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The Final Settlement: SSJ or SSJ2 Gohan.; No more debating. Who believes what.
Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 10:44 PM (3,189 Views)
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- one stand to hair
- SSJ2 aura ( just in 1,2 scenes Gohan have SSJ aura but one stand to hair )

SSj Gohan always has one strand of hair from the beginning of the tournament onwards.
He had a SSj aura, not a SSj2 aura.

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And it's imposible for Gohan to be SSJ.
SSJ Gohan <<<< Dabura.
FP Dabura > Saiyaman SSJ2 > FP Perfect Cell = Dabura >>> MSSJ Kid Gohan >> SSJ Saiyaman
In SSJ , Dabura can one shot Gohan. Also , Gohan breaks Dabura sword , it's clearly in SSJ can't do this.

That's a power ranking you just made up though, it doesn't prove anything. Someone could also place Dabura slightly above/equal to SSj Gohan.
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Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P10.5-6
Context: as Gohan fights Dabra
Vegeta: “Damn it…this is pissing me off! Alright, I’ll finish this!”
Goku: “Don’t, Vegeta! Let [Gohan] do it. It ain’t like he’s completely losing.”

Complitly losing is basicly that he is loosing but still didnt lost.

Nah, to me it seems more like the quote could mean "not at a noticeable disadvantage". to each his own thought
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Teen GohanZ : AT never changed hair for Gohan. Sometimes it looks like Gohans hair is longer or sharper but its all in AT art work. He sometimes makes Gohan look better like in world tournament and sometimes realy messd up.

2 bangs is SSJ, and 1 SSJ2. Simple as that.

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Teen GohanZ : AT never changed hair for Gohan. Sometimes it looks like Gohans hair is longer or sharper but its all in AT art work. He sometimes makes Gohan look better like in world tournament and sometimes realy messd up.

Yes he did.

When Gohan transformed when Videl was getting beat: One bang
When Gohan transformed to pull the Z sword out: One bang
When Gohan was training with the Z sword: One bang
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Either Toriyama wanted to troll us, he's inconsistent, or he intentionally changed his hair style.
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Jun 5 2012, 07:02 PM
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Teen GohanZ : AT never changed hair for Gohan. Sometimes it looks like Gohans hair is longer or sharper but its all in AT art work. He sometimes makes Gohan look better like in world tournament and sometimes realy messd up.

Yes he did.

When Gohan transformed when Videl was getting beat: One bang
When Gohan transformed to pull the Z sword out: One bang
When Gohan was training with the Z sword: One bang
When Gohan transformed when Videl was getting beat: Reaching SSJ2
When Gohan transformed to pull the Z sword out: SSJ2
When Gohan was training with the Z sword: SSJ2

Simple as that
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Hmm alrighty then, if that's what you believe then I guess it makes sense for you to think he was SSj2 based on the hair.
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Well, there's another way to look at it.

Gohan was the first to unlock SSJ2.

It's possible that he somewhat mastered the form, and was able to suppress his lightning for whatever reason.
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Jun 5 2012, 07:25 PM
Hmm alrighty then, if that's what you believe then I guess it makes sense for you to think he was SSj2 based on the hair.
Its same with SSJ2 aura and lightning. I can say that it doesnt matter but someone else will say it matters. Art is last thing we use. Statments are on first place.

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I wish we had a friends' list of some sort so I could befriend all the people that believe Gohan is a Ssj1 against Dabura and onwards. I think we should ignore this topic because no one changes their mind.
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Jun 5 2012, 06:59 PM
Teen GohanZ : AT never changed hair for Gohan. Sometimes it looks like Gohans hair is longer or sharper but its all in AT art work. He sometimes makes Gohan look better like in world tournament and sometimes realy messd up.

2 bangs is SSJ, and 1 SSJ2. Simple as that.

Muhahahaha : Read again.

Explain this then.

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Anger is not a catalyst for Gohan to transform anymore, he even makes a statement explaining "its not like it was before" later on. He transformed into Super Saiyan 2 completely calm and at will in front of Kibito.
Sir, that is MSSJ Gohan drawn for the first time with his new hair design by AT whether you choose to believe it or not.

You cannot simply dispute that he was transforming, for what purpose? Spopovitch > MSSJ Gohan?




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Jun 6 2012, 12:12 AM
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Jun 5 2012, 06:59 PM
Teen GohanZ : AT never changed hair for Gohan. Sometimes it looks like Gohans hair is longer or sharper but its all in AT art work. He sometimes makes Gohan look better like in world tournament and sometimes realy messd up.

2 bangs is SSJ, and 1 SSJ2. Simple as that.

Muhahahaha : Read again.

Explain this then.

MSSJ
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Anger is not a catalyst for Gohan to transform anymore, he even makes a statement explaining "its not like it was before" later on. He transformed into Super Saiyan 2 completely calm and at will in front of Kibito.
Sir, that is MSSJ Gohan drawn for the first time with his new hair design by AT whether you choose to believe it or not.

You cannot simply dispute that he was transforming, for what purpose? Spopovitch > MSSJ Gohan?




Sir Dabura is on SPC level.


You sad he doesnt nead anger, then why is he not SSJ2 against Dabura and Majin boos shell ?

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Chapter: 471 (DBZ 277), P10.2-4
Kaioshin: “I want Gohan to use the Z Sword to defeat Majin Boo. Knowing him, he should definitely be able to use it.”
Kibito: “A-are you serious, Lord Kaioshin…?!! There’s no way that some human would be able to use the Z Sword!! That legendary sword which not merely myself, but numerous Kaioshins were utterly unable to handle…”
Kaioshin: “You were dead, Kibito, so you didn’t get to see Gohan here’s unbelievably tremendous power.”


This is SSJ2 Gohan. Deal with it.

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Just a note.

Gohan says he's already Full Power in the next page, or second next page of that scanlation.

I was reading it for a different purpose but noticed that.
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Jun 6 2012, 12:23 AM
Just a note.

Gohan says he's already Full Power in the next page, or second next page of that scanlation.

I was reading it for a different purpose but noticed that.
Thats a mistake. Majin boo is the one who he stated to achive full power.

Later Kaioshin stated that Gohan relised more power than on world tournament, yet he wasnt enraged.

Also doesnt make sence for Gohan to fight in SSJ if world depends on him.

Btw Daizenshuu 7 is more corrent about this thing than Daizenshuu 2.


Daizenshuu 2 :

They didn't even list his SSJ form in the entry at all, so they're not claiming he was SSJ after the tournament either. I can only theorize that the reason they didn't choose to add both forms, is because those writing it probably weren't sure at the time. When Daizenshuu 7 was released, they had likely consulted with Toriyama by then, and so they were able to give a clear statement on the matter, in Dabra's bio.

Gohan is SSJ2 but many here are ignoring the facts.

Btw : Daizenshuu 2 was first released August 9, 1995; Daizenshuu 7 was released the year after on February 25, 1996.
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I figured it was a mistake. I seriously hate that scanlation.

It has these stupid <untrans> moments, and the quality sucks. It's handy when I don't want to go to my room and break out the tankobons though.

Just reiterating, Gohan was SSJ2.
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