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Piccolo ( Buu saga ) vs SSJ Kid Trunks ( at Tournament )
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Piccolo <<< SSjin Trunks at Budokai =< SSjin Teen Gohan at budokai . Trunks stomps .
You have SSJ Gohan a bit stronger than SSJ Trunks ? I have Gohan 2x stronger. Goten.
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SSjin Goten was slightly weaker than SSjin Teen Gohan and SSjin Trunks was slightly stronger than SSjin Goten and I have Teen Gohan at MSSjin Goku (Cell games) level was Piccolo on pair with MSSjin Goku ?? no for sure , so I have Trunks wining here IMO .
Based on what is SS Goten slightly weaker than SS Teen Gohan? Is there a daizenshuu that states their power levels are similar or is this an assumption? Piccolo was Goten and Trunks master. I don't think Goku would've left him in charge of their training if they were stronger than him.
Just watch their fight in the Manga Gohan was clearlt having big problems with Goten that's an enough evidence .
Or maybe that has to do with Gohan becoming weaker/out of practice from not training for 7 years. Vegeta and Goku both say he's gotten soft from not training during his fight with Dabura.
Gohan is weaker he's on MSSjin Goku (cell games) level canPiccollo match that ?? NOO , and Goten is a bit inferior to him and Trunks is a bit superior to Goten so : Piccolo <<< SSjin Goten at Budokai < SSjin Trunks at budokai <= MSSjin Teen Gohan at budokai = MSSjin Goku (Cell games) < MSSjin Kid Gohan .
Based on what? You're not providing any evidence. Everything you're saying is baseless statements. Your entire argument is "NO".
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Piccolo <<< SSjin Trunks at Budokai =< SSjin Teen Gohan at budokai . Trunks stomps .
You have SSJ Gohan a bit stronger than SSJ Trunks ? I have Gohan 2x stronger. Goten.
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SSJ Kid trunks pre 10
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SSjin Goten was slightly weaker than SSjin Teen Gohan and SSjin Trunks was slightly stronger than SSjin Goten and I have Teen Gohan at MSSjin Goku (Cell games) level was Piccolo on pair with MSSjin Goku ?? no for sure , so I have Trunks wining here IMO .
Based on what is SS Goten slightly weaker than SS Teen Gohan? Is there a daizenshuu that states their power levels are similar or is this an assumption? Piccolo was Goten and Trunks master. I don't think Goku would've left him in charge of their training if they were stronger than him.
Just watch their fight in the Manga Gohan was clearlt having big problems with Goten that's an enough evidence .
Or maybe that has to do with Gohan becoming weaker/out of practice from not training for 7 years. Vegeta and Goku both say he's gotten soft from not training during his fight with Dabura.
Gohan is weaker he's on MSSjin Goku (cell games) level canPiccollo match that ?? NOO , and Goten is a bit inferior to him and Trunks is a bit superior to Goten so : Piccolo <<< SSjin Goten at Budokai < SSjin Trunks at budokai <= MSSjin Teen Gohan at budokai = MSSjin Goku (Cell games) < MSSjin Kid Gohan .
Based on what? You're not providing any evidence. Everything you're saying is baseless statements. Your entire argument is "NO".
Just go and watch the fight and you see what I mean , Gohan was WEAKER than his Cell games counterpart are you trying to say that he even weaker than Piccolo !! :o_O: no way .
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Piccolo <<< SSjin Trunks at Budokai =< SSjin Teen Gohan at budokai . Trunks stomps .
You have SSJ Gohan a bit stronger than SSJ Trunks ? I have Gohan 2x stronger. Goten.
Piccolo 14
SSJ Kid trunks pre 10
SSJ Goten pre 9
SSjin Goten was slightly weaker than SSjin Teen Gohan and SSjin Trunks was slightly stronger than SSjin Goten and I have Teen Gohan at MSSjin Goku (Cell games) level was Piccolo on pair with MSSjin Goku ?? no for sure , so I have Trunks wining here IMO .
Based on what is SS Goten slightly weaker than SS Teen Gohan? Is there a daizenshuu that states their power levels are similar or is this an assumption?
Son Goten :

A gifted child who mastered Super Saiyan at a young age.

By virtue of being Goku's son, Goten posses battle power not the least bit inferior to even Gohan. On top of being able to unleash a startling amount of power in even his normal state, he can easily transform into a Super Saiyan. Furthermore, he merges with Trunks through a technique known as Fusion.

Goten, Trunks and Gohan are basicly in close gap and better martial artist probably wins.


