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SSJ3 goku > Mystic Gohan, and this is why.....
Topic Started: Jun 2 2012, 05:15 PM (4,990 Views)
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Son Gohan
Jun 3 2012, 12:23 AM
havoc_wreaker
Jun 2 2012, 10:12 PM
Guys please stop doubleposting and callingnamesif he thinks what he wrote is the truth then so be it u guysdont have to rip on him so much 99percent ofthis forum thinks that gohan was stronger thengoku

So what if that one percent thinks otherwise , dnt let it trouble u and u guys just conintue onur day and havefun.


Ps im writingthis on a tablet its super hard
Yes, thank you.

If you do use Daizenshuu and anime as canon, it is perfectly acceptable to have Gohan < Goku.

Just let him believe what he wants, it can be plausible for Gohan < Goku if you follow guidebooks and anime. I say we just agree that if manga is canon, Goku < Gohan, but if anime and guidebooks are canon, Gohan < Goku.

Fair?
He thinks Goku>Gohan in the Manga though.
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Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs
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Except he's taking vague statements from the manga that can be interpreted either way, and supporting his own interpretation with anime and guidebooks.

Without anime and guidebooks, chances are, he would lean the other way on the vague manga statements
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Except the guidebooks don't agree with his point of view.
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Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs
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Then he shall be crucified by dawn!

*RAGE*
Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Jun 3 2012, 05:37 AM.
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Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs
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Look, he's already gone, you guys scared him away.
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Darth Pyrus
Jun 3 2012, 05:33 AM
Except the guidebooks don't agree with his point of view.
At all, his entire argument is based on statements taken out of context. Completely.
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Jun 3 2012, 05:25 AM
Except he's taking vague statements from the manga that can be interpreted either way, and supporting his own interpretation with anime and guidebooks.

Without anime and guidebooks, chances are, he would lean the other way on the vague manga statements

Also if you want to start arguing that the Daizenshuu is canon then here you go;

quote Daizenshuu 2- Story Guide. Growing Up
Dormant power that knows no bottom, even though he was trained from infancy.

Gohan is an elite who easily handled the training he was put through since the age of four in order to fight enormous enemies. As a Saiyan and Earthling half-breed, Gohan possesses dormant power that surpasses that of a Saiyan. While by nature he has a calm personality and isn't interested in fighting, when he loses his reason his true power explodes.
quote Daizenshuu 2- Story Guide. Growing Up
MIGHTIEST WARRIOR
First Appears: Vol. 41

In order to defeat Majin Buu, he had his dormant power drawn out by the Elder Kaioshin. Even without becoming a Super Saiyan, he has power surpassing Gotenks.
That is a flat out Mightiest Warrior Gohan>>Pure blooded Saiyan, and thus Mightiest Warrior Gohan>>SSjin3 Goku statement.

Not only that, it appears as if this is implying that Gotenks was the next strongest fighter after Gohan.
Furthermore evidence from the Daizenshuu suggesting Gotenks>Goku;

quote Daizenshuu 2- Story Guide. Growing Up
Like Gohan and Goten, being half Saiyan and half Earthling, his dormant power is high.

quote Daizenshuu 2- Story Guide. Growing Up
As a Saiyan and Earthling half-breed, Gohan possesses dormant power that surpasses that of a Saiyan.
This all implies that the half-breeds have more hidden power/dormant ability than the pure bloods.
Now this is how the Daizenshuu describes SSjin3;

quote Daizenshuu 7- Dragonball Encyclopedia. Special Attack Dictionary
The strongest form of Super Saiyan, which draws the hidden power of a Saiyan out to its limits.
So once again that means at the very least SSjin3 Gotenks>SSjin3 Goku.

Gohan>Gotenks>>Goku is uncontradicted manga fact which is backed up by the Daizenshuu and statements/feats in the manga.

Simple as that.
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You guys never debunked my 7 points therefore Goku>Gohan>Gotenks. Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta as a SSJ3. That means Base Vegeta>Base Gotenks and SSJ Vegeta>SSJ Gotenks. SSJ Gotenks Pre Rosat is around Piccolo's level. SSJ Gotenks Post Rosat had surpassed Piccolo but still weaker than SSJ Goku. Unless you guys can prove me wrong so my points still hold.
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whatever dude, the cold part is you made no points. so im not really feeling you.

