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Gender Roles in Society
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 9 2012, 04:53 AM (2,536 Views)
+ Green	Jul 12 2012, 01:28 AM Post #16
Flashy Thing! Posts: 5,436 Group: Legend Member #1,181 Joined: February 25, 2006 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Fire fox Favourite Manga Gantz	I didn't know about that either. Is it because men feel the need to protect women and are putting themselves in harms way or is it because women lack the physical ability to perform in the field and men as a result have to pick up their slack?
	Don't you ever worry that you're on the Devil's side without even knowing it? - DCI John Luther Black power ranger; I do not belong... B.o.B - Mr. Mister


~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Jul 12 2012, 01:31 AM Post #17
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Agent.G Jul 12 2012, 01:28 AM I didn't know about that either. Is it because men feel the need to protect women and are putting themselves in harms way or is it because women lack the physical ability to perform in the field and men as a result have to pick up their slack? Both are factors, I believe.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jul 12 2012, 01:40 AM Post #18
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	ObsessiveFanGirl Jun 9 2012, 04:53 AM What are your views on genders in society and marriage? Do you think they are equal, or should men still be considered superior? I see men and women as equals. We are equally capable of learning, and our thought processes are generally the same. While men are usually considered the more physical of the two, that is not always the case. I do not believe that one gender should be considered superior to the other; however, I do believe that certain jobs are better suited for a man or a woman. For example, women (in general, because this is obviously not always the case) are better suited for caring for children, whereas men are better suited for taking care of the family. Of course, this is never set in stone, but I do believe that it is how we were designed; therefore, it is default. I believe that the responsibilities of marriage should be equal. Even though women generally are designed as care-givers, men are just as capable of raising their children. In my ideal marriage, the housework and other responsibilities (taxes, etc.) would be divided. Feminism nowadays seems to be moot. Females have already progressed so much in society; they are now given benefits over men in some areas, such as scholarships, job opportunities, etc., and yet I still hear women complaining about how they are "mistreated by society." Is that really the case? This is interesting. The conquered become the conquerers huh? it seems to be the way of people, give em an inch and they want a mile. I think this will all blow over when the feeling of entitlement stops and people actually feel like they have an equal opportunity to succeed. Until then? all we can do is our own parts. when people come together they make the decisions together and they know that. if they want to feel like someone has to be in charge then they establish that also.



+ Pyrus	Jul 12 2012, 01:52 AM Post #19
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Agent.G Jul 12 2012, 01:28 AM I didn't know about that either. Is it because men feel the need to protect women and are putting themselves in harms way or is it because women lack the physical ability to perform in the field and men as a result have to pick up their slack? The first factor is brought up in this article, and the second is brought up in this one. There's also a sexual factor brought up here, although the article is a few years old now. Their roles are expanding, but they're still barred from ground combat infantry nonetheless.
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+ Green	Jul 12 2012, 11:36 AM Post #20
Flashy Thing! Posts: 5,436 Group: Legend Member #1,181 Joined: February 25, 2006 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Fire fox Favourite Manga Gantz	Those articles don't have any scientific proof of women causing more "harm than good on the battlefield". They have to add bathrooms for women...wow tough stuff. We're currently in a cultural shift and not allowing women on the battlefield because some guy wants to play savior will only help to prevent women from gaining equal status to me. Right now women are seen as fragile and If someone risks their life because of this flawed thought, then it's unfortunate for the. Soldiers are basically saying "Nooo!!! A woman can't handle this. So let me. A man, handle this".
	Don't you ever worry that you're on the Devil's side without even knowing it? - DCI John Luther Black power ranger; I do not belong... B.o.B - Mr. Mister


* Yu Narukami	Jul 12 2012, 11:44 AM Post #21
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	The idea of women causing more harm than good on the battlefield is entirely false. Adds no detriments than perhaps having to create separate barracks and such. Who cares if men want to feel as though they're protecting women? It's entirely logical. Women soldiers contribute lots to war efforts, and I'm sure Governments would be complaining about soldier shortages if women weren't allowed in the army. The whole idea is a complete misconception, I've seen no true facts that totally prove this ridiculous suggestion.



