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Why is vegeta and others so weak; vegeta gets weaker as the show progresses
Topic Started: Jun 1 2012, 04:51 AM (10,331 Views)
Majin_Bebi_Vegeta
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So, i have watched the show since i was a kid, i am now 22 years old and just recently rewatched every episode and GT, and i had to rant about the character vegeta. easily one of the most popular characters on the show, and yet as the prince of all sayains he doesnt kill 1 single villian boss, except for android 19 and thats cause goku had a heart disease. The sayains are supposed to get STRONGER after each battle/near death. yet Vegeta gets his ***** whooped everytime and doesnt get stronger. Gohan becomes ssj2 during cell. Then he goes to highschool and becomes a whimp...The only way vegeta reaches SSj2 is from babidi, when he becomes majin vegeta.. and even at that time goku had already reached ssj3.. Then after Buu dies and dbz is over we start DBGT....................Where pretty much everyone except for goku is useless throughout the whole show, except when vegeta CHEATS to get ssj4... never reaching ssj3.... and throughout the WHOLE DBGT season for some reason vegeta does not go ssj2 once.... NOT ONCE!!!!!!!! wtf???... not to mention gohan, goten, trunks.... they all become school boys and are weak as ***** in GT.... its like everyone became a major P*ssy in DBGT except for goku. vegeta was just a DISGRACE in DBGT along with everyone who was not goku... i just think DBGT was horrible.. only reason i liked it was cause i was a hardcore DBZ fan.. even though i wish they woulda gave Vegeta more credit and actually let him kill someone.

sorry but i had to get that out, im sure there are others who will agree with me that vegeta got stiffed.... he never got stronger from getting his ***** kicked (which happened more then Goku, but goku still got stronger) They shoulda let vegeta kill buu.... they shoulda saved his sacrifice explosion for the end and have that be the way the show ends. vegeta swallowing his pride to put others lives including kakorats in front of his.
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Wow so many things wrong with this post. No offense.


1. Vegeta had the most kills of anyone on the show.
2. There are multiple times Vegeta is the strongest character. Saiyan saga, android saga and after the Rosat before Goku enters.
3. Vegeta did obtain SSJ2 before babidi, he got it through training during the 7 year gap.
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I think Vegeta was always right where he needed to be, right behind Goku. Vegeta is always number 2 sometimes number 3 Z fighter. Vegeta needs to be Goku's second otherwise he would have killed them before he was turned and actually cared for others lives. Also Goku is his motivation, to be better than him, but he is just more naturally talented and that is just Vegeta's place.
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Billa
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Thala na Gethu!

I certainly understand your new to the Forum & welcome to DBZF pal.

But pls make you post as a post in order for it to be readable..
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Vegeta's not really a "weak" character, he's just not as strong as Goku, mainly because Goku is the protagonist and the glory almost always ends up going to him in some way.

GT, well, it has its flaws. Many of them. With not many redeeming features. A major trope in GT was that Goku is the strongest and they needed him.

What annoys me, though, is Vegeta in most of the movies- for some reason, the movies seem to ignore his character development entirely, and do their best to portray him as a useless self-obsessed weakling.
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InterWebZ
Jun 1 2012, 08:17 AM
Vegeta's not really a "weak" character, he's just not as strong as Goku, mainly because Goku is the protagonist and the glory almost always ends up going to him in some way.

GT, well, it has its flaws. Many of them. With not many redeeming features. A major trope in GT was that Goku is the strongest and they needed him.

What annoys me, though, is Vegeta in most of the movies- for some reason, the movies seem to ignore his character development entirely, and do their best to portray him as a useless self-obsessed weakling.
Well, yeah.

While some Movies like Legendary Super Saiyan or Fusion Reborn has Vegeta's characterizations underdeveloped, Wrath of the Dragon simple undeveloped Vegeta's portion.
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Majin_Bebi_Vegeta
Jun 1 2012, 04:51 AM
and yet as the prince of all sayains he doesnt kill 1 single villian boss, except for android 19 and thats cause goku had a heart disease.
Umm, he does kill quite a few people

- Kiwi - blows him up
- Dodoria - blows him up
- Zarbon - rams his fist into his gut and blasts him to kingdom come
- Gurd/Guldo - decapitates him, blows him up for good measure
- Baata - breaks his neck
- Recoome - blows him up
- Jheese - breaks his ribs, blows him up
- Android 19 - Big Bang'd
- Pui Pui - Blows him up

aaaand, if you want to count the movies
- android 15 - decapitates him

He's got a decent track record when it comes to killing people graphically.
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Super Asian

Vegeta kill list:
Saibaman
Nappa
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
Recoome
Burta
jeice
19
Pui pui
Humans

Vegeta reached ssj2 threw training, he didnt cheat because ssj4 is actually a different ssj form

He goes ssj2 in gt along with gohan & even trunks & goten reach the ssj2 aura in gt
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Thala na Gethu!

Considerin most of Vegeta's feats or accomplishments are overshadowed by TOEI, all I say is he's easily most underated character in DBZ.
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Vegeta has more kills than anyone and is probably in the top 3 strongest Z fighters by the end of the series
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His strength at the end of Z is never hinted at, he could actually be stronger than Goku. But yeah even before the 10 year time skip he's stated by old Kai to be one of the 3 strongest warriors in the Universe (The other 2 being Gohan and Goku) so I don't really get how anyone feels Vegeta was mistreated or anything.
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FamousBueller
Jun 1 2012, 12:31 PM
Vegeta kill list:
Saibaman
Nappa
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
Recoome
Burta
jeice
19
Pui pui
Humans

Vegeta reached ssj2 threw training, he didnt cheat because ssj4 is actually a different ssj form

He goes ssj2 in gt along with gohan & even trunks & goten reach the ssj2 aura in gt
Well he did cheat with achiving SSJ4 with not natural way and messing with SSJ levels, but ofc Gt doest care about ssj levels.

Goten and Trunks go SSJ2 ? You have some proof ?
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Goten & Trunks wasn't SSJ2. Look the aura. Gohan and Vegeta have the same aura and Goten and Trunks SSJ aura.
SSJ Goten & Trunks
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SSJ2 Gohan & Vegeta
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