So you're assuming he's stronger because he's Goku's son? These are all assumptions without any basis. The kids displaying "startling amount of power" is entirely relative to what they'd expect them to display given their age. That doens't mean that they surpassed Piccolo, just that they surpassed Gohan's power level when he was the kids age. Statements being taken entirely out of context.
I only copy pasted but it clearly says that Goten posses battle power not the least bit inferior to even Gohan.

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Piccolo <<< SSjin Trunks at Budokai =< SSjin Teen Gohan at budokai . Trunks stomps .
You have SSJ Gohan a bit stronger than SSJ Trunks ? I have Gohan 2x stronger. Goten.
Piccolo 14
SSJ Kid trunks pre 10
SSJ Goten pre 9
SSjin Goten was slightly weaker than SSjin Teen Gohan and SSjin Trunks was slightly stronger than SSjin Goten and I have Teen Gohan at MSSjin Goku (Cell games) level was Piccolo on pair with MSSjin Goku ?? no for sure , so I have Trunks wining here IMO .
Based on what is SS Goten slightly weaker than SS Teen Gohan? Is there a daizenshuu that states their power levels are similar or is this an assumption? Piccolo was Goten and Trunks master. I don't think Goku would've left him in charge of their training if they were stronger than him.
Just watch their fight in the Manga Gohan was clearlt having big problems with Goten that's an enough evidence .
Or maybe that has to do with Gohan becoming weaker/out of practice from not training for 7 years. Vegeta and Goku both say he's gotten soft from not training during his fight with Dabura.
Gohan is weaker he's on MSSjin Goku (cell games) level canPiccollo match that ?? NOO , and Goten is a bit inferior to him and Trunks is a bit superior to Goten so : Piccolo <<< SSjin Goten at Budokai < SSjin Trunks at budokai <= MSSjin Teen Gohan at budokai = MSSjin Goku (Cell games) < MSSjin Kid Gohan .
Based on what? You're not providing any evidence. Everything you're saying is baseless statements. Your entire argument is "NO".
Just go and watch the fight and you see what I mean , Gohan was WEAKER than his Cell games counterpart are you trying to say that he even weaker than Piccolo !! :o_O: no way .
First off, I've seen the fights. Please don't try to insult me by assuming I haven't. Secondly, why would Piccolo have to be stronger then Gohan to be stronger then the kids? You're assuming that the kids are even near Gohan's level based on assumptions.
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Piccolo <<< SSjin Trunks at Budokai =< SSjin Teen Gohan at budokai . Trunks stomps .
You have SSJ Gohan a bit stronger than SSJ Trunks ? I have Gohan 2x stronger. Goten.
Piccolo 14
SSJ Kid trunks pre 10
SSJ Goten pre 9
SSjin Goten was slightly weaker than SSjin Teen Gohan and SSjin Trunks was slightly stronger than SSjin Goten and I have Teen Gohan at MSSjin Goku (Cell games) level was Piccolo on pair with MSSjin Goku ?? no for sure , so I have Trunks wining here IMO .
Based on what is SS Goten slightly weaker than SS Teen Gohan? Is there a daizenshuu that states their power levels are similar or is this an assumption?
Son Goten :

A gifted child who mastered Super Saiyan at a young age.

By virtue of being Goku's son, Goten posses battle power not the least bit inferior to even Gohan. On top of being able to unleash a startling amount of power in even his normal state, he can easily transform into a Super Saiyan. Furthermore, he merges with Trunks through a technique known as Fusion.

Goten, Trunks and Gohan are basicly in close gap and better martial artist probably wins.


So you're assuming he's stronger because he's Goku's son? These are all assumptions without any basis. The kids displaying "startling amount of power" is entirely relative to what they'd expect them to display given their age. That doens't mean that they surpassed Piccolo, just that they surpassed Gohan's power level when he was the kids age. Statements being taken entirely out of context.
I only copy pasted but it clearly says that Goten posses battle power not the least bit inferior to even Gohan.



