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Buu Saga power progression. Is this about right?
Topic Started: Jun 1 2012, 03:34 PM (1,128 Views)
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Super Vegito > Buuhan > Vegito > Buutenks > Mystic Gohan > Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ Gotenks (pre rosat) > Kid Buu > Fat Buu > Base Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan (post z sword training) > Evil Buu > Good Buu > SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > Base Gotenks (pre rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan > Dabura
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Super Vegito > Buuhan > Vegito > Buutenks > Mystic Gohan > Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ Gotenks (pre rosat) > Kid Buu > Fat Buu > Base Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan (post z sword training) > Evil Buu > Good Buu > SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > Base Gotenks (pre rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan > Dabura


SSj Gotenks pre RoSaT should be stronger than SSj3 Goku, stated by Goku.
Base Gotenks post RoSaT should be stronger than SSj Gotenks pre heavily implied/borderline stated by Piccolo.

Not really an error per say but I think Gotenks is heavily implied to be above Super Buu by at least a bit. Although many people put them equal and I don't have a problem with that.
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Super Vegito > Buuhan > Vegito > Buutenks > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Buu > SSJ Gotenks (post rosat) > Base Gotenks ( post Rosat ) > SSJ Gotenks (pre rosat) > SSJ3 Goku >= Kid Buu > Fat Buu > Evil Buu >= SSJ2 Gohan (post z sword training) > Good Buu > SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > Base Gotenks (pre rosat) > Dabura > SSJ2 Teen Gohan
It's better like that. :)
Edited by Ryuuzaki, Jun 1 2012, 04:00 PM.
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Jun 1 2012, 03:37 PM
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Super Vegito > Buuhan > Vegito > Buutenks > Mystic Gohan > Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ Gotenks (pre rosat) > Kid Buu > Fat Buu > Base Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan (post z sword training) > Evil Buu > Good Buu > SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > Base Gotenks (pre rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan > Dabura


SSj Gotenks pre RoSaT should be stronger than SSj3 Goku, stated by Goku.
Base Gotenks post RoSaT should be stronger than SSj Gotenks pre heavily implied/borderline stated by Piccolo.

Not really an error per say but I think Gotenks is heavily implied to be above Super Buu by at least a bit. Although many people put them equal and I don't have a problem with that.
This is where I always come to disagreement. Base Gotenks post rosat being stronger than ssj gotenks pre.

People state that piccolo implied they are so powerful and that they might have a chance at beating buu.

Now it's obvious Piccolo was comparing gotenks to fat buu and not super buu (as is shown by his reaction soon after). Now when someone says "they might have a chance", that in no way (to me anyway) means that that character is stronger or even on par. It means that they're weaker but with some luck and skill they could pull off a victory.


SSj Gotenks pre RoSaT should be stronger than SSj3 Goku, stated by Goku.

I recall someone saying that Goku said that ssj gotenks would be equal with him?
Edited by oodle, Jun 1 2012, 03:43 PM.
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I have it like this for now :

Super Vegito > Buuhan > Buutenks > Vegito > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super buu > SSJ Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu > Base Gotenks (post rosat) > SSJ Gotenks (pre rosat) > Fat Buu > SSJ2 Gohan (post z sword training) > Evil Buu > Good Buu > SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > Base Gotenks (pre rosat) > SSJ2 Gohan > Dabura
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Shouldnt it be Dabura > SSJ2 Gohan (Pre-Sword)?
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Jun 1 2012, 03:46 PM
Shouldnt it be Dabura > SSJ2 Gohan (Pre-Sword)?
It's highly debatable whether or not Gohan was an SSJ2 for his fight with dabura.
So yeah, impossible to please everyone with putting gohan as stronger or dabura
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Its clearly SSJ2 Gohan > Dabura until Gohan starts loosing energy. Gohan took ki blast from Dabura, yet he doesnt have a scratch on face and he didnt give any energy to Buus shell.
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Its been a long time since I saw the fight, but doesnt Dabura call Gohan trash
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Yea he says that after fighthing with him. He clearly saw Gohan cant control his energy and also Gohans rusty fighthing sence.
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KingOfAllSaiyans
Jun 1 2012, 03:46 PM
Shouldnt it be Dabura > SSJ2 Gohan (Pre-Sword)?
You really have right here. :) I forgot. Dabura > Gohan SSJ2 Pre.
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Chapter: 460(DBZ 266), P2.2-3
Context: Kaioshin and Gohan prepare to fight Dabura and Babidi
Babidi: "Do you think you can deafeat that earthling, Dabura?"
Dabura:"Of course I can! we fought a bit earlier. I can take care of that trash"
Remember that Gohan showed his rusty skills to Dabura, so since Dabura bases his confidence on the fact they already fought, which may imply he thought about a magic type that could end the fight and gohan's life easily. we know dabura already managed to blow gohan away and somewhat damage him with one magic, and who knows how many he has.
so I dont think this statement means dabura > ssj/ssj2 gohan. Not a noticeable gap at the least.
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I just take that to mean Dabura is confident he can win since he fought earlier and knows Gohan's strategies. I don't think he had the power advantage, just the skills and techniques.
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Thala na Gethu!

Most chain progression seems right.

Kinda sad though, SSJ3 was such a fierce transformation durin its intro, yet overshadowed greatly by Fusions & what not. My opinions...
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