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Jun 18 2012, 02:42 PM
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After reading gaps between Broly and Bojack on other forums i got to my new gap list :
SSJ2 Kid Gohan ( enraged ) => SPC = Super Hatchijack => Super Bojack > Perfect Cell = Hatchijack > LSSJ Broly movie 8.
Kid Gohan is stated to be rival to SPC. He was confident in beating him, but lets just say that he would have more trouble than before.
Hatchijack is clearly a copy of Cell. So Super Hatchijack is on pair with SPC.
Reason i placed Super Bojack so high is because he canceled Gohans kamehameha.
Canceling even stronger kamehameha ( Super Bojack ) > tanking kamehameha ( LSSJ Broly movie 8 )
Bojack cancelled out a more powerful Kamehameha, Cell was overpowered by a weaker one. That puts Super Bojack at least above FP Perfect Cell.
If you think about all that you could go so far as to say Super Bojack could be even stronger then SPC, but I think of him as just below to be safe. Two other things should be noted though, one that in the movie Gohan said Bojack's Ki was incredible (this is after sensing SPC) and was scared of Bojack, and also that Bojack came after Cell and Broly. I'm pretty sure Toei would have been trying to create an even more powerful villain then Cell and Broly (until movie 10 that is) when they made the Bojack movie. Whether that's worth anything is up to you.
Hatchijack copy of Perfect Cell.
Hatchijack is stated to be above LSSJ Broly movie 8, and reason i have Perfect Cell above LSSJ Broly movie 8. Hatchijack = Perfect Cell...
Nah. I agree Toei makes the new villians the strongest but Bojack is weaker than SPC. I agree he is above Full Power Perfect. SPC and SSJ2 Kid Gohan were equals and I prefer to go with Cell and not with a stupid kid who doesn't know how to fight correctly. As for Cell and Hatchiyack I agree with you since Hatchiyack is just Toei's version of Cell. The Doctor even told Hatchiyack "go absorb my grudge and acheive your perfect form" Notice he said Perfect form? and also absorb it? That's defenetly proves Base Hatchiyack and Perfect Cell are equals.
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Jun 18 2012, 02:46 PM
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
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Jun 18 2012, 02:49 PM
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
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Jun 18 2012, 02:53 PM
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did toei also make pui pui stronger than spc?
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Well he said that because he got damaged arm. Before getting his arm damaged he talks about stomping Cell, but clearly underestimating his power. Also i have Gohan off guard, so reason he still though that he would win if he was at 100%.
Yes we can also assume that he said that out of frustration because he whanted to avenge Goku.
Diffrent opinions, more or less.
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did toei also make pui pui stronger than spc? You mean the guy that thinks how 10x gravity would help him ?
Not realy. Toei still follows Akira Toriyama logic in some parts so its still SPC > Base saiyans.
Maybe its more chance for SSJ > SPC in Toei Boo saga world.
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Jun 18 2012, 03:01 PM
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did toei also make pui pui stronger than spc? Baseless. I am talking about Movies's characters when the new movie villian is stronger than the last one andbefore you say Bio Broly so he was weaker simply because Trunks and Goten are weaker. The Z fighters in movie 9>Z fighters in movie 8 so Bojack>Broly simple as that.
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Jun 18 2012, 03:03 PM
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did toei also make pui pui stronger than spc?
You mean the guy that thinks how 10x gravity would help him ? Not realy. Toei still follows Akira Toriyama logic in some parts so its still SPC > Base saiyans. Maybe its more chance for SSJ > SPC in Toei Boo saga world. No. It's still following the logic of AT but only contradicts it by using fillers. Base Saiyan being able to keep up with a SSJ level like Dabura vs Gohan contradicts the Manga or SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu who is in the Anime above Buuhan.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable. When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack. If Gohan was stronger he wouldn't be so damaged so SPC and Gohan were equals.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack.
If Gohan was stronger he wouldn't be so damaged so SPC and Gohan were equals. Gohan was in a panic, focusing every ounce of his power toward reaching Vegeta in time. For this reason the blast took him by surprise, with his defenses lowered. That's the only reason it damaged him so much. He claimed he had lost half his power, but he really didn't. He just had poor self-esteem, having been through the trauma of his father dying, and his arm being injured at this crucial moment. Goku continued to insist that Gohan was subconsiously holding back, and when Gohan finally does cut loose, his power utterly overwhelms Cell and erases him.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack.
If Gohan was stronger he wouldn't be so damaged so SPC and Gohan were equals.
Gohan was in a panic, focusing every ounce of his power toward reaching Vegeta in time. For this reason the blast took him by surprise, with his defenses lowered. That's the only reason it damaged him so much. He claimed he had lost half his power, but he really didn't. He just had poor self-esteem, having been through the trauma of his father dying, and his arm being injured at this crucial moment. Goku continued to insist that Gohan was subconsiously holding back, and when Gohan finally does cut loose, his power utterly overwhelms Cell and erases him. Because he lost his mind. The Daiz says when Gohan loses his mind and get mad his power skyrockets and nothing can stop him. Well, I don't know what your point. Do you agree they were equals.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack.