The manga speaks for itself and the anime is an adaptation for television, having its own universe.

what you perceive as truth makes no sense because you seem to disregard the creators own admissions. No one here is going to take you seriously.
Right now, you are worse off than Jor-El was with the kryptonian people.

But its quite obvious to ME, that the anime universe sticks to the gohan>goku theorem. He does as an SSj2(post z sword), and he does as the ultimate warrior. Not much else to discuss.
Edited by Paikuan extreme, Jun 3 2012, 09:57 AM.
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Jun 3 2012, 09:55 AM
whatever dude, the cold part is you made no points. so im not really feeling you.

The manga speaks for itself and the anime is an adaptation for television, having its own universe.

what you perceive as truth makes no sense because you seem to disregard the creators own admissions. No one here is going to take you seriously.
Right now, you are worse off than Jor-El was with the kryptonian people.

But its quite obvious to ME, that the anime universe sticks to the gohan>goku theorem. He does as an SSj2(post z sword), and he does as the ultimate warrior. Not much else to discuss.
You have shown me no proof to debunk my point therefore my interpretation holds.
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Nobody cares about debunking your interpretation. Because it's just that. Your interpretation.

Now you (and MoDB) can keep living in a fantasy realm where SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan, and be met with confrontation in every thread where you say that delusional garbage, or come back down to manga reality, where anime isn't canon.

Your choice.
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GridZero
Jun 3 2012, 03:11 PM
Nobody cares about debunking your interpretation. Because it's just that. Your interpretation.

Now you (and MoDB) can keep living in a fantasy realm where SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan, and be met with confrontation in every thread where you say that delusional garbage, or come back down to manga reality, where anime isn't canon.

Your choice.
You never debunked my points so my interpretation still holds. Manga states Goku>Gohan. Daizenshuu, Anime and Manga send the same message and same facts. Vegeta said Goku is #1 and only one capable of fighting Buu.

Daizenshuu 2 : "Goku's feelings are only understood by his fellow strongest."
Daizenshuu 4: "Q: Out of all your characters, which one is the most cool?
A: "I think it's Goku." The always pure strongest in the universe. Goku is #1 after all!"
Daizenshuu 2: "Goku was the only one who could fight Buu."
Daizenshuu 2: " He continues to always seek the strongest! Having gotten Buu to be reincarnated, Goku waited for him above all else."
Officially Goku > Gohan. You just have to deal with it

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GokuIsMyFriend
Jun 3 2012, 09:39 AM
You guys never debunked my 7 points therefore Goku>Gohan>Gotenks. Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta as a SSJ3. That means Base Vegeta>Base Gotenks and SSJ Vegeta>SSJ Gotenks. SSJ Gotenks Pre Rosat is around Piccolo's level. SSJ Gotenks Post Rosat had surpassed Piccolo but still weaker than SSJ Goku. Unless you guys can prove me wrong so my points still hold.
I did.
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Jun 3 2012, 03:40 PM
GokuIsMyFriend
Jun 3 2012, 09:39 AM
You guys never debunked my 7 points therefore Goku>Gohan>Gotenks. Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta as a SSJ3. That means Base Vegeta>Base Gotenks and SSJ Vegeta>SSJ Gotenks. SSJ Gotenks Pre Rosat is around Piccolo's level. SSJ Gotenks Post Rosat had surpassed Piccolo but still weaker than SSJ Goku. Unless you guys can prove me wrong so my points still hold.
I did.
You didn't reply to my last post. Pakl123456 did. Did he debunk me???? Hmmm, no.



Daizenshuu 2 : "Goku's feelings are only understood by his fellow strongest."
Daizenshuu 4: "Q: Out of all your characters, which one is the most cool?
A: "I think it's Goku." The always pure strongest in the universe. Goku is #1 after all!"
Daizenshuu 2: "Goku was the only one who could fight Buu."
Daizenshuu 2: " He continues to always seek the strongest! Having gotten Buu to be reincarnated, Goku waited for him above all else."
Officially Goku > Gohan. You just have to deal with it
Edited by GokuIsMyFriend, Jun 3 2012, 03:42 PM.
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Manga states that Goku > Gohan?

Bull.

Yeah right.
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