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Is Broly stronger than Cell?
Topic Started: May 31 2012, 07:31 PM (10,877 Views)
GridZero
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I don't think this argument matters much anymore.

Cell > Broly (Movie 8)

Broly > Cell (Movie 10)

It's all relative.
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pakl123456
May 31 2012, 09:21 PM
SaiyanGirl
May 31 2012, 09:15 PM
Also, your still the fanboy.
How am I a fanboy if I am providing facts. You lost the debate. I won by using your own source, wikipedia!!!!!!!!
You probably don't realize that you didn't post any fact, man. You're just posting your opinion.

"winning" a debate about DBZ? There's no such thing as winning if the opponent has still points.
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You tell me to stop using wiki?


'Gohan also uses this form to battle Broly when the latter reappears in Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming. Despite putting up a far better fight than he did previously, Gohan is outstripped by the Legendary Super Saiyan's massive power. However, this is partially because of Gohan's lack of training that made him noticeably weaker up to that point, and since Broly survived being impaled in the stomach by Goku's punch in Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly's power most likely increased substantially after recovering from near-death, as all beings with Saiyan genetics undergo when in the same predicament.'

Is from the wiki.



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LOL, he says to stop using Wiki?

Well then I'll use Daizenshuu!

Oh wait, he discredits that too.

Oh Well.

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GridZero
May 31 2012, 09:23 PM
I don't think this argument matters much anymore.

Cell > Broly (Movie 8)

Broly > Cell (Movie 10)

It's all relative.
At least it makes sense though. Yeah Movie 10 Broly surpassed SPC since SPC was the last villian but still only somewhat stronger than SPC. There is no proof he is much stronger, let alone even stronger.

SSJ2 Goku>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC>>>Full Power Perfect Cell=Base Hatchiyack>Movie 8 LSSJ Broly>Suppressed Perfect Cell.

Edited by pakl123456, May 31 2012, 09:28 PM.
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Puccio
May 31 2012, 09:23 PM
pakl123456
May 31 2012, 09:21 PM
SaiyanGirl
May 31 2012, 09:15 PM
Also, your still the fanboy.
How am I a fanboy if I am providing facts. You lost the debate. I won by using your own source, wikipedia!!!!!!!!
You probably don't realize that you didn't post any fact, man. You're just posting your opinion.

"winning" a debate about DBZ? There's no such thing as winning if the opponent has still points.
I have shown valid points though.
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May 31 2012, 09:23 PM
You tell me to stop using wiki?


'Gohan also uses this form to battle Broly when the latter reappears in Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming. Despite putting up a far better fight than he did previously, Gohan is outstripped by the Legendary Super Saiyan's massive power. However, this is partially because of Gohan's lack of training that made him noticeably weaker up to that point, and since Broly survived being impaled in the stomach by Goku's punch in Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly's power most likely increased substantially after recovering from near-death, as all beings with Saiyan genetics undergo when in the same predicament.'

Is from the wiki.



I have shown you that since I used yout own source to prove you it says Broly is at best SPC level. Read again
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pakl123456
May 31 2012, 09:21 PM
SaiyanGirl
May 31 2012, 09:15 PM
Also, your still the fanboy.
How am I a fanboy if I am providing facts. You lost the debate. I won by using your own source, wikipedia!!!!!!!!
Yes.
Providing facts.

You told me to stop using DBZ Wiki because it's fanfiction and fake.

Yet, you say your providing facts by using the same thing.

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I'm just a piece of trash.. but there are things I learned. The hole in your heart is something other people can fill.
If you reject your friends' feelings and this world..
Just because something didn't go as you wished, no one will ever come to you.
And so that hole won't be filled either, if you just run away without doing anything people won't do anything for you either..
As long as you don't give up, you can still be saved
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GridZero
May 31 2012, 09:24 PM
LOL, he says to stop using Wiki?

Well then I'll use Daizenshuu!

Oh wait, he discredits that too.

Oh Well.

Of course I do.




In Gohans Bio it states that Gohan didnt use SSJ 2 after Volume 37 (I believe its that one) which is the end of the bodokai, and hasnt yeat shown the fight with dabura.

