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Jun 17 2012, 05:48 PM Post #16 |
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Oh yeah, posted this in another thread
That's for anyone who follows Daizenshuu, if you don't follow the guidebooks, then You would have to assume that 1- The Metamorans don't know of rival boost (even though they're the ones who created the technique, and there'd likely be at least one case of rivals fusing) 2- They knew but didn't tell Goku (but why would they neglect to tell him something so important about the technique?) 3- Goku knows but neglected to tell anyone (but if he knew of its incredible boost, why would he be unsure he could beat Boo by fusing with Vegeta?) That's in short why I think only Potara has rival boost and why I think Potara is stronger than Fusion Dance. Where I'd put Gogeta and Vegetto using this logic: SSj Gotenks Post-RST << SSj Gogeta <<<<< SSj3 Gotenks >/< Evil Boo << SSj3 Gogeta ~ Ultimate Gohan <<< Gohan-Boo <<<< SSj Vegetto |
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| Billa | Jun 17 2012, 06:13 PM Post #17 |
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Thala na Gethu!
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Posted in wrong section, fake interview: All I can do is shake my head.. |
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| HersheyDux | Jun 17 2012, 07:23 PM Post #18 |
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You know, it's really sad when people have to make up stuff to get their point across. Fact is: Vegetto is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gogeta. |
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Jun 17 2012, 07:28 PM Post #19 |
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Let me pose a quick hypothetical to everyone. Say this interview wasn't fake. Would you believe Toriyama if he said that Gogeta was > Vegetto? |
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Jun 17 2012, 07:33 PM Post #20 |
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Ofc... |
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| MysticGotenks | Jun 17 2012, 07:43 PM Post #21 |
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No I wouldn't. Not supported in the manga. If AT was serious, and kept this belief for multiple interviews, then I would say he is wrong as hasn't really looked into his manga properly. |
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Jun 17 2012, 07:47 PM Post #22 |
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I say that Author's Word > Manga. Simply because he created the manga. He can make any character stronger than any character he wants. It's his universe. Similar to the Toei anime. Do you accept that Goku > Mystic Gohan? Of course you shouldn't, but in the Toei anime universe, he is, and there's nothing we can do to discredit Toei because it's their universe. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 17 2012, 07:53 PM Post #23 |
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Toriyama said tails are a recessive trait. Try and fit that into the manga's canon. |
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Jun 17 2012, 07:56 PM Post #24 |
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Two things. Is it possible that the translation mistook recessive for dominant? Or is it possible that Toriyama confused the two? Other than that...I have no idea what he was thinking. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 17 2012, 08:02 PM Post #25 |
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The question was in regards as to why Goten and Trunks did not have tails, Toriyama replied that it seems tails must be a recessive trait. |
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Jun 17 2012, 08:08 PM Post #26 |
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Yeah, I can't even begin to explain this. Only thing I can even think of is the dumb Super Saiyan Genes thing, but that's all a load of crap. Manga > Authors Word then? |
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| + Clearin | Jun 17 2012, 08:12 PM Post #27 |
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Well Toriyama is an extremely forgetful man and he doesn't even seem to take this all that seriously. I mean if what he says isn't contradicted then there's no reason to not believe it, but if he says something that fits perfectly in the manga then it must be canon. |
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| Billa | Jun 17 2012, 08:20 PM Post #28 |
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Thala na Gethu!
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Personally, I dont take even Toriyama's words for real. He's well knwn for notorious memory, to the extent he forgot names of some attacks. For me though.. |
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Jun 17 2012, 08:36 PM Post #29 |
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stop trolling, your opinions are NOT facts, nor do you have any proof vegito eats gogeta by that much. all these excuses about toriyama being forgetful is garbage. The man doesnt like answering questions about DBZ, even back then. Its ALL he did. Its annoying. Its more than likely he used to tell people he doesnt remember, because his LIMITED capacity in the invention of the "daizenshuus" is just that, limited. Toriyama drew every single DBZ character, except Tarble i believe. but to claim over and over he has lost his memory to satisfy an argument is no longer acceptable. There is no proof of this, and he has a very sarcastic wit. The potarran fusion provides more power because its efficient. The metamorrans copied the kais not the other way around. The potarra fusion technique isnt based on magic, but science. Like the power rangers, they use magic inventions. The earrings are magic devices that serve one purpose, fusion. Since the fusion is permanent then of course the base for power would be stronger, its deeper. The metamorran is temporary, and im assuming for self defense, like goku said. But there is no proof that vegito is that much more powerful than Gogeta except for some fanboy role playing game you guys have made up. Vegito is only stronger than gogeta because there is no PERCEIVED rival fusion with the dance. But there is no need to assume, since elder kai HIMSELF said that the fusion from goku and vegeta MAKES a rival factor, the earrings dont just do it for everyone. Goku and vegeta are the two strongest in the universe, the other stuff kai said made sense but cant really be proven. The rival power comes from those two NOT the earrings. There is still no reason to have Gogeta even with gohan JUST BECAUSE you like gotenks. Gotenks was weak, and guaranteed the weakest fusion that was thought of. using them was a huge risk, and goku WANTED to fuse with Tien. Goku+vegeta goku +tien goku + gohan All equal in smashing gotenks. Period. So assuming that gogeta needs training when the boys are only as strong as their dads at the cell games is ridiculous to say the least. A logical Fallacy to believe that a being comprised of the same two people in two different ways would be that much more powerful over the other because of some hum bug comment. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Jun 17 2012, 08:50 PM.
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Jun 17 2012, 09:05 PM Post #30 |
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In the end of the day, we cannot clearly say that Vegetto > Gogeta. Why? Because we cannot accurately gauge Super Janemba's powers. Now, I'm all for a debate as to why Vegetto > Gogeta, but given the circumstantial evidence, I can't say that Gogeta > Vegetto. |
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