Super 17 Power Plothole?

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Super 17 Power Plothole?
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~~GridZero~~	Jun 16 2012, 01:23 PM Post #1
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Okay, watching GT, and I came across this. Hell Fighter 17 at 50% ~ Base Vegeta GT So, logically, would SSJ Vegeta ~ Hell Fighter 17 at 100% because of the SSJ Multiplier? And how did Hell Fighter 17 go from Base Vegeta level to >>> a SSJ4 with only the help of Android 17, who is so vastly inferior to anyone in GT that it would take this entire post to fill it with >>>'s?



Pylons	Jun 16 2012, 01:29 PM Post #2
Posts: 1,998 Group: Member Member #7,432 Joined: March 11, 2012	Super 17 is an absorption model android. He absorbed Goku's 10x kamehameha which I'm assuming gave him a massive boost in power, as well as all the other ki blasts Goku shot at him until realizing that Super 17 was absorbing the blasts.
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~~GridZero~~	Jun 16 2012, 01:31 PM Post #3
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Sora Jun 16 2012, 01:29 PM Super 17 is an absorption model android. He absorbed Goku's 10x kamehameha which I'm assuming gave him a massive boost in power, as well as all the other ki blasts Goku shot at him until realizing that Super 17 was absorbing the blasts. Alright, that seems logical, but what about Hell Fighter 17 and the SSJ multiplier?



~~Super Vegetto~~	Jun 16 2012, 01:52 PM Post #4
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	He gets hits from Majoob and he didnt even absorbed anything, until Gohan fires kamehameha. Cell should be > Super 17 ( no absorbations ) going by logic, but this is GT.
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~~GridZero~~	Jun 16 2012, 01:55 PM Post #5
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Logically, Cell should be > Super 17, but the fact remains that Hell Fighter 17 is on par with Base Vegeta. Still....fusing with someone so weak shouldn't make him stronger than Majoob, or even a SSJ2. Fail.



bloodstained euphy	Jun 16 2012, 04:45 PM Post #6
Posts: 842 Group: Member Member #7,357 Joined: February 25, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Code Geas, Dinosaur King, Sword Art Online, One Punch Man, Danganronpa What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Everything related to super 17 is a plothole, we all know that. There's no logic of any kind in it at all Edited by bloodstained euphy, Jun 16 2012, 04:45 PM.



~~GridZero~~	Jun 16 2012, 04:52 PM Post #7
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	bloodstained euphy Jun 16 2012, 04:45 PM Everything related to super 17 is a plothole, we all know that. There's no logic of any kind in it at all Not everything is a plothole, but most of it is. I've compiled a list of unexplainable GT plotholes here. GT Plotholes



Ryuuzaki	Jun 16 2012, 06:31 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,514 Group: Member Member #7,430 Joined: March 11, 2012 Favourite Anime Death Note and Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Death Note and Dragon Ball Z	When Hell Fighter 17 at 50% ~ Base Vegeta GT ?? Base Vegeta = Hell 17 , right ? Anyway , Hell 17 = Base vegeta GT >>>>>>...>>>>> Mr Satan GT > Android 17 By logic , maximum Super 17 can be one pair with SSJ Vegeta , maybe much weaker. By GT logic , Initial Super 17 >>>>> Vegeta SSJ2 GT >> Majuub >> Gohan SSJ2. I have Initial Super 17 10x stronger than Vegeta GT.



DBZNut	Jun 17 2012, 06:58 AM Post #9
Posts: 245 Group: Member Member #7,754 Joined: June 12, 2012 Favourite Anime DB What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DB	GT Logic, That is all
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*Copy_Ninja*	Jun 17 2012, 07:21 AM Post #10
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Kblo247	Jun 17 2012, 07:28 AM Post #11
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Copy_Ninja Jun 17 2012, 07:21 AM In GT, I think that Android 17 had some kind of hidden potential or something that was unlocked during the fusion. I vaguely remember Gero saying something about how he was supposed to be stronger than Cell without the restrictions placed on his power. Yeah Gero basically said that with the help of Muy, he had filled all the gaps in 17s original design thru H17 and that the fused 17s would be uninhibited.



bloodstained euphy	Jun 17 2012, 12:19 PM Post #12
Posts: 842 Group: Member Member #7,357 Joined: February 25, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Code Geas, Dinosaur King, Sword Art Online, One Punch Man, Danganronpa What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Copy_Ninja Jun 17 2012, 07:21 AM In GT, I think that Android 17 had some kind of hidden potential or something that was unlocked during the fusion. I vaguely remember Gero saying something about how he was supposed to be stronger than Cell without the restrictions placed on his power. That's only in Gt, and no proof of it in Z, so that was just a failed attempt to cover up a plothole



~~GridZero~~	Jun 17 2012, 01:45 PM Post #13
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Yeah, that's never really elaborated upon in Z. In fact, it was said that too much emphasis was placed on 17's power, so he was considered a failure for not following orders. It's a plothole, like a lot of things concerning Super 17.



+ Pyrus	Jun 18 2012, 06:06 PM Post #14
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~~GridZero~~	Jun 18 2012, 06:23 PM Post #15
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Darth Pyrus Jun 18 2012, 06:06 PM 50% is a dub line. And the correct line in the Japanese dub? Edited by GridZero, Jun 18 2012, 06:48 PM.



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