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Poor Pan
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 2 2012, 01:59 PM (3,350 Views)
~~GridZero~~	Jun 10 2012, 04:03 PM Post #46
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Her dub doesn't change the fact that she cried when she got hit with an empty can of soda over the head. Fail.



Warrior-Elite	Jun 10 2012, 05:36 PM Post #47
Posts: 1,360 Group: Member Member #4,528 Joined: October 18, 2009 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga N/A	Well for me Pan was one of the reasons why i disliked GT. I dont know i just couldn't handle her, she was just to annoying for her own good. Like when ever pan and kid goku were together, it just showed me how much a kids show this is which i hated because we had just finished dbz which was the complete opposite full of violence and sadistic villain. It just looked like a dumbed down the show, and tried copying dragonball a tad too much. Not only that by introducing Pan, characters such as Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, piccolo and Uub had less screen time, which annoyed me. I aint hating on Pan, i actually liked her EOZ. Dont know what happened to her in GT, maybe if she wasnt a main character and instead a side character maybe GT would of been more tolerable, im just saying. Edited by Warrior-Elite, Jun 10 2012, 06:59 PM.
	"Every breath you take is an assault to my honor."


Paste-Ninja	Jun 10 2012, 06:11 PM Post #48
Shadow of the Anbu Black Ops Posts: 1,453 Group: Member Member #7,580 Joined: April 28, 2012 Gender Female Favourite Anime Naruto,FMA: Brotherhood, Kuruko's Basketball, Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Naruto, One Piece, Hajime no Ippo, Bakuman, FMA Brotherhood	Pan's voice is just annoying. If Goten had gone with them instead of Pan, he's got humor unlike Pan, she's always moaning -.-
	I'm just a piece of trash.. but there are things I learned. The hole in your heart is something other people can fill. If you reject your friends' feelings and this world.. Just because something didn't go as you wished, no one will ever come to you. And so that hole won't be filled either, if you just run away without doing anything people won't do anything for you either.. As long as you don't give up, you can still be saved


~~CatouttaHell~~	Jun 10 2012, 07:35 PM Post #49
God of Destruction Posts: 483 Group: Suspended Member #5,477 Joined: December 6, 2010 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	GridZero Jun 10 2012, 04:03 PM Her dub doesn't change the fact that she cried when she got hit with an empty can of soda over the head. Fail. Yeah a 9 year old girl crying because a can of soda hit her on the head is so much worse than a grown man throwing a fit over seeing a needle or a worm that he could just one-shot with an uncharged Ki blast. Fail.



~~GridZero~~	Jun 10 2012, 07:46 PM Post #50
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Why does everyone try to keep justifying Pan's failure with the Soda Can with Goku's fear of needles? IIRC, Goku's fear of needles is filler.



+ Clearin	Jun 10 2012, 07:47 PM Post #51
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	GridZero Jun 10 2012, 07:46 PM Why does everyone try to keep justifying Pan's failure with the Soda Can with Goku's fear of needles? IIRC, Goku's fear of needles is filler. So is Pan getting hit on the head with a soda can. Along with the rest of GT.



~~GridZero~~	Jun 10 2012, 07:49 PM Post #52
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	My point is that they're both written by Toei (or one of Toriyama's editors) They can make characters as equally stupid as they want, but Goku's fear of needles is non-existent in the manga, so it shouldn't be comparable.



Megasaiyan	Jun 10 2012, 09:17 PM Post #53
Osz Karoly Szilard Posts: 977 Group: Member Member #7,360 Joined: February 25, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Haven't read any yet	Strawberry Jun 3 2012, 05:11 PM Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri Jun 3 2012, 06:30 AM Rebel X Jun 3 2012, 06:12 AM Id have to watch Gt again to really remember EXACTLY why shes got so much hate. Thing is the females were never had personalities that were 100% appealing. AT made them all somewhat annoying. Pan carried the same trend. She should've been a super saiyan. Goten amd Uub should've had bigger roles. I didn't like the Goku being a kid again Toriyama DID create some appealin characters. Personally, I felt 18 stood out as special amon the other stereotypical girls of DBZ. Videl comes next. I totally agree. I think even Bulma was a really strong female character. She could get annoying occasionally, but she was mostly just really funny and one of the very few female characters who stayed revelant throughout most of the series -- without even being a fighter. Bulma, annoying, occasionaly?! More like always.



