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| Base Saiyans surpassing 100% Frieza ? | |
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| Prince . | Jun 6 2012, 05:45 PM Post #46 |
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What !! it said that no mortal being was able to pull out the Z sword even Kaioshin himself Cannot who's one shots Frieza . |
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| amsmagic | Jun 6 2012, 07:16 PM Post #47 |
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I almost can't beleive this debate is raging on. It's immensely simple if you ask me. MSSJ Goku is <= Perfect Cell. That is a fact. Perfect Cell is >>>>>>>>>> to 100% Frieza. That is a fact. If Goku can almost equal perfect cell as a SSJ, he can murder Frieza at base. If that's not enough proof, that's look at other aspects shall we? And please let's forget all the z sword non sense. It's all irrelevant. First of all, Gohan at Super Boo will one shot 100% Frieza. Technically, he is at base. But your about to argue that it doesn't count because he had his potential unlocked and is called "Mystic.". Well that's not true. He is still in base form, he never transforms. It's his power. But I know you won't take this, so let's look at yet another aspect. Pui Pui. Vegeta one shots him in base. Personally, I have Pui Pui below Saiyan Saga Vegeta, but people have already proved to me that my evidence is anime based, so I can't judge Pui Pui. I have heard he is above Frieza 50%. If that's the case, and Vegeta base One Shots him.... Then Vegeta base can definitely handle 100% Frieza. But still, you could argue and say Pui Pui is not that strong, so let's look at yet another... Aspect. It's the eating time! Let's get the popcorn and soda ready. Enjoy the show. Base Goku (Namek) <<< 100% Frieza SSJ Goku (Namek) > 100% Frieza. SSJ Future Trunks (Mecha Frieza) <<< Frieza. SSJ Goku (Mecha Frieza) = SSJ Future Trunks (Mecha Frieza) So SSJ Goku is now >>> to Frieza instead of > That puts Goku's base now < to Frieza, and it's only the android Saga. Over the course of cell, and finding MSSJ, and SSJ2 and SSJ3, I find base Goku to >>>> Frieza 100%, because he was already catching up by the android saga. Thoughts anyone? |
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Jun 6 2012, 07:20 PM Post #48 |
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SSJ Goku (Mecha Frieza) = SSJ Future Trunks (Mecha Frieza)? Eh, no. Only thing I disagree on. Edited by GridZero, Jun 6 2012, 07:20 PM.
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| amsmagic | Jun 6 2012, 07:22 PM Post #49 |
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I've heard that from some people, I have no proof backing it up. But even if he's stronger, Goku had to be improving by such an amount he passed Frieza in base. That was my real point in the comparisons. |
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Jun 6 2012, 07:23 PM Post #50 |
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IIRC, Trunks couldn't even land a hit on Goku and he was only using his finger to deflect his sword. Only thing that I go on. I still have Base Goku > Kaioshin though. |
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Jun 6 2012, 07:24 PM Post #51 |
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18 did not eat those kids in anyway, as a matter of fact she was scared of a half power blast. Otherwise she would have tanked it. The kids eat 18, therefore eating the adult saiyans in the android saga. 18 exposed them and then got them disqualified, beating would have NEVER happened. Especially since the kids were trying to keep from killing her. |
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| Kruegs Outlandish | Jun 6 2012, 07:27 PM Post #52 |
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incredibly rough chain; could have possibly tried to justify more fighters place in the chain; some fighters in the chain may need to be explained... [shrugs] (1) Freeza 4 (Max) <<<< (3) Goku (At Freeza, Super Saiyan) << (4) Goku (At Trunks) <<<< (7) Future Trunks (At #18) <<<< (10) Vegeta (At #18) <<<< (13) #18 (At Vegeta) <<<< (16) Cell 1 (At Piccolo) <<<< (19) Piccolo (At Cell) << (20) #18 (Maximum) << (21) #17 (At Piccolo) <<<< (24) #16 (At Cell) <<<< (27) Cell 2 (At #16) <<<< (30) Cell 2 (At Vegeta, Maximum) <<<< (33) Cell 3 (At Vegeta) <<< (35) Vegeta (At Cell, A1SSJ) <<<< (38) Cell 3 (At Vegeta, Trunks) <<<< (41) Future Trunks (At Cell) <<<< (44) Goku (At Karin's, Super Saiyan) |2x| 2 × (44) Goku (At Cell) 1 = 1.250/3 <<<< 1.253/3 << 1.254/3 <<<< 1.257/3 <<<< 1.2510/3 <<<< 1.2513/3 <<<< 1.2516/3 <<<< 1.2519/3 << 1.2520/3 << 1.2521/3 <<<< 1.2524/3 <<<< 1.2527/3 <<<< 1.2530/3 <<<< 1.2533/3 <<< 1.2535/3 <<<< 1.2538/3 <<<< 1.2541/3 <<<< 1.2544/3 |2x| 2 × 1.2544/3 = 52.768755649740102085275752312094 Freeza at Goku is 1 Goku at Cell is, at least, 52.7 using 50× Super Saiyan, Goku in normal state is at least 1. using 10× Super Saiyan, Goku in normal state is at least 5.2. |