Dabura's Bio states Gohan was SSJ 2.

Another is that it states Recoome killed Gohan... But thats kinda obviously NOT TRUE.
And that recoome's attack was meant to take out all three of them (Veggie , gohan , and Krillin) but was only aimed at Vegeta.

There are more, and Ill add them shortly, but I would like to confirm my research. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here we go This is all I feel Like searching through for now. But there are a handful of more.

*Daizenshuu 1 has a pic of 3rd form Freeza, but states it as 2nd Form.

*Daizenshuu 2 States SSJ Vegeta appeared in Volume 32 when it was actually 29
" States Kaioshin appeared in Volume 39 when it was 37.
" Misses some battles, that may not be considered battles, but includes things like Goku V Fish... Soooo
*Daizenshuu 4 states Buu used Goku's Instant Transmission, but it was actually Shin Konido which is Kaioshin's type of teleportation.

*Daizenshuu 7 Tenshinhan's profile lists one of his battles was against no.19, while it actually was against no.17
" 17 uses Kienzan
" Goten was born while Goku fought cell
" Goku's first KHH was used on Tenshinhan, but it was actually Jackie Chun he used it on
" Bra born in 780 in one part of the book, and then later stated to be born in 778.
" The timeline has other errors. Like Yamcha meet, and defeat, and so on.
" Its states Goku stayed dead longer than a year for the saiyans, but he was only dead for a little over 11.
Also dont forget that over the official PL lists from V-Jump, SEG and so on, there are some literaly factual errors, like Piccolo Diamao's 260, despite tenshinhan being 250 at the start of Z and the fact that Weighted Goku from Piccolo Jr being > Piccolo D and Tein being on par with that goku

How wouldn't i?
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SaiyanGirl
May 31 2012, 09:30 PM
pakl123456
May 31 2012, 09:21 PM
SaiyanGirl
May 31 2012, 09:15 PM
Also, your still the fanboy.
How am I a fanboy if I am providing facts. You lost the debate. I won by using your own source, wikipedia!!!!!!!!
Yes.
Providing facts.

You told me to stop using DBZ Wiki because it's fanfiction and fake.

Yet, you say your providing facts by using the same thing.

I can't tell if you are stupid or just trolling me. Listen, I used it to show you how horrible wiki is and to show you even wiki claims Broly is at best Cell's level. That's all. This is why I am telling it's fake since it's a fanmade. Everyone can write there.
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pakl123456
May 31 2012, 09:32 PM
GridZero
May 31 2012, 09:24 PM
LOL, he says to stop using Wiki?

Well then I'll use Daizenshuu!

Oh wait, he discredits that too.

Oh Well.

Of course I do.




In Gohans Bio it states that Gohan didnt use SSJ 2 after Volume 37 (I believe its that one) which is the end of the bodokai, and hasnt yeat shown the fight with dabura.

Dabura's Bio states Gohan was SSJ 2.

Another is that it states Recoome killed Gohan... But thats kinda obviously NOT TRUE.
And that recoome's attack was meant to take out all three of them (Veggie , gohan , and Krillin) but was only aimed at Vegeta.

There are more, and Ill add them shortly, but I would like to confirm my research. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here we go This is all I feel Like searching through for now. But there are a handful of more.

*Daizenshuu 1 has a pic of 3rd form Freeza, but states it as 2nd Form.

*Daizenshuu 2 States SSJ Vegeta appeared in Volume 32 when it was actually 29
" States Kaioshin appeared in Volume 39 when it was 37.
" Misses some battles, that may not be considered battles, but includes things like Goku V Fish... Soooo
*Daizenshuu 4 states Buu used Goku's Instant Transmission, but it was actually Shin Konido which is Kaioshin's type of teleportation.

