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The Final Settlement: SSJ or SSJ2 Gohan.; No more debating. Who believes what.
Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 10:44 PM (3,192 Views)
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Teen GohanZ
Jun 5 2012, 12:16 AM
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Edit: This isn't very conclusive either, as this is only the forum at this point in time. A lot of intelligent members have left, and more will come in the future, so the "majority" will probably change.

Are you trying to say SSj2 supporters aren't intelligent? :P

I really don't care which he is now. I still say he's SSj2 but I think there's an equal chance for both.
No, I just meant people come and go, and the general consensus will always be changing.
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SSJ - 3

SSJ2 - 8
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What exactly is this for?

"Go look at this thread. More people think he was Super Saiyan 2 so you're obviously wrong."
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Yeah, exactly, lol.

This thread only proves that there's more people who think he was SSJ2.

Whether he was SSJ2 or MSSJ, is an opinion. I'm all for having an opinion but the trouble comes with these 20 page long threads where people won't budge and impose their beliefs on others.
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The problem is because some people clearly still dont realize some statment and points.

Something like Gohan going SSJ2 against Kibito. He wasnt angry at all like he went SSJ2 against Cell. He was nervous because he doesnt know why he neads to go SSJ2. I dont see Gohan as a character that gets angry just by beeing ordered to go beyond SSJ.
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Jun 5 2012, 01:05 AM
The problem is because some people clearly still dont realize some statment and points.
Stuff like this is exactly what will start the debate.
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Some people flat out deny facts.

Daiz 7 says Gohan went SSJ2. That's an undeniable fact.

Like I said, you can discredit and deny what the Daiz says, but it's still an official fact as backed by Toriyama. *shrugs*
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The worst part about this is that the only character it even affects is Dabura. No other characters powers would be affected by it.

The Daiz is not 100% canon btw, it has many mistakes. Daiz is good for information and stuff, but I don't think you should blindly follow everything it says.
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Nah, I don't follow the Daiz 100% either, but at long as what it says isn't a complete flat out lie or mistake (like Tien fighting Android 19), then I'll go along with it.
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Jun 5 2012, 01:15 AM
Nah, I don't follow the Daiz 100% either, but at long as what it says isn't a complete flat out lie or mistake (like Tien fighting Android 19), then I'll go along with it.
Speaking of which, that would most likely be a typo by Herms.
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I always thought so. As I've mentioned before, none of us can really question the Daiz.

We can question the translation, but since we ourselves (or most of us) can't translate kanji, then we can't question it.
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Jun 5 2012, 01:11 AM
The worst part about this is that the only character it even affects is Dabura. No other characters powers would be affected by it.

The Daiz is not 100% canon btw, it has many mistakes. Daiz is good for information and stuff, but I don't think you should blindly follow everything it says.
Thing i do is if i can prove that Daizenshuu is right on some statment i stay on that, but if i cant i use my own statments or fan statments.

Manga > Daizenshuu > Fans in statments.

Also daizenshuu is clearly having some errors but just because it has mistakes doesnt mean that everything it says is wrong.
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Well Daiz 2 says he wasn't a Super Saiyan 2 so meh.

Like I said I'm more neutral on this now. I'll probably still believe he was a SSj2 unless Toriyama ever said otherwise but I really don't think it's right to claim it as a fact.
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Yes daizeshuu 2 says he never used SSJ2 after world tournament but daizenshuu 7 says he fought Dabura in SSJ2 and also says that Dabura is strong like Cell.

If one daizesnhuu says something and you can prove it wrong with other one, including statments and logic from manga you get Daizenshuu > Daizenshuu.
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You know me. Daizenshuu says he used it, so I agree.
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