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Is Broly stronger than Cell?
Topic Started: May 31 2012, 07:31 PM (10,879 Views)
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GridZero
May 31 2012, 07:54 PM
No, Vegeta and Trunks were post RoSaT.

Otherwise, his hair makes no sense.

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LOL. I like when I have to explain how a movie works over and over again. Trunks had long hair when he was out of the chamber for the first time as well. He even had the same outfit he did when he ws out of the chamber for the first time. Trunks was shown with long hair for the second time in eopisode 173 and movie 8 was released between episodes 176 to 177. Are you saying it took Toei 3 episodes to work on a movie?? Heck, it takes them longer. Also, Trunks had short hair in the OVA and the OVA was after movie 8. He had long hair since he also did when he fought Perfect Cell. Toei started to work on the movie when Gohan and Goku were stll in the Rosat and when Cell went Perfect. This is why Gohan had his Androids Saga outfit. Toei had no other outfit to give him since they started to work on the movie when they were still in the Rosat.
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Trunks is Post RoSaT. Stop arguing against facts.
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May 31 2012, 07:55 PM
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May 31 2012, 07:51 PM
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May 31 2012, 07:47 PM
Movie 10 Broly shouldn't even be debated. He's obviously stronger than Cell.

I have no understanding of this "semi-MSSjin" theory. I believe they were post-RoSaT MSSjin.
Wrong! They were weaker. How can they be if Toei started to work on movie 8 when Goku and Gohan were still in the Rosat?? Gohan had his Androids Saga outfit since Toei started to work on the movie when Goku and Gohan were still in the Rosat. Toei had no idea Gohan surpassed Goku and MSSJ Goku was releaved in the Anime after movie 8 was finished. The Z fighters were also stronger in every movie till movie 9.
Wrong! They were stronger. How can't they be if the movie was released after everybody had come out of the RoSaT? Gohan had his Androids Saga outfit and Piccolo's cape because Toei had to have some clue as to what Toriyama was doing. Toei had no idea Gohan surpassed Goku and MSSjin Goku was relieved in the anime after Movie 8 was finished. The Z fighters were also stronger in every movie till Movie 9.
It doesn't matter if it was released. The fact that Toei started to work on movie 8 when Gohan and Goku were in the Rosat still proves they were weaker. This is like saying Gotenks can be SSJ3 in movie 12 sincve he already mastered it but it doesnt matter since that form was not releaved in the Anime this is why he was not in movie 12. Goku's MSSJ was not releaved in the Anime so he can't be in the movie, besides Toei probably work on the middle of the fight when they trasnformed before Goku and Gohan were out of the Rosat and defenetly before they made the episode when Vegeta and Trunks were in the Rosat for a second time.

This is bull. AT never made Gohan the strongest by the time Toei worked on movie 8. You are just making things up.
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May 31 2012, 08:01 PM
Trunks is Post RoSaT. Stop arguing against facts.
Whay fact? Toei started to work on the movie when Goku and Gohan were still in the Rosat. I showed facts and you never did. Trunks had short hair in the OVA so he is not and Toei never releaved Cell Games levels in the Anime when they worked on movie 8 therefore the Z fighters are weaker. How can they be Post Rosat if Toei never even released Cell Games levels in the Anime. Toei works on the episodes of the Anime and copy it for the movie. No one was Cell Games levels when they worked on the epsidoes for movie 8

Movie 6=Androids Sag
Movie 7=Imperfect Cell Saga
Movie 8=Perfect Cell Saga
Movie 9=Cell Games Saga

Movie 9 is the reference of the Cell Games levels, this is why Movie 9 is Cell Games levels since Toei worked on the Cell Games for movie 9 but never had Cell Games levels for movie 8. Movie 8 is Perfect Cel Saga when Toei even worked on the movie when Goku and Gohan were in the Rosat. Trunks never was in the Rosat for the second time and Vegeta as well. Gohan had hi Androids Saga and was weaker than Goku.
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You keep saying this like you know for a fact that Toei didn't know what Toriyama was already going to do in the manga.

Here's a clue, genius. They have to know what Toriyama's going to do, to animate everything. They can't wait until the manga is out, because then they're off schedule and can't create filler.

