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Fusion Characters; Personality
Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 08:01 PM (1,094 Views)
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Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans

Is the resulting personality of a fusion always arrogant and cocky or was it due to typical Saiyan pride (i.e. trunks and Vegeta)?
We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.
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I'll say Saiyan pride.
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Gotenks is made by AT. AT made him acting like that because he loves joke fights.

Vegetto is more serious when he fuse and he basicly provocated Boohan to absorb him, so for Vegetto we cant say same like for Gotenks.
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Another fusion we got to see was the potara fusion of Kibito Kai. He was sort of arrogant and initially wanted to go face Majin Buu after he fused too.
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Sora
Jun 4 2012, 08:03 PM
Another fusion we got to see was the potara fusion of Kibito Kai. He was sort of arrogant and initially wanted to go face Majin Buu after he fused too.
Yea i forgot about him.

I have always wondering how strong he becomed. Maybe after sencing Gohans power and compering to himself he stated he is stronger so he acts confident.

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I believe the sheer power leads to over confidence in ones ability.

Think about it,

If you could only run 6 miles, then fused and could run 600... Wouldn't you be like "Let's do this!"
Problem is the opponent runs 60,000 miles. At least in Kabitio Kai's case.


Edit: He is NOT stronger than mystic Gohan. Not even close, lol.
Edited by amsmagic, Jun 4 2012, 08:09 PM.
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amsmagic
Jun 4 2012, 08:08 PM
I believe the sheer power leads to over confidence in ones ability.

Think about it,

If you could only run 6 miles, then fused and could run 600... Wouldn't you be like "Let's do this!"
Problem is the opponent runs 60,000 miles. At least in Kabitio Kai's case.


Edit: He is NOT stronger than mystic Gohan. Not even close, lol.
Yes overconfident because he never exp that kind of power.

No proof that he is not stronger than Mystic Gohan.
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Super Vegetto
Jun 4 2012, 08:11 PM
amsmagic
Jun 4 2012, 08:08 PM
I believe the sheer power leads to over confidence in ones ability.

Think about it,

If you could only run 6 miles, then fused and could run 600... Wouldn't you be like "Let's do this!"
Problem is the opponent runs 60,000 miles. At least in Kabitio Kai's case.


Edit: He is NOT stronger than mystic Gohan. Not even close, lol.
Yes overconfident because he never exp that kind of power.

No proof that he is not stronger than Mystic Gohan.
Supreme Kai and Kabitio fused would still not rival Super Boo

Supreme Kai is >= Piccolo at BEST
Kabitio <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dabura
Supreme Kai<<<<<<<<< Dabura

Dabura one shots him and could supreme Kai

Now,

SSJ2 Gohan is about <= Dabura. (If Gohan was fighting as a SSJ, Dabura is ridiculously weak. But let's say Gohan is a SSJ2 for this)


I would say Kabito + Supreme Kai >> Dabura
They clear the gap and surpass him. That's a huge feat for ones so weak.

But Mystic Gohan is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dabura

EDIT: I'll try and number this. I'm getting into it because I just recently rewatched the buu saga to stay hip with all these immature debates sprouting up :P

Now.

Piccilo - 11
Supreme Kai - 12 (AT BEST)
Kabitio - 9
Dabura - 20
SSJ2 Gohan - 20
Mystic Gohan - 50
Kabitio Kai - 21
Edited by amsmagic, Jun 4 2012, 08:30 PM.
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Yea but we talk about potara not regular fusion. Power comes from potara not from fighters.
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Jun 4 2012, 08:29 PM
Yea but we talk about potara not regular fusion. Power comes from potara not from fighters.
I haven't seen that stated anywhere. Potara still comes from the fighters, it's just a stronger fusion, and the only examples we have are Vegeta and Goku. And they got a rival boost. Maybe that's why their so much stronger than regular fusion.
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Sorry for double posting, my iPad is acting weird and won't let me edit.


I just rewatched the anime remastered episode.

Kabitio Kai doesn't make any reference to Gohan in the least. He just becomes surprised by his power and wants to HELP fight buu.

We know that SSJ3 Goku < Mystic Gohan

Old Kai says "You'll just get in the way."

