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Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu (SSJ3 Goku + Majin Vegeta + SSJ Gotenks + Piccolo)
Topic Started: Jun 1 2012, 05:42 PM (2,660 Views)
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pakl123456
Jun 1 2012, 08:47 PM
GridZero
Jun 1 2012, 08:35 PM
I don't have to make you ''look'' like an ''ignorant.'' You do that in every post when you say the most outlandish things.

Full Power Super Saiyan 3?

Where's the evidence that Goku was surpressed when fighting Fat Boo?

Oh, it doesn't exist.

Sorry.
Fun fact. I am the one who keeps providing facts in every post while you failed to do that in Dabura vs Gohan and the movies time line. Sorry but you are wrong again. Goku said he was holding back to give the kids something to do so he was holding back.

FP SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenks Pre>=SSJ3 Goku holding back.
Your facts are obviously facts when everyone on this board continues to discredit them and argue with you.

I'm done. This entire thread is a joke.
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This won't change a damn thing, but I'll say it anyway. You know why Goku said Gotenks was a "nasty gamble?" Because it was two kids who had never seen war - never been in a serious fight before - in their lives. They were completely inexperienced. The most serious fight they had was at the tournament; before that, they play-fought with each other and that was it. Suddenly they were the universe's only hope. Tell me that wouldn't be a nasty gamble.

How about this scenario... Your country starts a war with another country. The military has been utterly defeated and they turn to you to defeat the enemy country. The most combat training you've had is the 10-week basic training course. Would you consider yourself the best candidate for the job?

Same thing applies in the DBZ world.
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Jun 1 2012, 09:48 PM
This won't change a damn thing, but I'll say it anyway. You know why Goku said Gotenks was a "nasty gamble?" Because it was two kids who had never seen war - never been in a serious fight before - in their lives. They were completely inexperienced. The most serious fight they had was at the tournament; before that, they play-fought with each other and that was it. Suddenly they were the universe's only hope. Tell me that wouldn't be a nasty gamble.

How about this scenario... Your country starts a war with another country. The military has been utterly defeated and they turn to you to defeat the enemy country. The most combat training you've had is the 10-week basic training course. Would you consider yourself the best candidate for the job?

Same thing applies in the DBZ world.
Wrong!

Goku said they were a nasty gamble because blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Dp and gd


First off nothing really suggest that goku was holding back and nothing really suggests that he was full power

Yes gotenks and super boo and gohan could wipe the floor with goku noone is argueing that

What pakl and i believe is that post Htc gotenks ssj1= ssj3 goku

Cause when goku fought fat buu there was noo need to go all out and pumel him but just use portion of his power to delay him and that is what he did


Goku did say that someone st onger then him would fight buu but he clearly overestimated gotenks

As piccolo clearly stated
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Jun 1 2012, 10:42 PM
Dp and gd


First off nothing really suggest that goku was holding back and nothing really suggests that he was full power

Yes gotenks and super boo and gohan could wipe the floor with goku noone is argueing that

What pakl and i believe is that post Htc gotenks ssj1= ssj3 goku

Cause when goku fought fat buu there was noo need to go all out and pumel him but just use portion of his power to delay him and that is what he did


Goku did say that someone st onger then him would fight buu but he clearly overestimated gotenks

As piccolo clearly stated
Piccolo never overestimated Gotenks. He underestimated Boo.

Goku said he could beat Fat Boo but he never said he could do it easily. His fight with Fat Boo showed that he had an advantage, but it wasn't a complete stomp. He had to deflect Boo's Kamehameha with effort shown on his face, after all, and he didn't tank any of Boo's attacks. In order to say SSjin Gotenks (post) = SSjin 3 Goku, you'd have to believe that Goku was holding back a ton of power, which seems highly unlikely and improbable considering the entire essence of the form was out of his control.

tl;dr below.
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Jun 1 2012, 08:04 PM
SSJ3 Goku>Buutenks.
nope.