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| Duper Vegerot | Jun 6 2012, 07:32 PM Post #53 |
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I'm sure Super Vegetto will argue that the gains in power from Freeza to Buu were not big enough to put the non-fused non-mystic base saiyans above frieza. But he should REALLY think about it: Goku went from a power level of 416(unweighted) at the beginning of DBZ to "over 8,000" when he faced Vegeta a year later. That's an increase of roughly 19-20x. With 158 days of training. He became 19 or 20x stronger in a year. After that, Goku soared up to 90,000 in six days of training in 100x gravity. That's an increase of roughly 10-12x. In six days. THEN, after a huge Zenkai and achieving Super Saiyan, Super Vegetto expects us to believe that Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan never rose past roughly 120 million with, let's see, 3 years of training for the arrival of the androids, another year of training in the Time Chamber for Goku and Gohan, and two for Vegeta and future trunks, and then SEVEN more years of hard training for Goku and Vegeta, Super Vegetto believes that with that much time and training, even when taking previous gains in power into account, that none of the base saiyans by the start of the Buu saga had surpassed Freeza. Sure, go ahead and believe that. |
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| HersheyDux | Jun 6 2012, 07:32 PM Post #54 |
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Frieza 100% <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Cyborgs 17 & 18 <= Base Kids, imo |
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| amsmagic | Jun 6 2012, 07:38 PM Post #55 |
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Don't mention base kids. He won't believe you. We know that androids << Base Goku and Vegeta. That can't be disputed. Where's their proof? It's the simple power difference. |
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Jun 6 2012, 07:42 PM Post #56 |
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I have Android 17 > Android 18 ~> SSJ Trunks > SSJ Goten, but that's just me. |
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| Ryuuzaki | Jun 6 2012, 07:42 PM Post #57 |
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Frieza 120.000.000 A17 1.000.000.000 A18 ( at tournament + his train with she's love ) 1.250.000.000 Base Trunks ( at torunament ) 750.000.000 Base Goten ( at Torunament ) 700.000.000 |
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Jun 6 2012, 07:58 PM Post #58 |
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Well not realy. Some peoples like i have Kaioshin > Base saiyans. Its never stated that Base Saiyans > Kaioshin so i guess there is no point to solve this debate. |
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| Prince . | Jun 6 2012, 10:17 PM Post #59 |
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I found one good proof : Base Goku was clearly having the uper hand on Yakon who scear the ***** out of Kaioshin and tells the Saiyans to team up to beat Yakon and we all knows 100% Frieza <<<<<<<<<<< Kaioshin . so 100% Frieza <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Base Goku Case Closed . |
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Jun 6 2012, 10:21 PM Post #60 |
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base saiyans dont really eat kaioshin but they do at full power and beyond scare kaioshin, who wasnt impressed with their base forms, but WAS impressed with the fact that they could NOT ONLY power up in base form? Kaioshin was amazed they could power up period, let alone in all forms. But transform also. Kaioshin HIMSELF stated that every last ONE of the kais WERE EATING frieza with a SINGLE blast. Pocus was stated to eat frieza AND was even stronger as he could operate at a high level of gravity on friezas level. Since base vegeta DESTROYED pocus? there is NO question what the answer is here. kaioshin wanted to gang up on pocus, especially when babidi sent them to pocus's world. So if POCUS makes kaioshin scared to take on his own , and kaioshin clearly stated that he alone eats frieza with a spoon then this debate is a wrap. base kids may not equal 18, but they do < goku and vegeta android saga<< 18 <17 so the kids are obviously stronger. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Jun 6 2012, 10:23 PM.
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