Warrior-Elite	Jun 10 2012, 09:23 PM Post #54
Posts: 1,360 Group: Member Member #4,528 Joined: October 18, 2009 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga N/A	Megasaiyan Jun 10 2012, 09:17 PM Strawberry Jun 3 2012, 05:11 PM Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri Jun 3 2012, 06:30 AM Rebel X Jun 3 2012, 06:12 AM Id have to watch Gt again to really remember EXACTLY why shes got so much hate. Thing is the females were never had personalities that were 100% appealing. AT made them all somewhat annoying. Pan carried the same trend. She should've been a super saiyan. Goten amd Uub should've had bigger roles. I didn't like the Goku being a kid again Toriyama DID create some appealin characters. Personally, I felt 18 stood out as special amon the other stereotypical girls of DBZ. Videl comes next. I totally agree. I think even Bulma was a really strong female character. She could get annoying occasionally, but she was mostly just really funny and one of the very few female characters who stayed revelant throughout most of the series -- without even being a fighter. Bulma, annoying, occasionaly?! More like always. i agree i couldnt stand here in the namek and frieza saga
	"Every breath you take is an assault to my honor."


Kblo247	Jun 11 2012, 12:19 AM Post #55
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	GridZero Jun 10 2012, 07:49 PM My point is that they're both written by Toei (or one of Toriyama's editors) They can make characters as equally stupid as they want, but Goku's fear of needles is non-existent in the manga, so it shouldn't be comparable. Going by this logic, Pan has no fear whatsoever in the manga, not even of fighting her fellow saiyans or Buu as a toddler. She's the bravest one of them all Going by Toei logic she cried, but she whipped Gotens behind once to end Z and was ready to whoop SSJ Gotens @ss which is why Gohan had to protect him form her.



DBZAOTA482	Jun 11 2012, 12:22 AM Post #56
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	CatouttaHell Jun 10 2012, 07:35 PM GridZero Jun 10 2012, 04:03 PM Her dub doesn't change the fact that she cried when she got hit with an empty can of soda over the head. Fail. Yeah a 9 year old girl crying because a can of soda hit her on the head is so much worse than a grown man throwing a fit over seeing a needle or a worm that he could just one-shot with an uncharged Ki blast. Fail. Justification: Goku had just about every bone broken in his body and worms (when they're really close up) ARE indeed puke-inducing. Plus there are menchildren everywhere that can relate to Goku's needle phobia.



~~GridZero~~	Jun 11 2012, 12:34 AM Post #57
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Kblo247 Jun 11 2012, 12:19 AM GridZero Jun 10 2012, 07:49 PM My point is that they're both written by Toei (or one of Toriyama's editors) They can make characters as equally stupid as they want, but Goku's fear of needles is non-existent in the manga, so it shouldn't be comparable. Going by this logic, Pan has no fear whatsoever in the manga, not even of fighting her fellow saiyans or Buu as a toddler. She's the bravest one of them all Going by Toei logic she cried, but she whipped Gotens behind once to end Z and was ready to whoop SSJ Gotens @ss which is why Gohan had to protect him form her. Well, you hit the nail on the head. I don't see why she'd cry over an empty can of soda hitting her head. Keep in mind Pan can tank attacks that can take chunks out of the Earth, yet she cries when hit with a can of soda? Yeah, that makes a bunch of sense.



Pookie	Jun 11 2012, 01:38 AM Post #58
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	Why oh why Pan? I have expressed my hate towards Pan for a long time. I'm going to say why I hate Pan. The reason why I hate Pan is because she is the representation of how all the females were treated in the show. When I first saw Pan, I was thinking maybe she will be a strong character that can be part of the Z fighters. Granted, I was very bitter on how my favorite character, chichi, was treated throughout the show, but I still wanted to cheer for Pan and wanted to see her turn super saiyan. I did the same thing with Bra, but she was also a waste of space too. The fact that bra and pan actually has saiyan blood and did ABSOLUTELY nothing is so disappointing. Pan as strong as she was was always being the victim. I don't think she contributed very much now that I remember. Most of the time I saw her get beat up and have to be rescued by Goku. For crying out loud, Goku rescued Pan more times than I can remember. I do remember that Gohan was a cry baby as well when he was a kid, but he contributed more than being a target. Pan did not do the same thing. Pan was more in love with her grandfather than her own father Gohan. It's another reason why Pan pisses me off. I don't think Gohan had any significance in her life. If he did, she did not show it much from what I remember. There are more reasons why I hate Pan, but I made this post long enough so I'd rather just leave it at that.



#18	Jun 14 2012, 11:21 AM Post #59
Posts: 19 Group: New Member Member #7,692 Joined: May 31, 2012	Pookie Jun 11 2012, 01:38 AM The fact that bra and pan actually has saiyan blood and did ABSOLUTELY nothing is so disappointing. ^That so much. I don't particularly hate Pan, I was just majorly disappointed with her in GT. (But then I found GT in itself disappointing) She's the granddaughter of Goku and Chichi and the daughter of Gohan and Videl, I expected a really interesting character and I just found her to be a total let down. Gohan was younger than her and dealt with things way better then she did. EoZ Pan was an adorable, sweet, strong kid and part of the reason I was so looking forward to watching GT. GT Pan made me facepalm so much.



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