BTW, Goku's suppression is really how you interpret it
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P10.5-8
P11.1-3

Piccolo: “Goku…There’s something I want to ask you while I’ve got the chance…[ ] …That Super Saiyan 3 thing earlier…if you had gone all-out, wouldn’t you have been able to defeat Majin Boo?...How about it, am I wrong?”
Goku: “Nah, I don’t know…When it comes to Majin Boo’s strength, it’s like a lie…I think that I probably couldn’t have won…”
Piccolo: “…Probably? Knowing you, why didn’t you try until the very end?...Does it have to do with that energy…?”
Goku: “No…I’m no longer a human who’s particularly even supposed to be here…I shouldn’t be the one to do it. It’d be better for these young guys to solve things somehow or another…After all, some other outrageous guy might show up eventually, right? …It's a nasty gamble, but…Seeing those two super-gifted squirts, it made me want to take this gamble…”
Firstly, Piccolo never implies Goku is suppressing his full power. He only states that Goku didn't seem to be trying, or he didn't go all out in fighting. He even thinks that Goku's power was great enough to beat Fat Boo, it's just that Goku wasn't trying hard enough.

Not trying =/= Suppressing

Piccolo actually thought Goku's power was greater than Fat Boo's, so that's why I think Goku wasn't suppressing, he just wasn't trying like he was against Kid Boo.

Furthermore, even though Goku calls it a 'dangerous gamble', he outright states Gotenks is stronger than him, and he calls them two super-gifted squirts, that made him think they could win. And Pyrus already explained the dangerous gamble thing anyway.
Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Jun 1 2012, 11:35 PM.
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This is basicly what means suppressed :

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Fat boo didnt get any weaker from kamehameha.
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The hell are some of you guys smoking?! Gohan looses, and looses badly!
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Jun 2 2012, 12:15 AM
The hell are some of you guys smoking?! Gohan looses, and looses badly!
I said that in the very first post. Blame the OP and his contorted logic.
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I don't think Gohan loses actually.

Gohan: 31,500,000,000,000,000
Boo (+absorptions): 22,616,991,750,000,000

Piccolo: 1
SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta: 13
SSjin 3 Goku: 104
SSjin Gotenks (post): 6,032
Evil Boo: 156,832
Gohan: 225,838

That's still a 39% gap. I don't think Piccolo, Goku, and Vegeta's smarts would give Boo the win here, especially since Boo can't absorb or use the candy beam.
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I never said gokus was surpressed just not using all his powers / not going all out

Kp i already. Read that monstrous long eassyof quotes and arguements
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You don't think Vegeta, Goku, and Piccolo would mind ***** Gohan into submission? I know I do
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Thala na Gethu!

Gohan wins after some difficulity..
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Jun 1 2012, 08:48 PM
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Jun 1 2012, 08:47 PM
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Jun 1 2012, 08:35 PM
I don't have to make you ''look'' like an ''ignorant.'' You do that in every post when you say the most outlandish things.

Full Power Super Saiyan 3?

Where's the evidence that Goku was surpressed when fighting Fat Boo?

Oh, it doesn't exist.

Sorry.
Fun fact. I am the one who keeps providing facts in every post while you failed to do that in Dabura vs Gohan and the movies time line. Sorry but you are wrong again. Goku said he was holding back to give the kids something to do so he was holding back.

FP SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenks Pre>=SSJ3 Goku holding back.
Your facts are obviously facts when everyone on this board continues to discredit them and argue with you.

I'm done. This entire thread is a joke.
Oh, I am the one who showed fatcts when I proved Gohan was a SSJ vs Dabura and showed statements from the Manga while you showed me no fact from the Manga so now you are just denying the truth.
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Jun 1 2012, 09:48 PM
This won't change a damn thing, but I'll say it anyway. You know why Goku said Gotenks was a "nasty gamble?" Because it was two kids who had never seen war - never been in a serious fight before - in their lives. They were completely inexperienced. The most serious fight they had was at the tournament; before that, they play-fought with each other and that was it. Suddenly they were the universe's only hope. Tell me that wouldn't be a nasty gamble.

How about this scenario... Your country starts a war with another country. The military has been utterly defeated and they turn to you to defeat the enemy country. The most combat training you've had is the 10-week basic training course. Would you consider yourself the best candidate for the job?

Same thing applies in the DBZ world.
I know that was what the gamble meant but I only say that Base Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku makes no sense wel I can agree with that but still stupid.
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