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SSJ Vegeta ( Cell Games ) vs Piccolo ( Buu saga )
Topic Started: May 31 2012, 02:14 PM (2,407 Views)
Ryuuzaki
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Who win ?
I guess it's a interesting fight.
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Billa
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Thala na Gethu!

In my honest perspectives, Piccolo isn't a weakling to lose this fight..
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Ryuuzaki
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Ok then :

Piccolo ( Buu saga ) vs ...

1. SSJ Vegeta ( Cell Games )
2. Hypotentical ASSJ Vegeta ( Cell Games )
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SSJ Vegeta in the cell games should be about as strong as androids 17 and 18 or slightly weaker imo,
with that said Piccolo should definitely be above the androids, around semi perfect cells power in the buu saga.

7 years enough to close that gap.

Piccolo stomps hard... Vegeta wont even know what hit him.
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Actualy Vegeta is probably FPSSJ in Boo saga. Doesnt make sence to use SSJ and not ASSJ form.

Dont know about Piccolos strenght, but in Boo saga i still have him weaker than Super Saiyans.
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What ? SSJ Vegeta Cell Games slighty weaker than androids ?
SSJ Vegeta Cell Games >(>) MSSJ Goku 50% > Piccolo Cell Games >> Super Vegeta >> Semi Perfect Cell >>> Android 16 >> Androids 17 & 18.
And Vegeta descovered MSSJ but he is weaker.
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Thala na Gethu!

Its impractical for Piccolo to surpass Untrained SSJ's in Cell Saga, on par with Trained SSJ's in Cell Games, & later bein a weaklin in Boo Saga...
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Wait i thought you were talking about just plain old regular SSJ not ASSJ or MSSJ.
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xpert123
May 31 2012, 04:08 PM
Wait i thought you were talking about just plain old regular SSJ not ASSJ or MSSJ.
MSSJ and SSJ it's the same thing in Cell Games and buu saga.
Edited by Ryuuzaki, May 31 2012, 04:09 PM.
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Vegeta SSJ2
May 31 2012, 03:49 PM
What ? SSJ Vegeta Cell Games slighty weaker than androids ?
SSJ Vegeta Cell Games >(>) MSSJ Goku 50% > Piccolo Cell Games >> Super Vegeta >> Semi Perfect Cell >>> Android 16 >> Androids 17 & 18.
And Vegeta descovered MSSJ but he is weaker.
Vegeta didnt even bcome a known MSSJ until the 7 year gap, he was not an mSSJ at the cell games.

He was an ASSj.

Then made ASSj his base power, the second trip.

Then flipped out because goku had conquered the USSJ forms power and condensed all the super saiyan grades into MSSJ.

with no strain.

makin it possible for his kame blast to fire at his peak power, the true reason why goku almost killed Cell, and then gave him a senzu to fight gohan.

Gokus peak power, was about 80-85% of Cells true power. Maybe even 90% matching gohans own MSSJ power VS FPCell.

But yeah, vegeta never DISCOVERED MSSJ, that was Gokus idea. Period.
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May 31 2012, 04:09 PM
xpert123
May 31 2012, 04:08 PM
Wait i thought you were talking about just plain old regular SSJ not ASSJ or MSSJ.
MSSJ and SSJ it's the same thing in Cell Games and buu saga.
oh i guess that sounds right,
im just stooopid :P
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In manga Vegeta is clearly SSJ ( MSSJ probably but more weaker ) at Cell Games.
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What the hell is a MSSJ and was there any indication that Piccolo trained after the Cell Games?
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Tarmus Cannon
May 31 2012, 05:55 PM
What the hell is a MSSJ and was there any indication that Piccolo trained after the Cell Games?
Super saiyan formed Goku came up with in the HTC that doesn't use a lot of energy. More of a relaxed super saiyan.
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MSSj is called Master super saiyan by toriyama himself.

Its a combined effort of ALL the saiyan power and grade forms, and putting it all into ONE form without having to bulk up and lose speed.

It takes the SSJ form and gives it NO strain as the super saiyan form, makes the user aggressive, and puts a huge strain on the body.

Which might be where gokus heart ailment really came from. He wasnt strong enough to get as strong as he did in so short a time. It took a toll on him.

No strain, no over aggressiveness, and thinking with a clear head is what makes MSSJ so important. he created it so he could hit cell with as MUCH as he could without running out of power so quickly.

Thats the reason why he condensed his USSj forms power into battle power for a better multiplier of his kame blast.

In the anime filler USSJ goku was about as strong as full power cell, and he said so. But he was as big as broly almost, and had no speed. Same as trunks. But trunks at his USSJ was only stronger than Suppressed Cell, and not full power cell VS MSSJ gohan.
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