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Gender Roles in Society
Topic Started: Jun 9 2012, 04:53 AM (2,535 Views)
Paikuan extreme
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yahweh is referred to as he.

Allah is as well.

there is no point in refuting facts with opinions.

sexism exists because of this. A direct result of either type of society prevalent where you live.
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Well, if the monotheistic "male god" religions caused so much sexism, then why did female Pharaohs of the Ancient Egyptian culture have to be portrayed as men constantly? They had a pretty varied pantheon (I mean, most of them weren't even human. You don't see diversity like that today.) And still, the very first female Pharaoh was always represented to look, but not be, male. She never pretended to be a man, she just absolutely had to appear to be another male Pharaoh to the populace or they would reject her.
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there are NO such things as female pharoahs, there were plenty of queens of egypt, but even the MALE gods of that pantheon RULED ALL. Female/male pharoah? you need to cite names and sources if you please.

i just used the greek pantheon because they arent god specific.

They can worship ANy of the gods they please without recognizing any of the others, and they did.

Sexism has a huge basis in supposed "orders" of society, but like i said, and what better example for BRED sexism IS there than the catholic sect? as a former catholic i can attest to this personally.

an almost promoted and bred DISTRUST of females, and the lowering of their status in the home. Hunter/ gatherer

homemaker/ cook its a male female dynamic. Its such a simple formula that it can only be blamed on nature.

mans first rules of law were made up based on simple instinct.

Once reason set in , we started having intelligent thought come up with things like the ten commandments, which to this DAY is a doctrine ANYONE can live by, and not be a christian. Just saying.

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What? You wannah peace of me?

Well in religion male and female all worship the same way in the worshiping grounds except women cant lead the prayers like rabbi's preist's or imams they are all males unfortunate for the other sex right/

But in mongolia in the past women would sometimes be the head of the house or tribe when there isn't a strong male leader in the tribe or house what about all the strong women in vietnams past?
sometimes women take on jobs men cant handle or when a egyptian queen ruled all of egypt by herself she was much stronger than cleopatra in leadership that people idolised her to be a man :p

And i do agree because christianity blames eve for being kicked out of garden of eden because she is a women who led adam to disarray and i know this sounds a bit harsh.
Since i am not backing religion doesn't mean i am against it. xD :cool:
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This is about equality in the sexes and why its pretty much impossible to exist.

Some instances like provided are natural, MOST of them are man made.
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I heard ya friend since women don't stand out as men do in modern time and history which created the word man made :cool: or mankind because a man made it and a man works for the survival of his family/people ^^ and i am afraid the battle of the sexes will never end because this topic is far older than me and maby you :p
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if this topic WASNT older than me, then i would have probably been involved in the original conversation. :p

get on my level :D
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Come to think about it i wonder how the battle of sexes begun? If women in the past done more or somewere in the stone age the women started complaining why they are always in hut or not aloud to go on dangerous hunting games. But women did contribute allot in hunting games then how did this begun? I asked my father which one was better he replied "Women" i then asked why he said that,ask your mother (N.O1 feminist) he whispered he said i will find out when i am older xD he knows i am still puzzled but in allot of ways my dad does make the most sense(equal parents)
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What? You wannah peace of me?

After all us men are just saiyen :cool: if you are a guy that is ^^
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The hunter gathere role depended on the tribe so to speak, and their beliefs.

want ambiguity in nature? look at lions, the females hunt all day and bring it home to the king who doesnt even watch the kids.

So being a hunter gatherer is a role anyone can take. Thats a man made rule.
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It is funny that i am still debating on something i don't know about since i think women are equal to men in everyday life in some areas ,some jobs are better off a mans job some jobs are better off lady's job that comes to an equal level of jobs but i yet to learn the equality of sexes since i don't look into it as much and that is the reason why i feel like an idiot xD when i post on topics like this but the reason i still do it is because i want to have my say on things and opinions that are stuck on this forever growing ball of muscle in our head's :P
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societies are created by a group of people who think alike and like living by those rules.

In some cultures women are less than nothing, a piece of property, in others only women can be rulers.

Its all up to people how they want to live, most of the time between two people? they decide who "wears the pants" not society.

But societies doctrines arent to be exploited according to th majority.

Look at gay marriage, the hardcore die hard christians use a man and a woman for being two domestic life partners.

is it because one of the men takes the role of the "woman" that makes it unacceptable?

who knows, but its between them HOW they choose to live.

man made rules have destroyed this world as a whole, but survives because some people like to change the rules.

Both my daughters mother and i work, she does work for the mariners.

WE decided that in todays world it was impractical to be stupid and live off of ONE persons income to survive.

She has a friend who is in a relationship thats the exact opposite.

her and her man live traditionally, thats how they like it.

personally i think its ridiculous, but it makes the world go round.

in more ways than one i can name how women are equal and or superior in most things, but then again, if there werent MEANT to be any differences? there wouldnt be.

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What? You wannah peace of me?

Oh i get it know so it isn't just society it's the preference of the couple on who wears the pants or some work equally i have a job my wife as a job and we like it we make more money that way working as a team on the house hold funds,thanks foor quick lesson friend :cool:
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I wouldn't call it unequal, but I do believe men and women have forgotten their roles. Both want to make money, and ok that's fine with me but then that's where a lot of problems starts. Who's going to take care of the kids? Oh let's get a Nanny and record her every move, so you have some one else take care of your kids. Pick a role, and play it, that simple. I want to be responsible for my own family, I don't want to hire someone to take care of my kids unless it really has to be done.
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i work nights mostly and she works during the day and sometimes night, so it works for us just fine. family looks after jaina when were both gone. jaina is my daughter.
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