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Why does everybody say anime shows Goku SSJ3 >> Mystic Gohan?
Topic Started: Jun 7 2012, 05:32 AM (1,280 Views)
amsmagic
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Jun 7 2012, 12:04 PM
Two reasons:
1) SSj Goku beat Ultimate Gohan inside Buu, and it was stated the copies have the same powers as the original in the Japanese dub and Daiz
2) Kid Buu is stated to be the strongest Buu and Goku fought on par with him.
Since I'm asking about the anime, I'm making references to the anime dub.

I'm that, Goku states, "You certainly hit like my son"

Doesn't state Gohans as strong.
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amsmagic
Jun 7 2012, 02:28 PM
Teen GohanZ
Jun 7 2012, 12:04 PM
Two reasons:
1) SSj Goku beat Ultimate Gohan inside Buu, and it was stated the copies have the same powers as the original in the Japanese dub and Daiz
2) Kid Buu is stated to be the strongest Buu and Goku fought on par with him.
Since I'm asking about the anime, I'm making references to the anime dub.

I'm that, Goku states, "You certainly hit like my son"

Doesn't state Gohans as strong.
Well that's the dub. The Japanese version states Gohan is as strong as the original so that's the truth.
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Japanese does put Gohan inside Buu as on par with Gohan

Anime canon puts Goku as the most powerful.

Manga canon puts Chou Gohan as the most powerful
Edited by Fulgore, Jun 7 2012, 03:19 PM.
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Jun 7 2012, 08:50 AM
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Jun 7 2012, 07:58 AM
Meh. I still sit on the fence on this one. Apparently in the Japanese anime they state that the Gohan in Buu is just as strong as Mystic Gohan (in the dub I watched he just says "hits like" which is meaningless).

However SSJ3 Gotenks gets nailed by a special beam cannon from Piccolo. So unless you have them close in power that sequence just doesn't make sense.
It's a drill in the back. Gotenks wasn't protecting himself so of course that is instant kill, like taking a Duestructo Disc. I know Cell tanked one in the anime and Gohan caught them but it doesn't change the reaction from Vegeta and Trunka that they both thought you couldn't touch them period either because it would decapitate you despite the gap between Krillin and Cell as well as Cell and Gohan
We see people tank SBC's (looking at Gohan vs Cell jrs here) and Cell tanks a kienzan (I think that's the only time it gets tanked, exempting Buu who just takes it).
The gap between Gohan SSJ2 and a Cell Jr is paltry compared to the void between Piccollo and SSJ3 Gotenks.

I know it's anime logic but I'd rather take Goku as being wrong than everything else making no sense. It just...no sense is made by that filler. Unless Goku meant Gohan = non mystic Gohan which is stretching it so far it's ridiculous but...I just can't defend the anime on this because it is literally nonsensical. If Goku is right then lots of things make no sense, if he's wrong the only issue is he's wrong, so I kinda side with that...
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Gohan vs goku can happen because mystic cud b a form

Elder kai told gohan to go ssj to reach mystic, its only in gt that mystic is considered his base form

Gohan base vs goku base can make sense

Goku ssj3 < mystic gohan because mystic is gohans ssj powers mixed with his hidden powers while ssj3 is just 4xs gokus ssj2
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