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Base Saiyans surpassing 100% Frieza ?
Topic Started: Jun 6 2012, 01:53 PM (14,204 Views)
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Ninjajp247
Jun 6 2012, 10:21 PM
base saiyans dont really eat kaioshin but they do at full power and beyond scare kaioshin, who wasnt impressed with their base forms, but WAS impressed with the fact that they could NOT ONLY power up in base form? Kaioshin was amazed they could power up period, let alone in all forms.

But transform also.

Kaioshin HIMSELF stated that every last ONE of the kais WERE EATING frieza with a SINGLE blast.

Pocus was stated to eat frieza AND was even stronger as he could operate at a high level of gravity on friezas level.

Since base vegeta DESTROYED pocus? there is NO question what the answer is here.

kaioshin wanted to gang up on pocus, especially when babidi sent them to pocus's world.

So if POCUS makes kaioshin scared to take on his own , and kaioshin clearly stated that he alone eats frieza with a spoon then this debate is a wrap.

base kids may not equal 18, but they do rival goku and vegeta android saga>>18

so the kids are obviously stronger.
That what I was trying to say the hole day but he didn't listen :@
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And Kaioshin knows that against Dabura they dont stand a chance even after seeing SSJ2 Gohan. Also Dabura is not worried in fighthing Saiyans even after seeing Gokus powers. That is official proof Gohan is SSJ2 against Dabura. Btw why would Kaioshin be scared of Pui Pui and Yakkon if he has SSJ2 Gohan ? Because he doesnt know how strong is Yakkon, Pui Pui or Dabura.

To you it looks simple and to me it looks simple when we go by what is stated, but its not.

Btw going by what is stated its Base saiyans > Kaioshin > Piccolo.

Its clearly stated by Piccolo himself and Babidi, so you whant to say that Piccolo who was above Base saiyans in Cell games weaker than Base Teen Gohan Boo saga ? Ofc not.

Find some better proof and not something debateble.

Proof that cant be contradicted.
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kaioshin was scared of dabura, and was relieved any of the saiyans could take him.

fortunately for dabra they all decided the weakest of them would fight.

Not only did he know WHo dabra was? he told them who dabra was.

A fighter from another dimension, the prince of darkness. Period.

All kibit and kaioshin wanted from gohan was to turn super saiyan, as they didnt know the saiyans could power up in base.

Instead gohan decided to show off and go SSj2. Has nothing to do with kaioshins beliefs. Who was still astounded by the saiyans strength when gohan pulled the z sword.
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Ninjajp247
Jun 6 2012, 10:25 PM
kaioshin was scared of dabura, and was relieved any of the saiyans could take him.

fortunately for dabra they all decided the weakest of them would fight.
He saw SSJ2 Gohan. Why would he be scared of Dabura if he knows how strong is Dabura ? No point to be scared at all.

Like i already sad in other topic Kaioshin is scared of Babidis slaves and especialy his magic. He thinks that his magic can give his slave enough power to overpower SSJ2 Gohan.

Its clearly that Kaioshin is extra carefful and whanted to end thing fast, but saiyans are saiyans.


All i can say is that Boo saga is messd up and we cant take everything as stated.
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Jun 6 2012, 10:28 PM
Ninjajp247
Jun 6 2012, 10:25 PM
kaioshin was scared of dabura, and was relieved any of the saiyans could take him.

fortunately for dabra they all decided the weakest of them would fight.
He saw SSJ2 Gohan. Why would he be scared of Dabura if he knows how strong is Dabura ? No point to be scared at all.

Like i already sad in other topic Kaioshin is scared of Babidis slaves and especialy his magic. He thinks that his magic can give his slave enough power to overpower SSJ2 Gohan.

Its clearly that Kaioshin is extra carefful and whanted to end thing fast, but saiyans are saiyans.


All i can say is that Boo saga is messd up and we cant take everything as stated.
You completley ignored my post. Is it because it provides so much proof you wish to ignore it in order to keep a pointless debate raging?
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Whait you sad that you solved this debate ? I ignore ? I only reply to one guy, that doesnt mean that others are right and i ignore them.
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A lot of things in buu saga is debateable and contradicts stuff

But i believe the saiyans in base surpassed freeza

Goku, gohan and vegeta have had exponential growths throughout the series

And by buu saga they have defintely surppassed him

There is a lot of proof like goten and trunks fighting #18 in base

But u seems to think she wasnt trying she was there are statements but i cant get them for u

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For the guy that posts this topic on every dbz forum and tryes to prove me wrong. Few examples of things that are stated :

That selsiuss guy thinks he can solve this debate by going on every forum yet he is suspended on this one.

