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Topic Started: Jun 2 2012, 10:45 AM (2,553 Views)
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Jun 2 2012, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Fusion Dance could have a rival boost since it was never stated that it didn't have one.
IMO, Fusion Dance with rival boost makes Gogeta ~ Vegetto.
That makes perfect sense since it's the same two people fusing with the same rival boost. If it does, I'd still have potara a good deal stronger than the dance.
Old Kai says that the Potara Earrings are just so amazing, that even Base Vegetto could fight against Gohan-Boo.
And Daizenshuu says it's stronger than the Dance.
*shrugs*
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Jun 2 2012, 03:26 PM
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Well Gogeta neads to have rival boost. I mean its same person so ofc Gogeta has rival boost.
It's arguable whether or not fusion dance itself has rival boost. Its all in potara. Old kai explaining Rival boost is like small boost compering to power of Potara.
Also it wouldnt make sence for fusion to not give rival boost to same persons fusing.
I have Potara > Fusion.
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Jun 2 2012, 03:27 PM
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Trunks and Goten cant go SSJ3. That doesnt mean that they cant push fusion to SSJ3 level.
That's because Gotenks is hybrid and hybrid's hidden powers are special and far above Pure Saiyans so they can easily master a form. Vegeta can't so SSJ Gogeta>Super Buu.
wtf are you saying? Hybrids>>Pure Saiyans. Go and read the Manga when Vegeta said Hybrid makes your hidden powers far greater than Pure Saiyans. Gotenks was able to go SSJ3 just like Gohan surpassed Goku in the Rosat and Buu Arc.
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Jun 2 2012, 03:28 PM
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SSjin 2 Vegeta <<<<< Fat Boo (Maximum) < Fat Janemba << SSjin 3 Goku (Maximum) < SSjin Gotenks << Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) ~ Super Janemba << SSjin Gotenks ~ Super Janemba (Maximum) <<<< SSjin Gogeta < SSjin 2 Gotenks <<<< Evil Boo (Maximum)
So I think that...
SSJ Gogeta was stated to be able to own Super Buu.
When that was even stated ?
When Goku stated he and Vegeta are no match for Super Buu unless they fuse.
he maybe means fuse into SSjin 3 Gogeta not SSjin Gogeta , SSjin Gogeta is <= SSjin 2 Gotenks so they don't stand a chance against him if they uses the SSjin form .
And where was it said SSJ Gogeta=SSJ2 Gotenks? That makes no sense. Gogeta can't be SSJ3 since Vegeta can't master it. SSJ Gogeta>Super Buu=Fact. Your logic proves SSJ Goku is only 2x above SSJ Goten when he is massively more than that. SSJ Gogeta=Mystic Gohan IMO.
I have The kids pre Rosat 30% of SSjin Goku's max and I have the Post Rosat kids 75%of SSjin Goku's max that's why I say SSjinGogeta<= SSjin 2 Gotenks and why do you say SSjin Gogeta = Mystic Gohan that can't be if that's was then he will be <<<<<<<<<Super Buu and that make no sense.
Goku said their fusion would own Super Buu so SSJ Gogeta>>>Super Buu. Goku talked about SSJ Gogeta since Vegeta can't go SSJ3. Also, I have SSJ Goten before Rosat 15% of Goku's power. Anyway SSJ Gogeta>Super Buu is a fact and they are stronger since they are rivals as well. if one of the fuses can go SSjin 3 the result of the fusion can also becomes SSjin 3 .
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Jun 2 2012, 03:28 PM
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Trunks and Goten cant go SSJ3. That doesnt mean that they cant push fusion to SSJ3 level.
That's because Gotenks is hybrid and hybrid's hidden powers are special and far above Pure Saiyans so they can easily master a form. Vegeta can't so SSJ Gogeta>Super Buu.
wtf are you saying?
Hybrids>>Pure Saiyans. Go and read the Manga when Vegeta said Hybrid makes your hidden powers far greater than Pure Saiyans. Gotenks was able to go SSJ3 just like Gohan surpassed Goku in the Rosat and Buu Arc. btursghksdfjlskgnh
goten and trunks can go SSjin individually.
in fusion, they can go SSjin 3
Goku alone can go SSjin 3
Vegeta alone can go SSjin 2
What makes you think that Gogeta wouldn't be able to go SSjin 3, when one half of him could go SSjin 3, and the other half could go SSjin 2?