That makes Mystic Gohan >> SSJ3 Goku >>>>>> Kabitio Kai.

If that's not enough proof, I don't know what else to say.
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You havent see this stated anywhere ?

8. Potara [#BO3#POT]
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.”
Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”


No. Fusion comes from fighters while Potara is from fighters and basicly Potara. Many peoples disagree and say that rival boost is what makes Vegetto stronger, yet its stated that rival boost is only addition to actual power they got.

Gogeta also has rival boost because same persons are fused, so no logic to say Vegetto with rival boost > Gogeta because they both have rival boost.
Potara is what makes them strong.


Anime means nothing. But here is something from daizenshuu books :

Daizenshuu 4 :

06 ~ Potara
The much-valued treasure of the Kaioshin. If two people take one each and fit it on their respective ears, one on the left and one on the right, in an instant they will unite together and power up. The principle is the same as the Fusion technique, but the effect is greater than Fusion. Furthermore, since this union cannot be cancelled, it doesn't have the weakness of running out of time and the two returning to normal. This union is only removed inside the body of Majin Buu.

Daizenshuu 7 :

Ear decorations worn by Kaioshins and their attendants for generations. Despite being worn so casually, they're actually an incredible power-up item. The Elder Kaioshin gave them to Goku as a trump card for defeating Majin Buu.

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Super Vegetto
Jun 4 2012, 10:30 PM
You havent see this stated anywhere ?

8. Potara [#BO3#POT]
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.”
Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”


No. Fusion comes from fighters while Potara is from fighters and basicly Potara. Many peoples disagree and say that rival boost is what makes Vegetto stronger, yet its stated that rival boost is only addition to actualy power they got.

Btw Gogeta also has rival boost because same persons are fused, so no logic to say Vegetto with rival boost > Gogeta because they both have rival boost.
Potara is what makes them strong.


Anime means nothing. But here is something from daizenshuu :

06 ~ Potara
The much-valued treasure of the Kaioshin. If two people take one each and fit it on their respective ears, one on the left and one on the right, in an instant they will unite together and power up. The principle is the same as the Fusion technique, but the effect is GREATER than Fusion. Furthermore, since this union cannot be cancelled, it doesn't have the weakness of running out of time and the two returning to normal. This union is only removed inside the body of Majin Buu.


Ok I'll agree with you on that much, but I don't think you read my previous post, and i stand with it.

Could you make a comment towards that post? Because you might be able to open my eyes. I'm weak in relations with Manga.
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IMO, for all the boosts it grants its users, its not without its setback, blindin arrogance.

Keepin Gotenks aside, Vegito was more of arrogance, backed up by power. Anyway, its better in my eyes.

Kibito-Kaioshin also demonstrated similar attitude, despite Supreme Kai's polite demeanor (he is by far, the most polite character I knw in DBZ).

Its not typical Saiyan pride, for I agree on Vegeta, not with Trunks.
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Jun 4 2012, 10:48 PM
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Jun 4 2012, 10:30 PM
You havent see this stated anywhere ?

8. Potara [#BO3#POT]
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.”
Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P1.3
Context: Goku asks if he should become a Super Saiyan before merging with the Potara, and Elder Kaioshin advices against it
Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”


No. Fusion comes from fighters while Potara is from fighters and basicly Potara. Many peoples disagree and say that rival boost is what makes Vegetto stronger, yet its stated that rival boost is only addition to actualy power they got.

Btw Gogeta also has rival boost because same persons are fused, so no logic to say Vegetto with rival boost > Gogeta because they both have rival boost.
Potara is what makes them strong.


Anime means nothing. But here is something from daizenshuu :

06 ~ Potara
The much-valued treasure of the Kaioshin. If two people take one each and fit it on their respective ears, one on the left and one on the right, in an instant they will unite together and power up. The principle is the same as the Fusion technique, but the effect is GREATER than Fusion. Furthermore, since this union cannot be cancelled, it doesn't have the weakness of running out of time and the two returning to normal. This union is only removed inside the body of Majin Buu.


Ok I'll agree with you on that much, but I don't think you read my previous post, and i stand with it.

Could you make a comment towards that post? Because you might be able to open my eyes. I'm weak in relations with Manga.
Btw i edited because there is another proof of Potara beeing power up item.

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