Naruto-Gogeta	Jul 12 2012, 01:56 PM Post #22
Omega Shenron Posts: 2,890 Group: Member Member #5,370 Joined: October 30, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Raitingu Jul 11 2012, 10:08 PM Naruto-Gogeta Jul 11 2012, 09:26 PM No man or woman is equal. We don't think the same at all. All women are inferior to men in certain things, and vice versa. This ridiculous idea of equality makes no sense to me. Nobody is equal. Nobody. Why do you think it doesn't make any sense? I agree that on certain things women do better and men in other things. Does this though mean that it should dictate rights men have over women? In most of the world women are seen as second class citizens. If you believe no one is equal than could it be said someone one's rights over you? It's that same idea that made many a men slaves to another. That's false when you state most of the world women are seen as second class citizens, and you took what I said completely out of context. I'm not talking about rights, I think we should have equal rights 100%. But we're talking about roles in society, in which some women are superior to men in other areas and vice versa. In most of the first world women are paid equally to men, and if you hadn't noticed, usually get the children in a divorce. You're talking about the rights we deserve, I'm not. I think a blind and deaf person should get the same rights I do, and even more to compensate for his disabilities, but it's naive to think we're equal. He won't be able to work, or contribute to society the way I could. Edited by Naruto-Gogeta, Jul 12 2012, 01:58 PM.
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Jonnoley	Jul 12 2012, 06:10 PM Post #23
Posts: 176 Group: Member Member #3,988 Joined: February 16, 2009	Naruto-Gogeta In most of the first world women are paid equally to men, and if you hadn't noticed, usually get the children in a divorce. This isn't true, women are still behind in pretty much every aspect of employment, from wages to promotions. But yeah, gender roles are, or at least should be, a doomed concept. Men and women should have equal rights in every aspect of life, and as time goes on, more and more people find themselves as being more masculine/feminine than their gender typically is, so we may well end up with families where the mother spends all day welding (or other "manly" jobs, masculinity isn't exactly my strong point," and the father could be a stay-at-home dad. Or some other gender-typical situation which will be reversed. And I strongly agree with most of the views on feminism voiced here, as a concept, it, like all equality movements, is one of the greatest ideas ever created, but just in the last decade or so, it's really begun to fall flat practically. Especially the typical teenage "feminist" who has no idea of the actual issues faced by women, or the even more typical stand-up comedy favourite of "man-hating" feminist that is just blind to reality. Sometimes those groups come off as more "Woman are and should be superior" than "gender equality is good." I once heard someone dismiss the inequalities in child custody (so heavily in the favour of the mother that sometimes a child is given back to her abusive mother,) because it wasn't as severe as the problems women faced a century ago.



lunar2	Jul 12 2012, 08:25 PM Post #24
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	@military. a woman can't function at the same level in infantry as a man. it's a matter of physical strength and endurance. women have to carry the same weight of gear as a man, but have much less muscle mass to support that weight of gear. in an emergency situation, most male soldiers are strong enough that if they need to, they can carry each other out of harm's way, while most women do not have the strength necessary to carry a full grown man in combat gear. should women be allowed in combat situations? sure. they already are, as drivers, gunners, and pilots. in fact, there is now a submarine with an entirely female crew, because women are smaller and therefore require less food/air/space than men. should women be allowed in infantry? not unless they can meet certain physical requirements, which very few women are even capable of meeting, no matter what training they go through. they simply aren't big enough to support the muscle mass necessary to do the job.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


Naruto-Gogeta	Jul 12 2012, 08:52 PM Post #25
Omega Shenron Posts: 2,890 Group: Member Member #5,370 Joined: October 30, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	lunar2 Jul 12 2012, 08:25 PM @military. a woman can't function at the same level in infantry as a man. it's a matter of physical strength and endurance. women have to carry the same weight of gear as a man, but have much less muscle mass to support that weight of gear. in an emergency situation, most male soldiers are strong enough that if they need to, they can carry each other out of harm's way, while most women do not have the strength necessary to carry a full grown man in combat gear. should women be allowed in combat situations? sure. they already are, as drivers, gunners, and pilots. in fact, there is now a submarine with an entirely female crew, because women are smaller and therefore require less food/air/space than men. should women be allowed in infantry? not unless they can meet certain physical requirements, which very few women are even capable of meeting, no matter what training they go through. they simply aren't big enough to support the muscle mass necessary to do the job. This is what I mean when I say "equality" is ridiculous. Good post. Nobody on Earth are equal. We deserve equal rights but we are all superior to each other in certain areas.
	The blonde girl with the black lips turned to Valkyrie. "We know," she said. "We've seen the future. We know you're going to kill the world..." Release it Gohan! Release everything! Remember all the pain he's caused... The people he's hurt... NOW MAKE THAT YOUR POWER!!!! JOIN MY BOXING FORUM NOW! http://s4.zetaboards.com/Boxing_Forum/index/


