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| Another Base Goku (EoZ) Problem | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 12 2012, 01:47 PM (1,757 Views) | |
| + Clearin | Jun 12 2012, 07:43 PM Post #16 |
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Toriyama doesn't really make logic a top priority in case you didn't notice. Power gains in DBZ are never consistent, we have stuff like Goku going from 10 to 416 in 12 years and then to over 8,000 in just about 6 months (That's roughly 19 times stronger in just 6 months btw, now make that 10 years and see what you get). Piccolo gets a huge gain in the Android arc, Gotenks gets a huge gain in the RoSaT in just a single week or two. There really is no consistency here. |
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Jun 12 2012, 07:44 PM Post #17 |
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Now someone will post. Goku is forbidden to go SSJ. |
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| + Clearin | Jun 12 2012, 07:46 PM Post #18 |
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He would have fun because he didn't turn Super Saiyan... No matter how strong Uub really is the fact remains that he's only about as strong as Goku's base, he could be as strong as Freeza or Kid Buu but in the end he's still equal to base Goku, and Goku wouldn't turn Super Saiyan to ruin his chance for a good fight. Being on Kid Buu's level has nothing to do with Goku not turning Super Saiyan. |
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Jun 12 2012, 07:46 PM Post #19 |
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@TGZ: True. Very true, and I'll give you that. But this entire SSJ3 Goku ~ Base Goku thing is more implied than engraved during the last chapters of DBZ. There are hints to it, but nothing directly pointing towards it like Piccolo stomping Android 20, or Gohan surpassing his Father and Cell. @Super Vegetto: The SSJ rule at EoZ is a joke, and unfounded. Prove me wrong. Edit:
So Goku is going to set expectations and wait for 10 years to fight a guy that might not even be equal to his Base form? How is that fun at all, given his statements towards Oob? Edited by GridZero, Jun 12 2012, 07:51 PM.
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| + Clearin | Jun 12 2012, 07:54 PM Post #20 |
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I guess? He did wait 10 years just to fight someone who was equal to his base form, that's exactly what happened in the manga, we don't need to know Uub or Goku's exact power to know that Goku stated that he wanted to fight Uub and that he did so without turning Super Saiyan. In the end Goku wanting to fight Uub really has no affect on powers though. I mean: Uub = Kid Buu = Goku's base form If Goku turned Super Saiyan he'd stomp Uub Uub = Cell = Goku's base form IIf Goku turned Super Saiyan he'd stomp Uub Uub = Freeza = Goku's base form If Goku turned Super Saiyan he'd stomp Uub See no matter how strong you place Uub (And by default base Goku) Goku turning Super Saiyan would be boring for Goku. |
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Jun 12 2012, 08:01 PM Post #21 |
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I'd agree with this, but then it contradicts what Goku said about Oob. He said Oob himself might win the tournament. That means that Oob ~ Kid Boo > Base Goku, if he doesn't turn SSJ to spoil the fun. |
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Jun 12 2012, 10:25 PM Post #22 |
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I'm coming in this thread and not reading ***** O w O Goku getting so strong in 10 years is not too unrealistic He'd only have to get 1.82 x stronger every year, give or take some decimals. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Jun 12 2012, 10:32 PM Post #23 |
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Popcorn
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Well for goku to be equal to his base he would need to get 40x each year Which is 400x stronger overall |
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Jun 12 2012, 10:46 PM Post #24 |
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Can someone clarify something for me? How much would one day in Otherworld equate to in days on Earth? Same? Or different? I remember hearing time passes slower in Otherworld as compared to Earth, but I'm not sure. |
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Jun 12 2012, 11:45 PM Post #25 |
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Nope. 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 x 40 = 10 485 760 000 000 000 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 x 1.82 = 398.76.... Exponents, not multiplication. 40 x 10 = 400, but 40 ^ 10 = 10485760000000000. Goku is getting stronger by a certain number each year, so you multiply his PL by 1.82 and multipliy that by 1.82 and multiply that by 1.82.... Grid, pretty sure there's no difference in time with Other World and Mortal World. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Jun 12 2012, 11:48 PM.
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Jun 12 2012, 11:56 PM Post #26 |
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My bad i was never good at math Anyways so its possible for goku to be stronger the. Ssj3 in base and then some by a bit wow Oh and im not sure grid zero I thought i saw or read that somehwere as well |
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| SSJ JJ | Jun 13 2012, 08:11 PM Post #27 |
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I don't think Uub was at Kid Buu's level.. I think he was stronger enraged than base Trunks, Gohan and Goten but no really that close to Goku.. I mean he couldn't fly, nor use energy blasts.. I thinks he's strong but his potential hasn't been reached... And btw.. The time between the end of the buu saga to the end of Z was 5 years.. Which is when he first fought Uub.. Edited by SSJ JJ, Jun 13 2012, 08:14 PM.
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Tell me Kakorot, Is it slavery when you get what you want? The Dark Prince returns | |
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| manley0702 | Jun 13 2012, 08:16 PM Post #28 |
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It is certainly excessive. I have Mystic Gohan in Buu Saga 400,000,000. Goku SSJ3 EOZ would be around 500,000,000. Edited by manley0702, Jun 13 2012, 08:17 PM.
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