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Mecha Frieza 100% > SSJ Trunks ?
Topic Started: Jun 5 2012, 01:42 AM (2,208 Views)
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Yeah, Freeza wasn't off guard at all.

Unless you call being warned, and then throwing a Death Ball off guard.
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Super Vegetto
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Teen GohanZ : He told him that before beeing SSJ or mentioning Goku. Pretty obvious that Frieza would destroy planet with that hit if he was 100%.

Badakku : Gohan said to Tien that Frieza isnt even using his full power.

GridZero : Freiza turned around when Trunks yelled. Frieza jumped in the air and Trunks appers behind him. He didnt even had chance to evade it.

Edited by Super Vegetto, Jun 5 2012, 02:36 AM.
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Future Trunks tells Freeza to power up to max, knowing that Goku had already defeating Freeza in his time.
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memes86
Jun 5 2012, 02:36 AM
Future Trunks tells Freeza to power up to max, knowing that Goku had already defeating Freeza in his time.
Yes Yardrat SSJ Goku kills him, not Namek SSJ Goku.
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Is it also possible that Gohan thought Freeza had reverted back into his forms?
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We see Frieza beeing in his original base form.

Reverted forms are much weaker.

Well i must go now, but if someone can prove that some dbz character made mistake in sencing super saiyan then i will automaticly use :

Trunks > Frieza, but for now i stay on Frieza > Trunks.
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Thala na Gethu!

Manga wise, Frieza gets his due, before he could demonstrate his full potential/his new improved self.

Anime wise, Frieza was completly owned by Trunks.

Anyway, I doubt it surpasses Trunks by a good margin. Trunks was superior..
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Thats still not proof what i nead. Going by Gohan statment it still stays that he stated Trunks has same ki like Goku.

So is there any proof that someone made mistake in sencing super saiyan ?
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I'm not sure what the arguement is here, Trunks tells Frieza to go full power so it's pretty clear he has enough confidence to beat him.

It doesnt matter if you think Trunks beat a supressed Frieza.
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Did you even read what i sad ? Gohan stated that SSJ Trunks has same power like SSJ Goku on Namek. He sad same not similar or something like that.

He tells Frieza to go full power before he goes SSJ and mentions Goku. Btw Friza didnt showed any proof of powering up.

It matters what is stated. Gohan stated SSJ Trunks = SSJ Goku ( Namek ) so if you have any good proof to show this wrong than post it here.
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Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans

SSJ Trunks > 100% Frieza

2:50 - King Kai says Trunks is much stronger than Frieza

5:00 - Frieza and Cold are stunned at Trunks's blocking the attack

Also personal opinion, if Frieza held back during his fight, wouldn't Cold have had suspicion?

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Jun 5 2012, 07:19 PM
SSJ Trunks > 100% Frieza

2:50 - King Kai says Trunks is much stronger than Frieza

5:00 - Frieza and Cold are stunned at Trunks's blocking the attack

Also personal opinion, if Frieza held back during his fight, wouldn't Cold have had suspicion?

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Well i used japanese anime video as a proof but things you mentioned never happend.

King kai never sad something like that and Freiza only shoots one atk on SSJ Trunks in manga.

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Super Vegetto
Jun 5 2012, 06:50 PM
Did you even read what i sad ? Gohan stated that SSJ Trunks has same power like SSJ Goku on Namek. He sad same not similar or something like that.

He tells Frieza to go full power before he goes SSJ and mentions Goku. Btw Friza didnt showed any proof of powering up.

It matters what is stated. Gohan stated SSJ Trunks = SSJ Goku ( Namek ) so if you have any good proof to show this wrong than post it here.
Ok if you believe that Trunks=Goku(Namek) that still doesn't mean he isn't stronger than Frieza.

Frieza only said he powered up, doesn't say how much. If I'm not mistaken Frieza could not read power levels without a scouter so for all he knows Goku is only slightly stronger than him on Namek.
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For now i belive in that theory and maybe i will stay on that.

Well yea you can belive in that but i have Mecha Frieza 100% > SSJ Goku ( Namek ).
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Super Vegetto
Jun 5 2012, 01:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6FboEQRRsI&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLDAB5625304256B9C

Gohan stated that SSJ Trunks has same ki as SSJ Goku.

By mentioning ki this should mean its pretty much by power, because there is no logic to say they have same ki if Gohan doesnt know ki from his father.

So could this basicly mean Mecha Frieza 100% > SSJ Trunks ?

Btw Mecha Frieza is stated to be in suppressed state or lets says 50% so he basicly never goes 100%.

No, there is no btw mech frieza was suppressed, trunks gave him every chance to go full power, and frieza tried to play it off. He was already in his final form.

Powering up for him didnt mean getting all bulky again.

trunks told him, if you have ANY chance of killing me you need to be at full strength.

so yeah, i would say that trunks ki, although the same? only equaled Gokus Ki at namek. making trunks just that much weaker than goku at full power. Which goku proved.

Would namek SSJ goku still be able to kill mecha frieza? Imho? yeah.
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