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Movie Multiverse
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 03:12 AM (393 Views)
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Jul 5 2012, 12:06 AM
Fusion Reborn is a sequel to Bio Broly?

What sense does that even begin to make...?

It's not, and here's why.

Bio Broly takes place a day after the World Tournament.

Goten and Trunks should be learning Fusion by this time.

In Fusion Reborn, they used the Kamikaze Ghost Attack. They learned/perfected it in the RoSaT.

Bio Broly and Fusion Reborn cannot take place in the same universe because the timelines are completely off.

And since you want to make these illogical baseless conclusions, I'll say that Bojack Unbound is a sequel to Broly: LSSJ (despite having different staff/writers EXACTLY LIKE Bio Broly/Fusion Reborn) because I can.


That got me thinking. What're you guys's movie universe groupings? What movies do you place in the same universe?

Me:
Anime, M1 (Canon to Anime Filler), M9 and Specials.
M3-4.
GT, M5-6 and 8, 10, 11, 13, OVA 1.
M2, M7, M12 and the other two OVAs are in their own universes.
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I have both Cooler films happening in a universe where Trunks doesn't go back in time because the Androids never exist. Piccolo still fuses with Kami for whatever reason though.

The rest of the movies, especially the ones during the Saiyan Saga are so hard to place because they can absolutely not happen in the main timeline, and it's hard to create an alternate one.

SHINRI TREE MOVIE, I'm looking at you.

I can buy the Broly movies all happening in the same universe too.

Also, I think that Bojack Unbound, Fusion Reborn, and Wrath of the Dragon could all exist in the same universe.
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Jul 5 2012, 03:18 AM
I have both Cooler films happening in a universe where Trunks doesn't go back in time because the Androids never exist. Piccolo still fuses with Kami for whatever reason though.

The rest of the movies, especially the ones during the Saiyan Saga are so hard to place because they can absolutely not happen in the main timeline, and it's hard to create an alternate one.

SHINRI TREE MOVIE, I'm looking at you.

I can buy the Broly movies all happening in the same universe too.

Also, I think that Bojack Unbound, Fusion Reborn, and Wrath of the Dragon could all exist in the same universe.
I don't see any version of events where Fusion Reborn's canon. It was a good movie, but a nightmare to place.

Bojack Unbound actually has by far the fewest inconsistencies of any movie. Only one comes to mind, and that's easily explained: The presence of Trunks's sword. He could've just REPAIRED it.

Wrath of the Dragon is, along with Bio-Broly, the movie I've seen the least often. I only vaguely remember events and have to scramble for research about it.

As for the Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans, I have it set in Broly's universe because Goku directly states that Hatchiyack is possibly stronger than Broly. :\

PS: At the edit in the original post, I thought about it and recategorized. Turles is supposed to be around the Android Saga, and if Cooler arrived shortly after the Frieza Saga there's no way Goku would get sh*tstomped so easily.
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Turles can't be around the Android Saga because Lord Slug takes place around when Goku arrives on Namek.
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Yeah, Turles is in the Saiyan Saga.

Which makes absolutely no sense at all because Tien, Yamcha, and Piccolo are all alive, yet Goku knows Kaioken.

Wrath Of The Dragon can perfectly happen after the end of the Boo Saga though.

Fusion Reborn obviously happens in a different universe, but we know a few things.

Boo exists in that universe, and so do the past villains from movies and films.
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Jul 5 2012, 03:38 AM
Turles can't be around the Android Saga because Lord Slug takes place around when Goku arrives on Namek.
All the Z fighters are alive, Yamcha's gi back has the King Kai symbol to support that they were killed during the Saiyan Saga and resurrected towards end of the Frieza Saga. Gohan has just met Icarus.

I give the movies a little leeway on canon, though, because they ran alongside the main series. Tree of Might came out in '90, smack in the middle of the Namek Saga.
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Yeah, but you're missing one crucial thing here, lol.

The Android Saga didn't even exist when Tree Of Might was made.

I know I'm one to give Toei credit as to when they animate manga drafts and how quickly, but I don't even think that Third Form Freeza had been revealed in the manga, so how does Tree Of Might Occur during the Android Saga?
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Jul 5 2012, 04:01 AM
Yeah, but you're missing one crucial thing here, lol.

The Android Saga didn't even exist when Tree Of Might was made.

I know I'm one to give Toei credit as to when they animate manga drafts and how quickly, but I don't even think that Third Form Freeza had been revealed in the manga, so how does Tree Of Might Occur during the Android Saga?
Good point that I was previously herbally incapable of thinking of.

Here's the thing: That's the only place it'd logically fit. The three-year training period. They may not have originally thought of it, but it all fell into place quite quickly.

PS: I concede the point. Plotholes galore.
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Well, for one, I don't believe in previous movies taking place at later times in the series than future movies (i.e. Movie 3 taking place during the 3 years when it's debatable that Movie 5 doesn't even take place then).
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