~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jul 13 2012, 03:34 AM Post #26
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	yeah im riding with Ng and lunar on this one. some things are decided by nature. this isnt a discussion about rights, we ALL deserve equal rights. To be considered equal is something humans have to prove to one another. Not every athlete has the same capacity, we dont even imagine superheros being the same super strength when they are ALL stronger than us. its only normal to assume some things, but a stereotype will make people look the fool everytime as the excuse to the rule becomes more and more frequent. People learn as a whole, but some individuals compared to others just cant do certain things. and unfortunately for women not many of them have the ability to produce testosterone on a much needed massive muscle building level. not that all men have it either, but...majority obviosuly rules on this matter. As for brains? that fits in with having rights, wayyy to many women throughout history have proven they are just as smart or smarter than most men. As most men have proven the vice versa against women. So in that case its just natural selection. Some people just have the ability to process information faster than others and use that in daily life applications. Does not knowing everything mean ur dumb? yeah, it means that just as much as knowing everything makes you smart. Both of them ridiculous assumptions. Walls put up by those who try to prove one group is better than another instead of improving as a whole. Narcissism is the catalyst for most of the topics in the world today.



bloodstained euphy	Jul 13 2012, 04:30 PM Post #27
Posts: 842 Group: Member Member #7,357 Joined: February 25, 2012 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Code Geas, Dinosaur King, Sword Art Online, One Punch Man, Danganronpa What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	I don't see why gender is playing roles in society at all...



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jul 13 2012, 06:04 PM Post #28
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Im not surprised at all, according to world history there are MORe than enough ancient cultures of this world that were ran with a matriarchal fist of iron. others are patriarchal. Im gonna have to partly blame religion on this one. The major ones in operation today, have people praying to a god thats supposed to be a guy, and all societies that follow this concept seem to fall under the same banner. christians, Muslims, and the jewish faith are all patriarchal religions, therefore the people that adhere to those rules accept them. In their bibles the men and women have accepted that the men are in charge, its true. Now if you were praying to the greek pantheon then you had your choice of women deities t oworship and live by matriarchal rules. Like the amazon women warrior tribe. some people just need a doctrine to live by whether good or bad, but it remains a choice. otherwise as people men and women have each proven themselves more than capable.



lunar2	Jul 13 2012, 06:53 PM Post #29
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	bloodstained euphy Jul 13 2012, 04:30 PM I don't see why gender is playing roles in society at all... because men and women are different. men are stronger, and so are better suited for jobs that require physical strength (construction, for example). women are smaller, and therefore are better suited to jobs that require gettting into tight spaces (say, plumbing). men are ~~better~~ faster at spacial recognition, and so are better suited to jobs that use a lot of geometry (architiecture). women are ~~better~~ faster at calculation, and so are better suited to jobs that work with raw numbers (accounting). the list goes on and on. each gender has certain advantages over the other, and so are better suited to certain tasks. as long as gender differences exist, gender roles would exist. and do you really want women to be the exact same as men, or vice versa? yuck.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


MrTsoi	Jul 13 2012, 07:44 PM Post #30
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	lunar2 Jul 13 2012, 06:53 PM bloodstained euphy Jul 13 2012, 04:30 PM I don't see why gender is playing roles in society at all... because men and women are different. men are stronger, and so are better suited for jobs that require physical strength (construction, for example). women are smaller, and therefore are better suited to jobs that require gettting into tight spaces (say, plumbing). men are ~~better~~ faster at spacial recognition, and so are better suited to jobs that use a lot of geometry (architiecture). women are ~~better~~ faster at calculation, and so are better suited to jobs that work with raw numbers (accounting). the list goes on and on. each gender has certain advantages over the other, and so are better suited to certain tasks. as long as gender differences exist, gender roles would exist. and do you really want women to be the exact same as men, or vice versa? yuck. Yeah in the military and other jobs that require raw strength and full on force and running with gear stacked on you,ever heard in the military "never send a women on a mans job" pretty much means on the physical side men do better in those kind of jobs but this dose not mean women are useless in the field or line of defense some women make it out of there way to become good generals or commanders and military adviser's. In other jobs women fair equally as men but then it comes down to the respect they receive from work sure we hear&see women get less "wages" than the average male witch i believe is totally unfair but women get to hold custody of the children after divorce because mother knows best i cant explain it good in english :P but children need a father type somebody you will look up to somebody who won't nag you as much as the mom does sometimes. religion has little taint on sexism but has increased the level of sexism from that point in history not that dramatically i think jews dont believe god to have a gender and islam just calls god he who has not begotten and christians believe he is the father of everything since there believes are different all have the same meaning towards sexism example islam after the divorce of the couple the man must return the wedding funds to the women and other funds that is in the name of the women like the house was brought under her name and Christianity giving the greater punishment to eve compared to adam. Edited by MrTsoi, Jul 13 2012, 07:47 PM.
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