The fact that there's filler in the anime during the 10 days for the Cell Games proves my point.
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Oh yeah, then you will tell me why Dende's Kami in movie 6 when he was chosen by Goku after the Rosat.
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If my calculations are correct,M8 LSSJ Broly=Full Power Perfect Cell
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May 31 2012, 08:10 PM
You keep saying this like you know for a fact that Toei didn't know what Toriyama was already going to do in the manga.

Here's a clue, genius. They have to know what Toriyama's going to do, to animate everything. They can't wait until the manga is out, because then they're off schedule and can't create filler.

The fact that there's filler in the anime during the 10 days for the Cell Games proves my point.
Are you trying to say movie 8 took place during the ten days?? That's proof you don't know about movies. Toei started to work on the movie when Cell went perfect and before Cell even announced the Cell Games. If Toei started to work on the movie during the 10 days so They would be in SSJ state but they never were since they simply didn't even make it in the Anime. Also, AT infroms Toei but AT never even make Cell Games Gohan by the time Toei worked on movie 8. Toei also follows Anime when they make the movies, movies are based on Anime. This is why the fillers frm the Anime are added to the movies. You are ignoring everything I say. Toei had no idea about Cell Games levels and even if they did, they still made movie 9 as the reference of the Cell Games. Toei won't make two movies when they have the same power and movie 8 can't be reference for the Cell Games since Cell Games levels were not even releaved in the Anime. Movie 8 is the reference of the Perfect Cell Saga, episodes 160-175. This is why all the scenes in the movie are based on Vegeta's and Trunks's fight vs Cell.
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May 31 2012, 07:35 PM
Do you hate Broly? Just a question.

And a kamehameha blew Cell's upper torso into oblivion while it didn't do anything to Broly. I think this speaks volumes.
No it didnt, and cell was suppressed while he fought Goku, by almost half/ or arguably more.

Gokus peak strength only matches to about 90% of cells true power.

which is the same as brolys, 1.5x the strength of USSj goku.

cells ability to regerate was the whole reason that scene was even created. To prove he was like piccolo too.
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May 31 2012, 08:12 PM
If my calculations are correct,M8 LSSJ Broly=Full Power Perfect Cell
No he is weaker. I believe Goku gained FP Perfect Cell's power when he beat Broly and was above Broly. Base Hatchiyack who is above movie 8 Broly is obviously Perfect Cell's rival

FP Perfect Cell=Base Hatchiyack>movie 8 Broly>Suppressed Perfect Cell
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May 31 2012, 08:10 PM
You keep saying this like you know for a fact that Toei didn't know what Toriyama was already going to do in the manga.

Here's a clue, genius. They have to know what Toriyama's going to do, to animate everything. They can't wait until the manga is out, because then they're off schedule and can't create filler.

The fact that there's filler in the anime during the 10 days for the Cell Games proves my point.
Good, at least can we agree FP perfect Cell=Base Hatchiyack>movie 8 Broly>Suppressed Perfect Cell? Even though there evidences to prove movie 8 Broly is in par with MSSJ Goku.

Base Hatchiyack is obviously Perfect Cell's level. Also Toei won't make such a strong character before even making Cell's true power. They didn't even releave MSSJ Goku in the Aime.
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IMO M8 Broly<Perfect Cell<<<SPC<= M10 Broly<=ssj2 Goku
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May 31 2012, 08:27 PM
IMO M8 Broly<Perfect Cell<<<SPC<= M10 Broly<=ssj2 Goku
I am 100% agree. But SSJ2 Goku>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC.
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In strength, i'd say Broly.
In speed, Cell.

But, Cell fights more tactical then Broly, and with faster speed can quickly out maneuver him, and to get rid of Cell, you need to get rid of the nucleus in his head, otherwise he'd just keep regenerating twice as stronger.

As much as i hate to admit it, i'd have to give this one Cell unless Broly does a Omega Blaster strong enough to totally obliterate Cell.
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May 31 2012, 08:44 PM
In strength, i'd say Broly.
In speed, Cell.

But, Cell fights more tactical then Broly, and with faster speed can quickly out maneuver him, and to get rid of Cell, you need to get rid of the nucleus in his head, otherwise he'd just keep regenerating twice as stronger.

As much as i hate to admit it, i'd have to give this one Cell.
No proof Broly's power is above Cell's as Cell can do everything Broly did.
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