I've already posted that that statement could be taken entirely out of context. Their displaying startling power for their age doesn't necessarily mean they're saying they're as strong as Gohan, it could be entirely relative to what they're expected to display given Gohan's progression when he was their age.
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Piccolo <<< SSjin Trunks at Budokai =< SSjin Teen Gohan at budokai . Trunks stomps .
You have SSJ Gohan a bit stronger than SSJ Trunks ? I have Gohan 2x stronger. Goten.
Piccolo 14
SSJ Kid trunks pre 10
SSJ Goten pre 9
SSjin Goten was slightly weaker than SSjin Teen Gohan and SSjin Trunks was slightly stronger than SSjin Goten and I have Teen Gohan at MSSjin Goku (Cell games) level was Piccolo on pair with MSSjin Goku ?? no for sure , so I have Trunks wining here IMO .
Based on what is SS Goten slightly weaker than SS Teen Gohan? Is there a daizenshuu that states their power levels are similar or is this an assumption? Piccolo was Goten and Trunks master. I don't think Goku would've left him in charge of their training if they were stronger than him.
Just watch their fight in the Manga Gohan was clearlt having big problems with Goten that's an enough evidence .
Or maybe that has to do with Gohan becoming weaker/out of practice from not training for 7 years. Vegeta and Goku both say he's gotten soft from not training during his fight with Dabura.
Gohan is weaker he's on MSSjin Goku (cell games) level canPiccollo match that ?? NOO , and Goten is a bit inferior to him and Trunks is a bit superior to Goten so : Piccolo <<< SSjin Goten at Budokai < SSjin Trunks at budokai <= MSSjin Teen Gohan at budokai = MSSjin Goku (Cell games) < MSSjin Kid Gohan .
Based on what? You're not providing any evidence. Everything you're saying is baseless statements. Your entire argument is "NO".
Just go and watch the fight and you see what I mean , Gohan was WEAKER than his Cell games counterpart are you trying to say that he even weaker than Piccolo !! :o_O: no way .
First off, I've seen the fights. Please don't try to insult me by assuming I haven't. Secondly, why would Piccolo have to be stronger then Gohan to be stronger then the kids? You're assuming that the kids are even near Gohan's level based on assumptions.
cuz Gohan was slightly superior to the kids stated by Gohan himself in the Manga and Piccolo barely did any training during the 7 years and Vegeta was confident in wining the Budokai in Base knowing that Piccolo is fighting too .
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Already went over that that statement could be taken out of context. Vegeta making outlandish claims? He's never done that before right? This entire discussion has become cyclical.
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Gohan was shown having trouble with Goten in training, so I can't picture Goten being too much weaker than Gohan. Maybe 20% at most, much more than that and Gohan would be defending without problems, more than say 40% and Gohan would just be standing still and dodging, more than 100%/2x as strong and Gohan would just tank stuff.
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Gohan was shown having trouble with Goten in training, so I can't picture Goten being too much weaker than Gohan. Maybe 20% at most, much more than that and Gohan would be defending without problems, more than say 40% and Gohan would just be standing still and dodging, more than 100%/2x as strong and Gohan would just tank stuff.
Gohan hasn't trained in 7 years. Him having trouble is indicative of lack of training/him being surprised by Goten having progressed as far as he has, not of Goten's power level. This is him having trouble?



He dodges Goten's attacks as base when Goten's super saiyan. The fight ends once he goes super saiyan.
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Gohan hasn't trained in 7 years. Him having trouble is indicative of lack of training/him being surprised by Goten having progressed as far as he has, not of Goten's power level. This is him having trouble?

The lack of skill doesn't matter that much, the gap can't be too high otherwise Gohan wouldn't even need to dodge, he'd just tank Goten's hits. Plus I don't think Goten is all that skilled himself.

And that clip is filler.
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Lol video long 1:39, and has intro long 50 seconds XD

Btw thats a filler. We cant go by filler because they are not good examp. One reason : SSJ Goku fires kamehameha on Gohan in time chamber.

Gohan should be dead in instant, so you see what i mean.
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Gohan hasn't trained in 7 years. Him having trouble is indicative of lack of training/him being surprised by Goten having progressed as far as he has, not of Goten's power level. This is him having trouble?

The lack of skill doesn't matter that much, the gap can't be too high otherwise Gohan wouldn't even need to dodge, he'd just tank Goten's hits. Plus I don't think Goten is all that skilled himself.

And that clip is filler.
What sort of training is tanking punches? How would that help either Gohan or Goten?
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Lol video long 1:39, and has intro long 50 seconds XD

Btw thats a filler. We cant go by filler because they are not good examp. One reason : SSJ Goku fires kamehameha on Gohan in time chamber.

Gohan should be dead in instant, so you see what i mean.
It's not my video so how is that relevant? Seems like bashing for no reason. So you're saying we can't go by the only fight of Goten and Gohan prior to the tournament but we can go by assumptions? What sort of logic is that.
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Nothing implies that Gohan is far ahead of Goten, tbh. Gohan wasn't holding back, of course he was having the edge in the fight but still he was trying very hard, we can see how fatigued he was. >_>
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