One explanation :

Base Trunks cant move so easy in 100x gravity. That means he is weaker than Base Goku ( arriving on Namek ).

Is this right ? Ofc not.

Btw pulling out Z sword is not same like using it. Kibito is not Kaioshin and he cant one shot Frieza because its stated that only Kaioshins can do that.

Kaioshin never tryed to hold Z sword so nothing says that he is weaker than Base saiyans and stronger than Frieza.


Babidi statad that Pui Pui > Kaioshin. He stated that by knowing he sends Pui Pui in fights against Kaioshin and 3 other guy.

Kaioshin stated that around Dabura they have slim chance and he saw SSJ2 Gohan powers.

Dabura is confident in fighthing 3 of them after seeing Gokus power that jumped from 3000 kili to over 13000 kili.

That means that Gohan is officialy SSJ2 against Dabura, because Kaioshin knowes how strong is Yakkon and Dabura, just like Babidi and Dabura know Pui Pui, Yakkon are stronger than Kaioshin that can one shoot Frieza. Right ?

Ofc not so easy. Kaioshin is scared of Babidis slaves even after seeing SSJ2 Gohan. Does that make sence ?

Does it make sence for Babidi and Dabura to be right and Kaioshin to be wrong ?


Its all personal opinion and i mentioned that i dont whant to go by Base saiyans > Kaioshin > 100% Frieza because its not stated as a fact.


Now if anyone has some better proof show it here.
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Jun 6 2012, 10:59 PM
For the guy that posts this topic on every dbz forum and tryes to prove me wrong. Few examples of things that are stated :

That selsiuss guy thinks he can solve this debate by going on every forum yet he is suspended on this one.

One explanation :

Base Trunks cant move so easy in 100x gravity. That means he is weaker than Base Goku ( arriving on Namek ).

Is this right ? Ofc not.

Btw pulling out Z sword is not same like using it. Kibito is not Kaioshin and he cant one shot Frieza because its stated that only Kaioshins can do that.

Kaioshin never tryed to hold Z sword so nothing says that he is weaker than Base saiyans and stronger than Frieza.


Babidi statad that Pui Pui > Kaioshin. He stated that by knowing he sends Pui Pui in fights against Kaioshin and 3 other guy.

Kaioshin stated that around Dabura they have slim chance and he saw SSJ2 Gohan powers.

Dabura is confident in fighthing 3 of them after seeing Gokus power that jumped from 3000 kili to over 13000 kili.

That means that Gohan is officialy SSJ2 against Dabura, because Kaioshin knowes how strong is Yakkon and Dabura, just like Babidi and Dabura know Pui Pui, Yakkon are stronger than Kaioshin that can one shoot Frieza. Right ?

Ofc not so easy. Kaioshin is scared of Babidis slaves even after seeing SSJ2 Gohan. Doesnt that make sence ?

Does it make sence for Babidi and Dabura to be right and Kaioshin to be wrong ?


Its all presonal opinion and i mentioned that i dont whant to go by Base saiyans > Kaioshin > 100% Frieza because its not stated.


Now if anyone has some better proof show it here.
I did show I and you keep ignoring it. I didn't mention kaioshin.
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I'll give one clear proof : Base Vegetto is far stronger than 100% Frieza you've got that bro .
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Ok i will read to prove you that it cant be stated and that its only your opinion.
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Jun 6 2012, 11:02 PM
I'll give one clear proof : Base Vegetto is far stronger than 100% Frieza you've got that bro .
Only fusions and Gohan that got magic power from mastering Z sword.
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DeMon PrinCe
Jun 6 2012, 11:02 PM
I'll give one clear proof : Base Vegetto is far stronger than 100% Frieza you've got that bro .
Only fusions and Gohan that got magic power from mastering Z sword.
First of all, I stated facts, not one opinion of mine. Go re read my post.

Second, Gohan didn't get any power from training with the Z sword nor did he get magic.

He had his inner potential brought out.
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Ooh !! Plzz Base Kid Gohann is far Stronger than 100% Frieza he eats him alive C'mooon .
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Even with 50x multiply in Cell Games i have Base Saiyans >> Frieza.
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