overlooking that would make more sense.
Also she was a firefighter so it's not like she was some store clerk who never saw any action.
Regardless hitting someones head iff the glass like that would more likely smash the glass and cut their head open than ever knock them out. Unless she has a brain aneursim or something she'd have to be really really weak.
Nobody's really mentioned the priest guy, wonder what he's up to reckon he might die or lead walkers back to the church accidentally, now they have a way in. I'll never get over how mich of a lack of peripheral vision and hearing these characters have, how do you not hear an ungraceful zombie trudging along crunching leaves and s***? The writing gets lazy for dramatic effect. Anyway seemed like the dude might not have been a priest but I reckon he must have been a man of God due to the necklace thing, under what circumstances though, ex-criminal born again?
As for Bob, sure, it's a possibility but from a writing standpoint...why? Why not just do a scene where the guy overhears the name and takes a shot?
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Have you ever been knocked quite hard and had your head smashed into a window? She was prepping for the shot and was completely off-guard, so she didn't have enough time to even try and stop herself.
It happened then because the writers wanted to explore Sasha's grieving process. Her overhearing it and then talking to him shows us how she's dealing with the loss and how it's impacting ghee actions in the situation she's in at the moment.
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But her grieving process didn't need that she could have just been opening up to this "good guy"'s sob story anyway, it's believable maybe she wanted to see the good in other people. Or like I said they could have had him overhear the name Bob and the tone of the conversation and assumed he was someone that died.
Maybe he did though perhaps next episode he'll say that, it's a possibility I guess but if not it's pretty dumb writing.
I've rode a bike in to the back of a van without being prepared for it and smashed my head off it, when I was like 7 or 8 too. Been kicked in the face so hard I had a bruise for 3 weeks that went 5 different colours, hit by a golf club, hit in the face by footballs several times by guys who played football daily, big jock kinda guys and have been punched in the face a few times None of which has ever knocked me out despite for most of them being a child.
People aren't nearly as easy to knock out as TV likes to think. They could have just had some random piece of metal on the floor even the characters overlooking that would make more sense.
Also she was a firefighter so it's not like she was some store clerk who never saw any action.
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How is it 'dumb writing', though. It's a possibility, and just because it may be a little improbably, doesn't mean that it's 'bad' in any sense.
Regarding Sasha getting knocked out, maybe it's a little hard to believe, but that's just the fault of the industry as a whole. Like you said, TV has a certain view of how people can get knocked out, so you can't really single out this show and criticise it for conforming to that idea.
How is it 'dumb writing', though. It's a possibility, and just because it may be a little improbably, doesn't mean that it's 'bad' in any sense.
Regarding Sasha getting knocked out, maybe it's a little hard to believe, but that's just the fault of the industry as a whole. Like you said, TV has a certain view of how people can get knocked out, so you can't really single out this show and criticise it for conforming to that idea.
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It's dumb because it's wayyy to convenient, they obviously spent no more than a minute deciding that they'd just chuck some dude called Bob in right after Bob died.
Like you said nobody in the series has had the same name as someone else so far, so it just so happens this guy did out of nowhere? Maybe weeks after but this is like 2 days. Even if he was called Robert it'd be alright I guess.
True...but a window? Why not just the wall? Or make her bounce off the wall and hit her head on something. I suppose landing on some machinery could kill her and they don't want her to die just yet but a wall would be fine. Her head wouldn't be but she'd live.
Another thing they could have done is had him put her in a choke hold to knock her out, police should know how to do that kind of thing. Seemed like he genuinely was an officer.
How is it 'dumb writing', though. It's a possibility, and just because it may be a little improbably, doesn't mean that it's 'bad' in any sense.
Regarding Sasha getting knocked out, maybe it's a little hard to believe, but that's just the fault of the industry as a whole. Like you said, TV has a certain view of how people can get knocked out, so you can't really single out this show and criticise it for conforming to that idea.
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It's dumb because it's wayyy to convenient, they obviously spent no more than a minute deciding that they'd just chuck some dude called Bob in right after Bob died.
Like you said nobody in the series has had the same name as someone else so far, so it just so happens this guy did out of nowhere? Maybe weeks after but this is like 2 days. Even if he was called Robert it'd be alright I guess.
True...but a window? Why not just the wall? Or make her bounce off the wall and hit her head on something. I suppose landing on some machinery could kill her and they don't want her to die just yet but a wall would be fine. Her head wouldn't be but she'd live.
Another thing they could have done is had him put her in a choke hold to knock her out, police should know how to do that kind of thing. Seemed like he genuinely was an officer.
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Nah, it's quite obvious that they spent quite a while going over what was happening with Sasha. Having somebody named Bob there when she's so vulnerable and weak is a great vehicle for development. It doesn't really matter if it's inconvenient; there's bound to be loads of people in Atlanta with the same name. It's a realistic possibility, and that's all that matters.
I dunno, the way he was speaking to Rick made it seem like he wasn't actually an officer. Well, that or he didn't see himself as a good one. It was in the heat of the moment; he obviously planned to knock her out and escape. The only time he'd be able to do that was when she was by the window, as she'd be able to see him if he tried to push her back into a wall and knock her out when they were walking. He picked the time where she was most vulnerable and it just happened to be when she was standing by the window looking into her gun's scope.
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