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Jun 2 2012, 03:30 PM
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- Jun 2 2012, 03:24 PM
Yeah, exactly. Fusion Dance could have a rival boost since it was never stated that it didn't have one.
IMO, Fusion Dance with rival boost makes Gogeta ~ Vegetto.
That makes perfect sense since it's the same two people fusing with the same rival boost. Vegito>>>Gogeta.
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6 Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.” Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?” Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”
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Jun 2 2012, 03:32 PM
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Trunks and Goten cant go SSJ3. That doesnt mean that they cant push fusion to SSJ3 level.
That's because Gotenks is hybrid and hybrid's hidden powers are special and far above Pure Saiyans so they can easily master a form. Vegeta can't so SSJ Gogeta>Super Buu.
wtf are you saying?
Hybrids>>Pure Saiyans. Go and read the Manga when Vegeta said Hybrid makes your hidden powers far greater than Pure Saiyans. Gotenks was able to go SSJ3 just like Gohan surpassed Goku in the Rosat and Buu Arc.
btursghksdfjlskgnh goten and trunks can go SSjin individually. in fusion, they can go SSjin 3 Goku alone can go SSjin 3 Vegeta alone can go SSjin 2 What makes you think that Gogeta wouldn't be able to go SSjin 3, when one half of him could go SSjin 3, and the other half could go SSjin 2? Vegeta can't go SSJ3. Gotenks did since they are hybrids so they can gain power faster and also gained it during training. Gogeta had no time to train and would never acheive it. SSJ Gogeta>Super Buu is a fact. He said Base Form of Gohan and Goku would beat Buuhan not Vegeta. This is also why Vegito transformed since Buuhan>>Base Vegito.
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Jun 2 2012, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Fusion Dance could have a rival boost since it was never stated that it didn't have one.
IMO, Fusion Dance with rival boost makes Gogeta ~ Vegetto.
That makes perfect sense since it's the same two people fusing with the same rival boost.
Vegito>>>Gogeta. Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6 Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.” Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?” Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.” Ugh, I never said regardless.
Don't twist my words.
And obviously the effect is greater if you're fused forever and have a boost because the fusion requires rivals.
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He never mentioned rival boost until he realized that both of them are rivals. Pretty much rival boost is not what makes them strong.
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Wait, is he saying Gogeta can't go SSJ3? Or SSJ2?
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Yeah, exactly. Fusion Dance could have a rival boost since it was never stated that it didn't have one.
IMO, Fusion Dance with rival boost makes Gogeta ~ Vegetto.
That makes perfect sense since it's the same two people fusing with the same rival boost.
Vegito>>>Gogeta. Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6 Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.” Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?” Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”
Ugh, I never said regardless. Don't twist my words. And obviously the effect is greater if you're fused forever and have a boost because the fusion requires rivals. I believe both fusion have rival boots as Elder Kai said they are rivals and fused so they are stronger. He said they are fused without mentioning the potara he only said he is strong since he is fused and since they are rivals so they are stronger so same goes for Gogeta. Also, I can't get what is so better to be fused forever???
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He never mentioned rival boost until he realized that both of them are rivals. Pretty much rival boost is not what makes them strong. IIRC, he said to KibitoKai that the potara has nothing to do with it, it's them themselves.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3 Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!” Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”
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Jun 2 2012, 03:37 PM
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Wait, is he saying Gogeta can't go SSJ3? Or SSJ2? He can go SSJ2 not SSJ3.
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Yeah, exactly. Fusion Dance could have a rival boost since it was never stated that it didn't have one.
IMO, Fusion Dance with rival boost makes Gogeta ~ Vegetto.
That makes perfect sense since it's the same two people fusing with the same rival boost.
Vegito>>>Gogeta. Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6 Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.” Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?” Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”
Ugh, I never said regardless. Don't twist my words. And obviously the effect is greater if you're fused forever and have a boost because the fusion requires rivals.
I believe both fusion have rival boots as Elder Kai said they are rivals and fused so they are stronger. He said they are fused without mentioning the potara he only said he is strong since he is fused and since they are rivals so they are stronger so same goes for Gogeta. Also, I can't get what is so better to be fused forever??? They pay price to be strongest. No wonder its Potara > Fusion because it wouldnt make sence that Gogeta = Vegetto who neads to be forever in one body.
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