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Jun 11 2012, 06:19 PM Post #181 |
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Babidi is suposed to poses strongest fighters in the universe. He is scared for Vegetas sake to be killd so he dont whant to underestimate his slaves. He is suprised in Vegetas abbility after he kills Pui-Pui. |
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:19 PM Post #182 |
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I'm getting a bit lost here cause I don't know how we started talking about Dai-Kaioshin lol I'm saying Piccolo thought Shin was Dai-Kaio-sama. Dai-Kaio-sama is the Kai that has the beard, you know, he's called Grand Kai in Funi dubs. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:21 PM Post #183 |
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Oh the grand kai? the one that possessed buu? maybe its the only other kai name he knew, cause kaiosama only reported to grand kai iirc. |
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:27 PM Post #184 |
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No I'm talking about the Kai that only appears in the filler, the one that looks human. He's called Dai-Kaio-sama. Dai-Kaioshin is the big fat jolly, etc. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:29 PM Post #185 |
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you mean kaiosama? king kai? or the kai of the south galaxy? cause the grand kai was the fat one that possessed buu. yeah the closest kai ive seen that looked human next to kibit in the filler was the south kai. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:35 PM Post #186 |
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I dont know why you include Grand kai with beard in this. He doesnt exist in manga and he is never mentioned in manga. Grand kai is leader of Kaioshins in manga. Edited by Super Vegetto, Jun 11 2012, 06:36 PM.
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:36 PM Post #187 |
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Lol damn it so many sama it's confusing. Ok, when Piccolo ask Shin if he was the Grand Kai, Kibito corrects him and says, no, he is the Supreme Kai, or simply put, Kaio-shin. Piccolo was referring to this Grand Kai: Spoiler: click to toggle Not this Grand Kai: Spoiler: click to toggle They're both called Grand Kai, but one is Grand Kaio-sama, and the other, Grand Kaio-shin. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:37 PM Post #188 |
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Well if Grand kai with beard is mentioned in manga ( not by Piccolo ) than Kaioshin is class above Grand kai with beard which automaticly puts Piccolo under Kaioshin. |
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:37 PM Post #189 |
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He doesn't exist in the manga as an image but he does exist in the manga since Piccolo thought Shin was Grand Kaio-sama. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:40 PM Post #190 |
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Well you got it then : Kaioshin > Grand Kaio-sama > Piccolo ( Boo saga ). Btw dont go by filler where Grand Kaio-sama is weak. Filler makes Grand Kaioshin > South Kaioshin. |
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:42 PM Post #191 |
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Yes, he is mention by Piccolo, here's the quote. "I've heard rumors of a Kaio-shin, one who stands above even the four Lord of worlds(Kaio-SAMA), and even above the Great Lord, their leader." The Great Lord he spoke about was Grand Kaio-sama. So he does exists, he just doesn't have an image in the manga. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:44 PM Post #192 |
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Yea i guess that is actual proof that shows : Kaioshin > Grand Kaio-sama > Piccolo. Kaioshin > Piccolo > Base Saiyans > Pui-Pui. Edited by Super Vegetto, Jun 11 2012, 06:45 PM.
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:46 PM Post #193 |
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Lol no it's not that simple, the whole point is that, when Piccolo says Shin was dimensions above them, it doesn't necessarily mean in power because he thinks Shin was the Grand Kaio-sama. |
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Jun 11 2012, 06:49 PM Post #194 |
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Tien says that SSJ Goku is diffrent dimension. Does that mean Saiyan > Human or Goku would kick my ***** with one arm ? |
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| NavonWise | Jun 11 2012, 06:52 PM Post #195 |
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Yes I know what you mean, but the big picture here is that Piccolo immediately asks Shin if he was Grand Kai or not. So how can you prove Piccolo spoke about power, rather than, like in Viz, "different order of being"? |
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