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| Base Saiyans surpassing 100% Frieza ? | |
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| Duper Vegerot | Jun 6 2012, 04:05 PM Post #16 |
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Ultimate Gohan. BAM! But anyway, Ssj Gohan is stronger than Supreme Kaioshin, who is stronger than Frieza, and Gohan needed at least Ssj(or Ssj2 if you believe that) to pull out the Z sword. A few chapters later Gohan is using the Z sword in base, and Goku was even able to hold it no problem. Since Vegeta is nearly the same level of Goku in base at this time then we can conclude that all the base adults are stronger than 100% Frieza. |
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Jun 6 2012, 04:11 PM Post #17 |
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SSJ2 to pull out Z sword. There is a diffrence in pulling out and using it. Gohan moment he pulls out Z sword is using him in base. |
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| Prince . | Jun 6 2012, 04:14 PM Post #18 |
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No. 18 said that Mighty mask was pretty strong that's enough evidence even if 18 is toying that Frieza 100% <<<<<<< Base kids . |
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| * Stark | Jun 6 2012, 04:19 PM Post #19 |
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No, Android 18 wasn't toying around. She said that suppressing for her is difficult and why would she suppress? She didn't care for the children, she just cared about the prize. That's why she lost to Satan.
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Jun 6 2012, 04:19 PM Post #20 |
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There is no enough evidence. You cant take anything to literal because its not actuly stated. Beeing strong doesnt mean: Base kids > Frieza. If she sad he is stronger that this guy or that guy, then you can take it as a statment. Btw more proof ? Edited by Super Vegetto, Jun 6 2012, 04:21 PM.
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| Duper Vegerot | Jun 6 2012, 04:23 PM Post #21 |
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Gohan needed to power up to pull it out because the sword is so heavy. A few chapters/episodes later he's swinging the sword around like it's nothing, no doubt having surpassed his own Ssj/Ssj2 power from before in base. Goku can handle the sword easily as well, so we must conclude that Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta(since he's Goku's equal without Ssj3) are all stronger than 100% Frieza in base. But really think about it, Kaioshin could not hope to ever lift the Z sword, even after it had already been pulled out. Gohan was able to swing it around(although very clumsily) in base just a moment after pulling it out. Kaioshin wouldn't be able to do that. This is a clear indicator that even before becoming proficient with the Z sword Gohan was already stronger than Kaioshin in base, and by extension 100% Frieza. |
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Jun 6 2012, 04:27 PM Post #22 |
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Man he starts using sword in base. Check the manga. Moment he relised Z sword he is in base using it and complaining how its heavy. Kaioshin couldnt pull out Z sword. Question is can Kaioshin use Z sword. |
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| Prince . | Jun 6 2012, 04:31 PM Post #23 |
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Whaat !!! No. 18 just punch Frieza and he's death and besides do you have a proof that 18 was toying ? |
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Jun 6 2012, 04:33 PM Post #24 |
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| Prince . | Jun 6 2012, 04:35 PM Post #25 |
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Not killing doesn't means toying . |
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Jun 6 2012, 04:37 PM Post #26 |
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So she should go full power from start, yea right. Not killing is basicly suppressing her actual power because she has enough power to kill a guy with one punch. |
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| Duper Vegerot | Jun 6 2012, 04:37 PM Post #27 |
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did you even read the second part of my post? I said that while Gohan could use the Z sword in base before starting training, Kaioshin couldn't. Kaioshin couldn't pull it out, and no way is he ever swinging the sword around. If you think that Gohan's weaker than 100% Frieza, ask anybody here if Frieza could lift the z sword and they will say "Hell no!" |
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Jun 6 2012, 04:39 PM Post #28 |
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Its Kibito who tryed to use Z sword,not Kaioshin. Gohan pulled out Z sword in SSJ2 form and he is using it in Base. Nice one because you think you cleared debate with weight things. Let me tell you a little secret. Base Trunks cant movie in 100x gravity. That means he is weaker than Base Goku ( arriving on Namek ). Just stop with weight thing because you cant prove it like that. Btw any other proof ? Edited by Super Vegetto, Jun 6 2012, 04:40 PM.
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| Duper Vegerot | Jun 6 2012, 04:42 PM Post #29 |
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I know it was Kibito that tried to lift the sword, but Kaioshin didn't try because he knew he wouldn't be able to. Does anyone here actually believe that Freeza could lift the Z sword? Edited by Duper Vegerot, Jun 6 2012, 04:43 PM.
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Jun 6 2012, 04:44 PM Post #30 |
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Why would he try to use Z sword if Gohan is stronger than him. Its Gohan who will have better chance against Majin boo, not Kaioshin. Frieza cant pull out Z sword. Frieza can use it with difficulty like Gohan in begining imo. Edited by Super Vegetto, Jun 6 2012, 04:45 PM.
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