*Daizenshuu 7 Tenshinhan's profile lists one of his battles was against no.19, while it actually was against no.17
" 17 uses Kienzan
" Goten was born while Goku fought cell
" Goku's first KHH was used on Tenshinhan, but it was actually Jackie Chun he used it on
" Bra born in 780 in one part of the book, and then later stated to be born in 778.
" The timeline has other errors. Like Yamcha meet, and defeat, and so on.
" Its states Goku stayed dead longer than a year for the saiyans, but he was only dead for a little over 11.
Also dont forget that over the official PL lists from V-Jump, SEG and so on, there are some literaly factual errors, like Piccolo Diamao's 260, despite tenshinhan being 250 at the start of Z and the fact that Weighted Goku from Piccolo Jr being > Piccolo D and Tein being on par with that goku

How wouldn't i?
That might be a translation error, and not Daizenshuu itself.

Unless you can read and translate perfect kanji to English (no one can), then stop assuming that Daizenshuu is wrong.
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GridZero
May 31 2012, 09:40 PM
pakl123456
May 31 2012, 09:32 PM
GridZero
May 31 2012, 09:24 PM
LOL, he says to stop using Wiki?

Well then I'll use Daizenshuu!

Oh wait, he discredits that too.

Oh Well.

Of course I do.




In Gohans Bio it states that Gohan didnt use SSJ 2 after Volume 37 (I believe its that one) which is the end of the bodokai, and hasnt yeat shown the fight with dabura.

Dabura's Bio states Gohan was SSJ 2.

Another is that it states Recoome killed Gohan... But thats kinda obviously NOT TRUE.
And that recoome's attack was meant to take out all three of them (Veggie , gohan , and Krillin) but was only aimed at Vegeta.

There are more, and Ill add them shortly, but I would like to confirm my research. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here we go This is all I feel Like searching through for now. But there are a handful of more.

*Daizenshuu 1 has a pic of 3rd form Freeza, but states it as 2nd Form.

*Daizenshuu 2 States SSJ Vegeta appeared in Volume 32 when it was actually 29
" States Kaioshin appeared in Volume 39 when it was 37.
" Misses some battles, that may not be considered battles, but includes things like Goku V Fish... Soooo
*Daizenshuu 4 states Buu used Goku's Instant Transmission, but it was actually Shin Konido which is Kaioshin's type of teleportation.

*Daizenshuu 7 Tenshinhan's profile lists one of his battles was against no.19, while it actually was against no.17
" 17 uses Kienzan
" Goten was born while Goku fought cell
" Goku's first KHH was used on Tenshinhan, but it was actually Jackie Chun he used it on
" Bra born in 780 in one part of the book, and then later stated to be born in 778.
" The timeline has other errors. Like Yamcha meet, and defeat, and so on.
" Its states Goku stayed dead longer than a year for the saiyans, but he was only dead for a little over 11.
Also dont forget that over the official PL lists from V-Jump, SEG and so on, there are some literaly factual errors, like Piccolo Diamao's 260, despite tenshinhan being 250 at the start of Z and the fact that Weighted Goku from Piccolo Jr being > Piccolo D and Tein being on par with that goku

How wouldn't i?
That might be a translation error, and not Daizenshuu itself.

Unless you can read and translate perfect kanji to English (no one can), then stop assuming that Daizenshuu is wrong.
Those are ERRORS since the Daiz is wrong. If it was a translation error so Herm would say that but it never did. Daiz is full of erros and everyone knows that.
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I hope this doesn't turn into another "Why Gohan was SSJ against Dabura".

Pickin up subtletopic's & extendin it isn't somethin new isn't it pal?
Edited by Billa, Jun 1 2012, 04:22 AM.
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Wow. Of all those "errors," only a few of them are actually errors and not typos made by Herms. Go ask him yourself. It's kind of funny that a lot of those errors are so widespread among the community but they're not in the books themselves. Lol. Also, if we're discounting them based on a few errors, let's discount all the books in history since there is not one single book that doesn't have an error in it. Humans aren't infallible.
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Jun 1 2012, 04:27 AM
Wow. Of all those "errors," only a few of them are actually errors and not typos made by Herms. Go ask him yourself. It's kind of funny that a lot of those errors are so widespread among the community but they're not in the books themselves. Lol. Also, if we're discounting them based on a few errors, let's discount all the books in history since there is not one single book that doesn't have an error in it. Humans aren't infallible.
But it's full of errors. Not only some errors. It's so full of errors that it sometimes contradicts itself!
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