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Would Broly have turned out different if...
Topic Started: Jun 8 2012, 06:13 PM (5,300 Views)
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Lets say King Vegeta decided that Broly would be an asset instead of a danger. Do you guys believe that Broly would have turned out differently if he had not had such a crappy childhood? Do you think it would have been him that defeated Frieza instead of Goku?

Lets see what we come up with here.
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Eather way Frieza destroys Planet Vegeta, but as far as i can see things going i would say that as soon as Broly learned martial arts from Paragus he would kill Frieza. No reason to whait for 30 years if you already have the power and skill.
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I don't think Broly would've turned out much different. I personally believe that he was always insane. Goku's crying just sped up that process of him fully turning into a psychopath.

Let's say that Freeza hadn't destroyed the Saiyans, and King Vegeta wouldn't have been a douche.

Scenario 1: Broly reaches the Super Saiyan form at Age 10, and kills First Form Freeza like nothing.

Scenario 2: Broly goes insane anyways. King Vegeta tries to stop him, but is killed. Freeza decides to take care of the problem himself, but Broly goes SSJ and kills him.

Scenario 3: Broly turns into the ''Legendary Super Saiyan'' and explodes Planet Vegeta instead of Freeza.

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I think he would of end betraying them because he woulda got too strong to stay loyal to them. But I think he woulda turned out different, not having hatred towards Kakarot. Would of been interesting to see I think. But eventually I think he if was to kill Frieza he would just take everything over himself afterwords.. He's a saiyan..
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Things were escalating too quickly for Broly to have killed Frieza. The day he and Goku were born was the day Frieza decided to destroy Planet Vegeta. But King Vegeta could've played a big role in Broly's psyche. You could attribute Broly's psychotic tendencies to post traumatic stress of being stabbed as a baby and nearly killed by the explosion making him adopt a second nature of a psychopath to better cope with reality. I personally believe this to be the case, judging by how surprised Broly was when his father wanted to put the device to control his power level on him while he was sleeping, it's like he didn't realize that he was the one who blinded his father and drove him to that point.
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Okay, lets just throw out crying Goku for arguments sake. You guys really think that the Legendary Super Saiyan was completely evil? We've seen all transformations of Vegeta, Goku, and Gohan. Goku and Gohan were pure hearted intentions. I'm really unsure if Vegeta's was pure hearted or greed. I can't recall.

Vegeta said that Saiyans did everything that Frieza ordered which meant taking planets over and killing everyone on them. Do you really think the saiyans would have kept taking over planets if Frieza wasn't in control? Are saiyans really that evil naturally? Just look at Vegeta. He was evil at first, but changed colors once he went on Earth. Someone that evil at heart probably had many bad memories as a kid.

The same could be said about Broly. He was stabbed as a kid and treated like dirt. This is why Broly confuses me. How did he turn super saiyan? What were his feelings when turning super saiyan?
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Broly had some serious psychological issues. Aside from the stupid Goku crying excuse, he was stabbed as a kid, and his father was obsessed with controlling him.

IIRC, there's a game that explains that Broly remembers Planet Vegeta being blown up.

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Okay, lets just throw out crying Goku for arguments sake. You guys really think that the Legendary Super Saiyan was completely evil? We've seen all transformations of Vegeta, Goku, and Gohan. Goku and Gohan were pure hearted intentions. I'm really unsure if Vegeta's was pure hearted or greed. I can't recall.

Vegeta said that Saiyans did everything that Frieza ordered which meant taking planets over and killing everyone on them. Do you really think the saiyans would have kept taking over planets if Frieza wasn't in control? Are saiyans really that evil naturally? Just look at Vegeta. He was evil at first, but changed colors once he went on Earth. Someone that evil at heart probably had many bad memories as a kid.

The same could be said about Broly. He was stabbed as a kid and treated like dirt. This is why Broly confuses me. How did he turn super saiyan? What were his feelings when turning super saiyan?


I don't think the Saiyans are that evil.

