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Super Saiyan Genes?
Topic Started: Jun 10 2012, 04:14 PM (1,720 Views)
GridZero
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Exactly what are Super Saiyan Genes? Is there any proof they exist?

(Super Saiyan Genes = Reason why Goten/Trunks have so much power)
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The theory isn't that there's specific genes that get passed down or anything, it's just that Goku and Vegeta's access to the transformation at the time they were conceived (if Vegeta had it at the time and that is a big if) makes the boys more genetically suited to it and makes it easier for them to transform. There's no proof of it but then there's absolutely no discussion in universe of just why two boys who have barely trained have access to such power. They just do and we have to accept it. I think it's as good a theory as any personally.
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Super saiyan genes from Vegeta and Goku is reason kids have SSJ forms.
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GridZero
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Thanks, you two.

That seems like the most logical explanation for those kids powers.
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Yeah that pretty much sums it up. Being how strong Vegeta and Goku were one can assume they had a lot of dominant genes especially since Pan at the Eoz had so much power as a 4 year old.
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mystickaioken
Jun 10 2012, 09:25 PM
Yeah that pretty much sums it up. Being how strong Vegeta and Goku were one can assume they had a lot of dominant genes especially since Pan at the Eoz had so much power as a 4 year old.
Pan in EoZ is weak imo.
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Pan at EoZ should be considerably weak.

Mystic Genes don't exist, not to mention they don't make sense, and we don't know if the SSJ in Gohan still exists officially, right?
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Pookie Powa!

Here is a question for you all which I need to ask because we are talking about super saiyan genes. If the fact that those kids can achieve a super saiyan level because of their fathers, then how come there were no super saiyans that existed before Goku and Vegeta?

Vegeta discussed about a super saiyan of legend so that must have meant that there must have been a super saiyan sometime in the history of the saiyan race. I'm not saying their was a super saiyan in the past that had a baby, but it is very possible with the way that the saiyans treated their children.

If that is the case, why does it seem like none of the saiyans were able to achieve super saiyan if those genes were passed down?

I think being part human may have something to do with the fact that they can transform so easily. Lets just add GT in here for a second. You see Goku jr. and Vegeta jr. They must be only 12-15% saiyan and they were able to transform into a super saiyan. If this is the case, why were there no super saiyans before Goku and Vegeta. The gene had to be passed down in some way, shape, or form.

I'm not going to discuss Pan and Bra here because there is no point. We know their were no super saiyan females in the show because that is just how the women were treated in dbz so it's why I didn't bother discussing it.
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He didnt have children or couldnt have. Thats why its called SSJ of legend.

Btw non of saiyans posesed power neaded for transformation, until Frieza saga.

Gt doesnt matter. They didnt have concept design for Pan so they didnt make her SSJ even after having many chances to transform her.

Or that about GT Pan is wrong. Dont know, maybe its right. Well who cares, GT sucks.
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Yeah, exactly, GT sucks, so whatever.

Back on topic, I think it's a plot device.

Goku is supposed to be the first real SSJ, so elaborating on genes being passed down, and a SSJ before Goku was probably pointless.
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Pookie Powa!

Okay that makes sense in some ways, but Vegeta heard plenty about the saiyan of legend so there had to be traces of it in the genes. If we are talking about genes, then how did any of the saiyans of the past ever manage to be the "super saiyan of the legend" if they were not strong enough to transform?

I know GT sucks, but why would they add these parts then? So you're saying that Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. had enough strength to turn super saiyan? I highly doubt either of them could take on a full blooded saiyan. Goku Jr. seemed like had difficulty beating up those monsters in the movie.
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Pookie
Jun 11 2012, 01:43 AM
Okay that makes sense in some ways, but Vegeta heard plenty about the saiyan of legend so there had to be traces of it in the genes. If we are talking about genes, then how did any of the saiyans of the past ever manage to be the "super saiyan of the legend" if they were not strong enough to transform?

I know GT sucks, but why would they add these parts then? So you're saying that Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. had enough strength to turn super saiyan? I highly doubt either of them could take on a full blooded saiyan. Goku Jr. seemed like had difficulty beating up those monsters in the movie.
Super saiyan of legend is born strong just like Broly. As a kid he probably had enough power to go SSJ.

Well they could simply copy Vegetas head and put it on Vegeta jr and Kid Goku GT head on Goku juniro.

Yea less saiyan blood = getting beating by pure saiyan.

First generation of Hybrids are suposed to be strongest sayians : Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Bra.
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Pookie Powa!

Well thanks for that information. It still doesn't make sense to me how randomly a super saiyan of legend could be born if both parents aren't capable of doing it themselves. I know Goku wasn't able to when he had Gohan, but they worked towards it. A saiyan like Broly was born randomly and transformed while his father was unable too. I guess that's why it was just a movie.
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Not realy. Gohan didnt got dorment powers from anyone which is the reason he dont nead to have strong parents to poses inner powers.

Something like in real life. Cristiano Ronaldo can have son that play football but not good like him. Sometimes it goes from parent and sometimes Child > Parent.
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