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Grey Boo vs. SSJ3 Goku
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 01:33 AM (1,074 Views)
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If Good Boo is 40% of Fat Boo, you use the most official SSj3 multiplier we have [4x SSj2], then you would need to have SSj3 Goku 1.5x Fat Boo just for Good Boo to be equal to SSj2 Goku, and 1.5x alone is ridiculously large gap.
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These should be the smallest numbers tolerated for advantages and overpowers; using differences less than these are probably intolerable.[/font]

If a fighter is < ~[%] of my power...then ...
< 94%I completely overpower the fighter. I shouldn't take damage.
94%I hold a power advantage. The fighter has to focus to fight at my pace.
100%we'd fight evenly despite my higher power.
106%we'd fight evenly despite the fighter's higher power
> 106%I have to fight harder than the fighter just to keep pace.
>> 106%I have little to no chance of victory, barring I exceed my limits.

These are the largest numbers required for advantages and overpowers; using differences more than this are unnecessary.

If a fighter is < ~[%] of my power...then ...
75%I completely overpower the fighter. I shouldn't take damage.
89%I hold a power advantage. The fighter has to focus to fight at my pace.
100%we'd fight evenly despite my higher power.
113%we'd fight evenly despite the fighter's higher power
134%I have to fight harder than the fighter just to keep pace.
> 134%I have little to no chance of victory, barring I exceed my limits.
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If Pure Evil Boo is 6 to Pure Good Boo's 4, then Pure Evil Boo is 1.5x Pure Good Boo, which as I said, is ridiculously over the top gap. From Kiwi vs Vegeta, we see that Vegeta being 1.33x Kiwi [24000:18000] is enough for a ridiculous stomp. So Pure Evil Boo is easily 60% of Fat Boo. Heck, if anything, he's less, with 1.5x being such a big gapp between him and Pure Good Boo. We know Pure Evil Boo was much stronger, but he was actually trying.
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Weskur
Jun 14 2012, 02:02 AM
I might get eaten up again, well I'm one of those that believe Kid Buu wasn't trying much. I don't wanna turn this into a Kid Buu VS Super Buu debate lol I'm just saying I find it hard to believe that after losing all that power, Good Buu was still more powerful than a SSJ2?
Why not? Fat Boo was a god compared to Majin Vegeta. Even half of his power would be around twice as powerful as Majin Vegeta using the official multipliers.

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I can't take Skinny Boo seriously. He may be more than half of Fat Boo's power, but Fat Boo was below Goku enough that Goku said he definitely could've beaten him. If Goku could definitely have beaten a stronger Boo, there's no way he'd lose to a weaker Boo. Even with regeneration and near limitless stamina, I don't think he would pose Goku any trouble, honestly.
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Is the gap between Good Boo and SSJ3 Goku that wide?

Like I said, Good Boo should be in stomping territory of any SSJ2.

SSJ3 Multiplier is x4 SSJ2?

Grey Boo is multifolds above Good Boo who is multifolds above even the strongest SSJ2. I don't think Grey Boo would win, but fair match? I say yes.
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I don't know exactly how big the gap actual is. But can you believe that Grey Boo can beat someone who was sure about beating he's full powered counterpart(Fat Boo).

I see how your seeing it with the regeneration but I disagree about him not getting tired as we saw Good Boo got beated up and tired with he's fight with Kid Buu.
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I think it's implied that when a Boo fights another Boo, they can get hurt, and die.

In any other case, it's infinite stamina.

Just like when SSJ3 Goku fought Kid Boo, and Fat Boo. Also when Majin Vegeta fought Fat Boo.
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"When it's Boo against Boo... they can take damage."

So pretty much what you said, Grid. [I was quoting that from the top of my head BTW, but that should more or less be the exact wording]
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Yep, I remember Vegeta saying it.