If Gohan was stronger he wouldn't be so damaged so SPC and Gohan were equals.
Gohan was in a panic, focusing every ounce of his power toward reaching Vegeta in time. For this reason the blast took him by surprise, with his defenses lowered. That's the only reason it damaged him so much. He claimed he had lost half his power, but he really didn't. He just had poor self-esteem, having been through the trauma of his father dying, and his arm being injured at this crucial moment. Goku continued to insist that Gohan was subconsiously holding back, and when Gohan finally does cut loose, his power utterly overwhelms Cell and erases him.
Because he lost his mind. The Daiz says when Gohan loses his mind and get mad his power skyrockets and nothing can stop him. Well, I don't know what your point. Do you agree they were equals. Seriously I think that SPC was stronger here's why : Cell says he's powered up "like Gohan did and If Cell was stronger than Gohan when they were both in the Super Saiyan tier, then Cell should be stronger than Gohan when he joins the Super Saiyan 2 tier.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack.
If Gohan was stronger he wouldn't be so damaged so SPC and Gohan were equals.
Gohan was in a panic, focusing every ounce of his power toward reaching Vegeta in time. For this reason the blast took him by surprise, with his defenses lowered. That's the only reason it damaged him so much. He claimed he had lost half his power, but he really didn't. He just had poor self-esteem, having been through the trauma of his father dying, and his arm being injured at this crucial moment. Goku continued to insist that Gohan was subconsiously holding back, and when Gohan finally does cut loose, his power utterly overwhelms Cell and erases him.
Because he lost his mind. The Daiz says when Gohan loses his mind and get mad his power skyrockets and nothing can stop him. Well, I don't know what your point. Do you agree they were equals.
Seriously I think that SPC was stronger  here's why : Cell says he's powered up "like Gohan did and If Cell was stronger than Gohan when they were both in the Super Saiyan tier, then Cell should be stronger than Gohan when he joins the Super Saiyan 2 tier. Well I dont see how does it prove SPC>SSJ2 Gohan but You can also intepret it as the diffrence between SSJ2 Gohan to SSJ Gohan is like the diffrence between SPC to Perfect Cell but nah they were equals.
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Well yea its stated that Gohan is rival to SPC, but its not stated who is stronger. Its only my opinion to put Gohan little bit above SPC because after damaged arm, he though that he could win if he wasnt damaged.
Yea Super Bojack should logicly be stronger than Perfect Cell or Broly Movie 8. SH = SPC, Hatchijack = Perfect Cell > Broly Movie 8.
No Gohan said "It's too bad I wanted to tear you apart" First Gohan doesn't even know how strong Cell was. So we can only assume that he said that out of frustration because he wanted avenge his father's death but realised Cell was too strong. Anime Cell is haxed IMO. Toei even used fillers which suggest Cell was stronger which doesn't surprise me since this is another proof Toei makes the new characters the strongest and they even made Kid Buu>Buuhan so saying Movie 8 Broly is above Bojack when the Z Fighters are even weaker in movie 8 is laughable.
When Gohan took Cell's attack, he was utterly focused on reaching Vegeta. He misjudged the blast's speed, and is surprised when it hits him andThe argument is that Gohan was off-guard, his defenses lowered, and all of his ki focused on speed, which is the only reason the attack harmed him,Furthermore, Gohan hadn't believed Cell was much stronger at all which is another reason he didn't bother focusing his power on defending against Cell's attack.
If Gohan was stronger he wouldn't be so damaged so SPC and Gohan were equals.
Gohan was in a panic, focusing every ounce of his power toward reaching Vegeta in time. For this reason the blast took him by surprise, with his defenses lowered. That's the only reason it damaged him so much. He claimed he had lost half his power, but he really didn't. He just had poor self-esteem, having been through the trauma of his father dying, and his arm being injured at this crucial moment. Goku continued to insist that Gohan was subconsiously holding back, and when Gohan finally does cut loose, his power utterly overwhelms Cell and erases him.
Because he lost his mind. The Daiz says when Gohan loses his mind and get mad his power skyrockets and nothing can stop him. Well, I don't know what your point. Do you agree they were equals.
Seriously I think that SPC was stronger  here's why : Cell says he's powered up "like Gohan did and If Cell was stronger than Gohan when they were both in the Super Saiyan tier, then Cell should be stronger than Gohan when he joins the Super Saiyan 2 tier.
Well I dont see how does it prove SPC>SSJ2 Gohan but You can also intepret it as the diffrence between SSJ2 Gohan to SSJ Gohan is like the diffrence between SPC to Perfect Cell but nah they were equals. In the end it's just opinions yours is yours , mine is mine but I have stronger than Gohan by a bit If Cell were really much stronger than Gohan, then he'd have just blasted through Gohan's Kamehameha with his own, especially if Gohan were wounded so their powers should be close to eachother.
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