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Fighting the troll DraginBallFights
Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 08:08 PM (444 Views)
pakl123456
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This guy has literally tons of followers on youtube and I have previously posted one of his videos on here to show you how idiotic he is.

Now however, I am taking it a step further. I am going to make a couple of threads and cover a few of his videos and prove why he is wrong.

I’m going to start off with the argument he makes about Gohan being
only SSJ vs movie 10 broly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlhRT0YBY9M

I will start with discrediting his points when he says Gohan’s hair as a SSJ or SSJ2 is the same during the world tourment and the only way to identify is the lightening, however if you look at the anime when gohan was watching buu’s shell, he was shown with two bangs stand so Toei still had this point of gohan’s hair. What i am trying to say here is that the hair is more true for Toriyama but was still the evidence of Toei. Also the movie should of taken place just before the tourment and in this time line Gohan’s hair was still his factor so thats why there was a diffrence in his hair. Gohan’s skin was also pale when he fought Broly. He was very pale and there is a diffrence between that skin to the ssj skin. You can see that in this site.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1607367-could-broly-destroy-kid-buu/24.htm

There is a picture of Goku’s comprasion as a SSJ and SSJ2. The skin is different so it's a good evidence dragonballfights also said in his video that gohan never went ssj2 before the tourment however this is completely bull***** because movies are alternative universe videl knew about the dragonballs and goten knew goku so it doesnt count dragonballfights states gohan needs rage to go ssj2 but gohan was also shown angry before he transformed against broly look at his face he was furious toei made videl goten and trunks half dead and gohan was angry and that was to show he was angry and he could of been a ssj2

dragonballfights also shows a picture of gohan after he said “its over” than he was shown with two bangs stand however it was not another bang first it was very thin and black another bang is larger and also yellow besides it can be because gohan went from ssj2 to mssj to base form and dragonballfights ignores that

now to the lightening thing you can see that in the manga toriyama adds lightening to any ssj2 but toei doesnt for example ssj2 vegeta vs kid buu had no lightening ssj2 goku and vegeta vs hirudegarn had no lightening ssj3 goku vs kid buu had no lightening toei only puts the lightening to the based off transformation for example goku had lightening in movie 12 because it was based off his fight vs fat buu gohan had lightening in movie 9 because it was based off the cell games so it was necessary in movie 13 goku had no lightening because he had no aura but gotenks had lightening but he had no aura as well so why did gotenks have lightening without aura? because gotenks said “i am a ssj3” so it was necessary to show the factors just like gohan vs kibito since the whole transformation was to show the factors of the ssj2 it was mentioned so it was necessary toei copied gohan’s look from the tourment to movie 10 he had no lightening from the same reasons i have mentioned it was unnecessary just like ssj2 veegta vs kid buu ssj3 goku vs kid buu or sssj2 goku and vegeta vs hirudegarn when vegeta was shown with an aura for longer time gohan did vs broly

dragonballfights doesnt understand the diffrence between toei to toriyama and thinks they are the same but its not the case for toriyama when goku said “get mad gohan just like you did in the cell games” he meant to gohan’s ssj2 form in the anime it can be diffrent because toei could of meant to gohan’s hidden powers which is beyond his limits and not his ssj2 form thats why gohan was shown with lightening when he was about to unleash his hidden powers vs buu’s shell and he remembered the way he beat cell but its not the case in the manga
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100324024461/dragonball/images
/7/7c/SSJ2_Gohan_proof_in_movie_10.JPG
this link is gohan’s design and it shows gohan used two forms in the movie and it says clear gohan was a ssj2 in movie 10 DragonBallFights says toei wanted gohan to look awesome but those are purely assumptions

when base saiyan powers up to a ssj2 or ssj2 powers up to a ssj3 he doesnt have lightening like base vegeta powers up to ssj2 vs hirudegarn or base vegeta powers up to ssj2 vs kid buu or ssj2 goku powers up to ssj3 vs kid buu when someone powers up from ssj to ssj2 he has lightening becuase it has to show the diffrence
yet goku had the lightening even if he went from ssj2 to ssj3 because it was necessary since it was based off the fight vs fat buu dragonballfights also said daizenshuu states gohan was a ssj but he lies because daizenshuu ex states gohan was a ssj2
http://www.daizex.com/guides/transformations/movie_characters/
watch this in broly’s transformation it says “it isnt until gohan
arrives and is forced to go ssj2”
the very daizenshuu states ssj broly>ssj goku
http://www.kanzentai.com/trans-daiz06.php?m=13&id=dbz10#link
this is the link when it says ssj broly>ssj goku however i dont count the daizenshuu it has flaws but i only mention the daiz to show DragonBallFights lies

in the manga gohan was a ssj when he fought dabura and relased the z sword yet in the anime gohan could of been a ssj2 vs dabura and a ssj2 when he pulled out the z sword thats why he was shwon with lightening when he released the z sword and thats why vegeta never stopped complaining gohan was stronger when he was a kid because in the anime gohan could of been a ssj2 vs dabura and when he released the z sword but when goku states gohan to get mad he means that his power needs to be beyond his limits thats why gohan remembered in the anime how he killed cell while in the manga toriyama refers to gohan’s ssj2 when gohan was about to transform vs broly he charged his power for a pretty long time while he went ssj in an instant when he was half dead after broly made him suffer

when gohan went ssj2 he was shown with some white lightening if you could of noticed use this video
http://v.265up.com/jcb/27436.html
its the movie in the japanese dub when gohan goes ssj2 his hidden powers were clearly released and gohan sounded his deep scream that symbolizes his hidden powers broly also got a huge zenkai gohan states “broly is a bad a monster as ever” and he talked about his power because he also said i had powered up since then which means he saw broly got a lot stronger so he can do nothing to
http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/1/19/Broly%28Daiz6%29.png
this link is broly’s design
him the design of broly also states broly’s strength increased the design of broly states broly’s strength increased


toei also always does the new warrirs the strongest thats wh they made kid buu>buuhan in the anime so do you really think they would make broly so weak and gohan was only a ssj? no way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFdJSGGaScE
in this video in minute 12:37 goku states kid buu is stronger than any buu and that also includes buuhan toei always does the new villian the strongest so obviously they will make broly the best also in this video when goku goes ssj2 he has the same deep voice when gohan went ssj2 vs broly and no transformation has this scream you can compare this if you use goku when he went ssj3 in this video he doesnt have this deep scream


Supposedly dead, Broli continued to be revived in two movies, “The Dangerous Duo!!~" and “Super-Warrior Defeat!!~". Broli is the first enemy to appear three times in the movies. We asked the producer Mori*****a Kouzou the reason for this... “Broli was just that strong, so at the end of “Burn Up!!~", I figured he wasn’t dead. At any rate, it’s because he was set up as the strongest Saiyan." If you think about Goku and Vegeta’s life force, I guess you can also grasp the tenaciousness of the Legendary Super Saiyan Broli?

this is what the producer of movie 10 says about broly that he was so strong so he realized he was still alive and made a new movie and that proves he wanted broly to be much stronger
http://www.kanzentai.com/trans-daiz06.php?m=19&id=memorials#link
this is the link when the prducer says that

well this is pretty much shows my point
I think I will move on to his Kid Buu's fanboys videos.
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