He also says ''That fat one is near death'' referring to Kid Boo stomping Good Boo.
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@Son Gohan I understand what your saying, but my thing is it doesn't go with AT's statement that Evil Buu attained the majority of the power. I'm not saying 60% is not reasonable when you look at the numbers, but it contradicts the statements made in the manga, unless you believe a 60% means the majority, which in a way it is. If you have 60% of the cake then you do have the majority of the cake but in this case AT made it seem like Evil Buu got way more than just 60%. Seriously, I don't think AT planned out exactly how much power he got, isn't that one of the reasons why he eliminated PLs?

@Darth Pyrus Lol a god? Yeah Buu really messed Vegeta up it's hard to determine the gap, but we know no matter who the opponent is, Buu's ki wont go down.
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Jun 14 2012, 02:19 AM
I think it's implied that when a Boo fights another Boo, they can get hurt, and die.

In any other case, it's infinite stamina.

Just like when SSJ3 Goku fought Kid Boo, and Fat Boo. Also when Majin Vegeta fought Fat Boo.


It still doesn't matter. How fast does he's stamina replenish? If we established in the manga that SSJ3 Goku > Fat Buu. How does it make sense

Also how come SSJ3 Goku loses stamina isn't that only on earth? What if this is on Afterlife how does the fight go then?
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His stamina doesn't drop, ever. Same with his chi.

I'm willing to bet that Goku can only beat Boo with a huge kamehameha, like with SSJ2 Gohan and Cell.

Cell could regenerate from his core, similar to Boo.
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Jun 14 2012, 02:37 AM
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Jun 14 2012, 02:19 AM
I think it's implied that when a Boo fights another Boo, they can get hurt, and die.

In any other case, it's infinite stamina.

Just like when SSJ3 Goku fought Kid Boo, and Fat Boo. Also when Majin Vegeta fought Fat Boo.


It still doesn't matter. How fast does he's stamina replenish? If we established in the manga that SSJ3 Goku > Fat Buu. How does it make sense

Also how come SSJ3 Goku loses stamina isn't that only on earth? What if this is on Afterlife how does the fight go then?
His stamina does not fall at all. You never heard of a case that his power dropped, etc.
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Jun 14 2012, 02:42 AM
His stamina doesn't drop, ever. Same with his chi.

I'm willing to bet that Goku can only beat Boo with a huge kamehameha, like with SSJ2 Gohan and Cell.

Cell could regenerate from his core, similar to Boo.
I doubt that. Buu came back even from smoke when Gotenks and Piccolo destroyed all of Buu's pieces. I seriously doubt no matter how strong they were, they couldn't kill Buu with any normal attack, especially Kid Buu.
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Jun 14 2012, 02:02 AM
I might get eaten up again, well I'm one of those that believe Kid Buu wasn't trying much. I don't wanna turn this into a Kid Buu VS Super Buu debate lol I'm just saying I find it hard to believe that after losing all that power, Good Buu was still more powerful than a SSJ2?
I agree that Kid Buu was just fooling around with SSJ3 Goku. Still though, I'd put SSJ3 Goku slightly > Grey Boo.
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Jun 14 2012, 03:07 AM
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Jun 14 2012, 02:42 AM
His stamina doesn't drop, ever. Same with his chi.

I'm willing to bet that Goku can only beat Boo with a huge kamehameha, like with SSJ2 Gohan and Cell.

Cell could regenerate from his core, similar to Boo.
I doubt that. Buu came back even from smoke when Gotenks and Piccolo destroyed all of Buu's pieces. I seriously doubt no matter how strong they were, they couldn't kill Buu with any normal attack, especially Kid Buu.
I think we've been over this before, and I pointed out that Piccolo stated they didn't do it correctly, hence why Boo was able to come back.
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Piccolo didn't say they did it wrong, he said they should have destroyed the pieces with ki blast, which they did, and destroyed the door. I mean it's clearly shown Buu with no mortal being absorbed was almost immortal. We can clearly see when Vegetto punched Buuhan on his nose he bled for the first time. Vegetto makes this clear by stating he was better off when he didn't have a nose. So he only bled after absorbing mortals, and without them this Buu was almost impossible to destroy.
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