They love to fight, and some are real douches, but they're only following orders in fear of being killed by Freeza, or his men.

Broly probably felt a lot of anger when he turned SSJ for the first time. There's one game that says he was ''born'' SSJ, but I don't believe that.
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Jun 8 2012, 06:18 PM
I think he would of end betraying them because he woulda got too strong to stay loyal to them. But I think he woulda turned out different, not having hatred towards Kakarot. Would of been interesting to see I think. But eventually I think he if was to kill Frieza he would just take everything over himself afterwords.. He's a saiyan..
This right here.

In the saiyan world you keep what you kill, thus king vegetas fear of broly.

Born a super saiyan.

Broly was born a super saiyan, and the movie shows him saving himself and paragus from friezas betrayal.

after he was stabbed by the king.

So yeah, he remembers.
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Broly had many issues as Gridzero stated, but I also like what Sora posted because there are glimpses of Broly being very calm and laid back. I do remember the part where Paragus was goign to put that device on Broly. He seemed very calm and surprised that his father would do something like that.

Again that raises up the question of whether or not Saiyans are naturally evil or greedy. Why wouldn't it be possible for Broly to be under command. If King Vegeta, treated him with respect and was a friend. Would Broly turn on him?

I could see why Broly turned his father. His father was a complete nut job, but wiping everything that he suffered clean. The question is if he would have been an asset and one to bring peace to the galaxy with his amazing power.
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Broly wasn't born a Super Saiyan.

You know how much poop would've hit the fan it Broly was born a Super Saiyan?

Remember, he wasn't being restrained by his father yet, so his hair would be yellow, and his eyes green. The scientists would have to immediately had to report it like they reported that Broly was born with a power level of 10.

It would've traveled up to Freeza, and he would've pooped his pants and killed all the Saiyans.

If Vegeta knew about the Super Saiyan legend, then most all Saiyans knew and of course Freeza did, so everyone was educated on the legend.

No way was Broly born Super Saiyan.

That doesn't make sense logically, or power wise.

If he was, his PL wouldn't have been 10,000, it'd have been 500,000, or 1,000 because of the multiplier.

Freeza would've gone out of his way to kill him so fast your head would spin.
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uh no, i dont where such a long rant came from, but broly was born a super saiyan.

with a power level of 10,000

King vegeta is reported to be around 12,000 at this time. Just over bardock and prince vegeta, who himself was born a "prodigy".

so yeah. whatever.

paragus's backstories in the movie show broly as a super saiyan, and only ONE instance where he wasnt a super saiyan. Blowing stuff up.

His transformation was normal for him, it was pretty clear he was a powerful SSJ by the age of whatever he was in the clip.

Otherwise i dont see anything normal about survivng a direct run through of a blade.

Possibly getting from it his first zenkai, and then under his own power saved himself and paragus.

yeah, CLEARLY NOT a Super saiyan. With the giant Ki bubble, surviving in space, and the explosion of Planet vegeta.
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Broly wasn't born a Super Saiyan.

There's absolutely no evidence to back that up except from some game that was published.
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Ofc that he is not born SSJ. I mean even in movie 8 he doesnt have any ssj characteristics as a baby.

But in character sketch he has SSJ form as a kid.
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Evidence to back what up? i watch whats official, i dont glean info from video games and cutscenes.

it was clear that in this universe being the LSSJ is the legend. Since the whole earth crew are SSJ's then that means that Broly was Born a super saiyan.

The legendary One.

No other reason for it, Broly being the LSSJ means that being an SSj in this universe is not special.

But in the movie clearly broly was an infant, and then a child. All the while tearing up stuff and acting wild.

paragus didnt put the controller on him till he was in his preteens i would guess. Maybe even a little later.

So no, broly was insane from the jump.

IMHO he is no different than AKIRA. All Power and no brains, and his power drives him insane.
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How is it official that Broly was born Super Saiyan?

There is nothing in the movies/Daizenshuu that points to that, at all.
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