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Supreme Kais vs. Movie Villains
Topic Started: Jun 15 2012, 04:30 PM (2,490 Views)
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i forgot about grand kai he did take on and possess kid buu with his own essence.

pretty big feat, im sure he could take out broly then also.

But the others would get stomped.

South kai and grand kai make it through on their own, and fuse to beat janemba.
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Sora
Jun 16 2012, 10:37 PM
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Jun 16 2012, 10:30 PM
South kaioshin cant pull out Z sword, so basicly he cant beat SSJ2 level all alone.

Working like Bojack gang, they cant destroy everyone on the list exept Super Janemba imo.


You don't go punch for punch with Kid Buu and rip Buu's arm off if you're not SS2 level. South Kai faired better against Kid Buu than ss2 Vegeta did and yet he's weaker? South Kai not getting the Z sword is a plot hole. He's atleast stronger then ss2 and at strongest ss3 level without the energy drain. South Kai could take SPC Cell alone in my opinion. Same with Grand Daikaioh.
South kai is stated to be strongest Kaioshin and East Kaioshin the weakest in that time. When that is stated it passed 5mill years where East Kaioshin probably continued training and got stronger for preventing arrival of Majin boo.

This is anime filler and we cant go by filler. SSJ2 Vegeta >> South Kaioshin in manga.
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uh, it was only 300 years ago, where did you get 5 million?

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Super Vegetto
Jun 16 2012, 10:54 PM
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Jun 16 2012, 10:37 PM
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Jun 16 2012, 10:30 PM
South kaioshin cant pull out Z sword, so basicly he cant beat SSJ2 level all alone.

Working like Bojack gang, they cant destroy everyone on the list exept Super Janemba imo.


You don't go punch for punch with Kid Buu and rip Buu's arm off if you're not SS2 level. South Kai faired better against Kid Buu than ss2 Vegeta did and yet he's weaker? South Kai not getting the Z sword is a plot hole. He's atleast stronger then ss2 and at strongest ss3 level without the energy drain. South Kai could take SPC Cell alone in my opinion. Same with Grand Daikaioh.
South kai is stated to be strongest Kaioshin and East Kaioshin the weakest in that time. When that is stated it passed 5mill years where East Kaioshin probably continued training and got stronger for preventing arrival of Majin boo.

This is anime filler and we cant go by filler. SSJ2 Vegeta >> South Kaioshin in manga.
You're saying not to go by filler but you're making assumptions of East Kai training? Buu completely dominated East Kai and ss2 Gohan when he's released on earth and yet South Supreme Kai is suppose to be weaker than them? I'm going by the fights, not assumptions.



Fat Buu knocks Gohan down with 1 punch that leaves him incapacitated for minutes and yet South Supreme Kai, who took punches and kicks from Kid Buu without flinching is weaker?

Fat Buu gets beat up by Kid Buu whereas South Kai holds his own against Kid Buu?



Going by logic of Kid Buu>Fat Buu>ss2 Gohan than South Supreme Kai is >ss2.
Edited by Pylons, Jun 16 2012, 11:28 PM.
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Ninjajp247 : i heard someone saying that so i just writed xD.

Sora : Not realy talking about him training, i just say how non of Kaioshins could pull out Z sword because they were to weak.

Filler doesnt prove anything if Gohan has enough power to pull out Z sword, yet its Vegeta > Gohan. So logicly its :

Vegeta > Gohan > South Kaioshin going by manga, but going by filler its South Kaioshin > Mystic Gohan because Goku can own Gohan and Vegeta can own SSJ3 Gotenks without problems,yet Vegeta cant do anything to Kid boo.
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I'd like to say that I have Kaioshin at Android 16 level, so he's probably oneshotted by Movie 8 Broly.
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Logically based on everything except South Supreme Kai not pulling out the z sword South Supreme Kai > SS2 Vegeta and Gohan. Your whole argument is based on the South Supreme Kai not doing something, pulling out the z sword. Did you ever think that perhaps its a plot hole or recognizing that North Supreme Kai, a skilled swordsman, died to Kid Buu would leave him no chance of finishing Buu with a sword? Everything points to South Supreme Kai being stronger than ss2 Vegeta and Gohan.
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Only filler puts South Kaioshin above Vegeta.



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True.

South KaI can't even pull out the Z Sword.

But most of the Kais are from filler, so...
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Is it even stated that West Kaioshin is female or its Toei ?
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It's Toei, I believe.
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I always just thought you had to be the chosen one to pull out the Z Sword

But maybe that's my Gohan fanboyism.
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Jun 15 2012, 10:34 PM
Let me add a Scenario here.

Scenario 5: Supreme Kais vs. Androids 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20, along with Super Perfect Cell.
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Southern supreme Kai should be able to stomp Super Perfect Cell with ease.
I have Southern supreme kai on SSJ3 Gokus level.

The rest of the Kais should stomp the androids.

So supreme kais should win this imo.
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Kaioshin belive Saiyans are the strongest. Saiyans ( as SSJ2 ) > South Kaioshin. Kaisohin was surprissed by Base Vegeta , so if you read the manga , i guess is stupid to say South Kaioshin > Vegeta SSJ2 or Gohan SSJ2.
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In the manga, not every Kaioshin/Shin-jin tried to release the Z-Sword, and East Kaioshin made it seem as if South Kaioshin wasn't easily defeated; So, presumably, he didn't try, as their probably wasn't a need to try :) .

In the anime, every Kaioshin tried, and yet South Kaioshin would actually able to fight Boo :D .

So Anime South Kaioshin must have gotten stronger between trying to release the Z-Sword and fighting Boo :rofl: .

Closed case is closed.
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