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Base Saiyans surpassing 100% Frieza ?
Topic Started: Jun 6 2012, 01:53 PM (14,195 Views)
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Weskur
Jun 11 2012, 06:36 PM
Lol damn it so many sama it's confusing. Ok, when Piccolo ask Shin if he was the Grand Kai, Kibito corrects him and says, no, he is the Supreme Kai, or simply put, Kaio-shin. Piccolo was referring to this Grand Kai:
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They're both called Grand Kai, but one is Grand Kaio-sama, and the other, Grand Kaio-shin.
ok, so thats kaiosama then, cause kaioshin died fighting buu.

guess i never noticed it before, didnt really matter, in the funi dub it would though.

IMHO weskur? thats the only way i see it, piccolo may have been in awe for being in the presence of the kais, but he personally battles Supreme kai, and he is admittedly the weakest of the kaioshin, but a god to the kaiosamas. Period.

Power is not only included in that description? its a prerequisite for the title of god to begin with.

Clearly Toriyama wants Dabra to be Satan/Lucifer in some form.

so yeah, being on a whole other level includes power.

Piccolo couldnt take kaioshin with the coldest of his techniques, its like kuririn fighting broly in LSSJ.




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Piccolo pretty much flat-out stated that Kaioshin is way stronger than him.

Herms > Viz in translation.
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I guess people have different ways of interpreting that quote. Thing is we don't have any other single clue to prove Shin is light years away from Piccolo, and when a evidence is interpreted differently, is dificult to make it as fact. I had time to think back and skim through my manga and there is a couple things missed, so yeah I think there is a strong possibility that the base Saiyans have surpassed Frieza.
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Weskur
Jun 11 2012, 07:19 PM
I guess people have different ways of interpreting that quote. Thing is we don't have any other single clue to prove Shin is light years away from Piccolo, and when a evidence is interpreted differently, is dificult to make it as fact. I had time to think back and skim through my manga and there is a couple things missed, so yeah I think there is a strong possibility that the base Saiyans have surpassed Frieza.
Hmm one question about your power level.

How strong you have Base Goku ( Boo saga ) and SSJ Goku ( Boo saga ) ?
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SSJ goku is still just under Full power perfect cell.

But could still beat him with the right technique.
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Jun 11 2012, 07:36 PM
Weskur
Jun 11 2012, 07:19 PM
I guess people have different ways of interpreting that quote. Thing is we don't have any other single clue to prove Shin is light years away from Piccolo, and when a evidence is interpreted differently, is dificult to make it as fact. I had time to think back and skim through my manga and there is a couple things missed, so yeah I think there is a strong possibility that the base Saiyans have surpassed Frieza.
Hmm one question about your power level.

How strong you have Base Goku ( Boo saga ) and SSJ Goku ( Boo saga ) ?
Well, I believe in limits, so I have him the same as in the Cell saga. Goku did say he did everything he could with the SSJ so the next step was obviously to break the wall.
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I mean how you get Base Goku > 100% Frieza. What is your power level for Base Goku ( Boo saga ) and SSJ Goku ( Boo saga ) ?
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I really don't like PLs to be honest so I don't use those things lol. But I figured since Goku was able to get stronger in those three years training for the androids, it's logical his base increased since SSJ is just a multiplier. We don't know how much stronger he got but fact is, his base got stronger, so a base Goku or base Vegeta beating Frieza is not a shocker to me anymore.
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Yea it seams that way. Maybe its just to high SSJ multiply reason i look things diffrent when it comes to power comparison.
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This might sound a little stupid but why is the scan on page 7 fake?????????
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Jun 11 2012, 08:45 PM
This might sound a little stupid but why is the scan on page 7 fake?????????
Probably because its fan made power level scan.
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How can u tell?

Where did he find that scan?
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Some fan posed it on internet claiming its from v-jump.

V-jump power levels dont look like that and it has some mistakes in character names.

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I see i also checkd it on kazentai
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now im not a kanzentai fan or look at external guides for looks into DBZ.

But how can you tell thats fake? id like to know.
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