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Goten and Trunks
Topic Started: Jun 7 2012, 06:30 PM (2,673 Views)
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Super Vegetto
Jun 8 2012, 07:10 PM
GridZero
Jun 8 2012, 07:09 PM
You know, it would make perfect sense that Present Trunks ~ Future Trunks, if we'd never seen his backstory.

Future Trunks had SSJ from an early age, according to canon, and Gohan said he's leave him in the dust in a few months.

The problem comes when SSJ Future Trunks > Android 18

*Facepalm*
What you mean by problem comes when SSJ Future Trunks > Android 18 ?
:o Oops, I meant Present Trunks
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professor_gohan
Jun 8 2012, 07:11 PM
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Jun 8 2012, 07:06 PM
They have SSJ blood since birth. Even Future Trunks had SSJ before Gohan died so yea its all in genetic in getting powerful gift.
Future Trunks also had drive though, a reason to turn super saiyan because Gohan died going bu the special anyway. The children didnt have nothing nor a reason to be super saiyans... they were spoiled and didnt have a worry in the world till Buu and them showed and i think they were still having fun then.. the boys shouldnt be super saiyans at least not that early. Hell Trunks' spoiled a#% probably had mommy buy super saiyan for him.
Yea but its doesnt mean that Future Trunks didnt got SSJ like Present Trunks. Its only because we know that Future Trunks timeline is where everyone is dead so everyone assume that he tranformed from rage, while i still go by him having same ssj blood like his present self.


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Future Trunks most likely got SSJ at the same age that Present Trunks did. That's not the problem.

The problem is the Future Trunks is so much weaker than Present Trunks when they're both SSJ's, and Future Trunks did WAY more training than Present Trunks.

That's what doesn't make any sense.
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Jun 8 2012, 07:16 PM
Future Trunks most likely got SSJ at the same age that Present Trunks did. That's not the problem.

The problem is the Future Trunks is so much weaker than Present Trunks when they're both SSJ's, and Future Trunks did WAY more training than Present Trunks.

That's what doesn't make any sense.
He was also in combat too, something kid Trunks really doesn't know of.
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Present Trunks has Vegeta for a training partner. Who knows when he started to train with him. Maybe even before he transformed first time.
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Bulma said that Present Trunks only started to train with Vegeta during the wait for the World Tournament.

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Well then took this for power gain. Vegeta was much stronger when he was with Bulma.

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Alright, so I guess if he went from Initial SSJ Future Trunks to being stronger than Android 18, just from training with Vegeta, the RoSaT is absolutely useless, correct?
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How long is time period between world tournament and Trunks starting to train ?
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couple months maybe? iirc i think somebody said it was a couple months away but i could be wrong.
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I dont get what GridZero sad about Rosat beeing useless ?
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[Ref: Year from Daizenshuu 7 and SEG: Character Volume. I’m assuming he’s born after the Cell Games. In Chapter 433 Goten is said to be 7 years old during the 25th TB (in Age 774). The narrator says in Chapter 424 that Goten was left behind “before the battle with Cell”. Many people assume this refers to the 9 days leading up to the Cell Games, though for him to be born in 767 he would have to have been conceived by no later than March, while the Cell Games are said to be in May. I suppose that, as a half-alien hybrid, Goten’s gestation time could have been shorter than 9 months, but I prefer to think “before the battle with Cell” means before the day the androids and Cell appear, which gives a little more leeway. Daizenshuu 4 says Trunks and Goten were born without tails.]
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It wasn't a couple months, it was a couple days.

Bulma said that Trunks had just started training with Vegeta in the gravity chamber. It couldn't have been more than two months worth of training with him.

I'm saying it makes the RoSaT useless because one and a half months worth of training apparently outdoes the effects of the RoSaT.

Also:

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Born in the year Age 767. He was born while Goku was fighting in the Cell Game [?!?!?!]. He normally plays with Trunks and animals, and learned kumite from Chi Chi. When Majin Buu appeared at God's temple, he and Trunks were trained in Fusion by Goku [!??!]. For a moment, he was destined to fight Buu as a savior. When Goku returns to the afterlife, though he wanted a hug he wasn't able to say so himself, and seemed to be embarrassed. When he becomes a high school student, he gets a girlfriend.


I'm sticking to this.
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Teen GohanZ
Jun 8 2012, 01:04 AM
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Jun 8 2012, 01:03 AM
What did daizenshuu sad about Goten birth ?
That he was born while the Cell Games were happening...yeah...
Wish I was there with him... :(
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So basically ChiChi had him, put him in the backroom, and went back to the living room to watch the Cell Games on tv.
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