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Super Bojack Vs SSj2 Goku Vs Majin Vegeta Vs LSSJ Broly Vs SSj2 Kid Gohan Vs Super Perfect Cell
Topic Started: May 26 2012, 01:06 PM (6,581 Views)
Paikuan extreme May 28 2012, 09:40 PM Post #106
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 yeah, he was wiped out, another reason why people believe he didnt train and could be the same gohan from the main timeline.

i just think it was how it was, it took everything gohan had, but...he lived, and almost died due to a dumb mistake if not for kuririn. I mean cmon, who rests in a lava pit? LOl
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Kblo247 May 29 2012, 03:48 AM Post #107
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Ninjajp247
May 28 2012, 09:33 PM
Dale Horvath
May 28 2012, 09:07 PM
Mr. Satan hit Cell over 10 times, that means that he put up a good fight! ;)
That wouldnt be funny, except for the fact that cell knocked satan away and into a mountian with just a snap of his arm.

Broly didnt do that. The comparison is funny, but it doesnt match up.

hell, vegeta VS 18 was worse than gohan vs broly.

Now THOSE were some tanked shots.

did vegeta put up a good fight? alot of people think he did, but in the end it didnt matter. 18 owned him till he ran.

Gohan didnt get scared of brolys power. vegeta ran from 18.

Gohan fought back and did damage, and gave himself credit to his ability. Vegeta did not.

so lets see a good comparison would be, Goku Vs Nappa.

without the kaioken, goku was over powered by nappa, and he knew it.

anime kid goku VS tao pai pai, that was a worse beat down than gohan vs broly.
When did Vegeta run? The only time he attempted to fly away from 18 was when he saw 17 choking Tien out, and he tried to make the save. Piccolo ended up going for it



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Vegeta never ran from 18, and he did get in better shots than Gohan did vs Broly. Vegeta just got worn out because SSJ was draining at the time and 18 never got tired or lost energy. Even Trunks admits that Vegeta gave 18 a better fight than he could expect or had seen anyone including himself and Gohan do, despite that 18 being stronger or using more power
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Billa May 29 2012, 03:52 AM Post #108
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Thala na Gethu!
pakl123456
May 28 2012, 04:51 PM
GridZero
May 28 2012, 04:32 PM
Just because it wasn't revealed in the manga doesn't mean that Toei didn't know about it.

How do you think Toei animated DBZ so quickly? Why do you think there's so much filler?
So Toei also knew about Buu Saga levels right? I guess the Z fighters are that level now. Toei never knew since Toriyama simply didn't decide how to end the Cell Games. AT is quick in his work , he even changed Goku as the hero in the Buu Saga in the middle of the Saga. Also this is what the producer said:

Supposedly dead, Broli continued to be revived in two movies, "The Dangerous Duo!!~" and "Super-Warrior Defeat!!~". Broli is the first enemy to appear three times in the movies. We asked the producer Mori*****a Kouzou the reason for this... "Broli was just that strong, so at the end of "Burn Up!!~", I figured he wasn't dead. At any rate, it's because he was set up as the strongest Saiyan." If you think about Goku and Vegeta's life force, I guess you can also grasp the tenaciousness of the Legendary Super Saiyan Broli?

Now, how does it prove Broly>SSJ2?? Broly was the strongest at his time like any movie villian. It's obvious what the producer said. He said he made a new movie since he wanted Broly to be stronger in movie 10 than the last villians who appeared in the Anime. Hence thew new villians surpass the last ones like Hatchiyack and Movie 8 Broly. Movie 10 Broly surpassed SPC and that's all. Gohan didn't get taht owned by Broly. A total stomp IMO is like SSJ2 Gohan when he beat Perfect Cell. Broly was shown angry when he grabbed Gohan and had to be serious.

Base Hatchiyack is also above Movie 8 Broly. You do realize Hatchiyack is probably Perfect Cell'a level right???

I agree 100% completly with this guy...
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Paikuan extreme May 29 2012, 04:10 AM Post #109
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 sorry kblo, i dont agree, and the beatdown for vegeta was way worse, especially since what vegeta did had NO effect and 18 basically one shot him to the floor, breaking his arm and making him scream like a punk.

Gohan would tear 18 apart from what he did to broly.

Admit it or not, gohan put up a good fight, and you guys just want him to lose, so you make brolys size his judge. when its obvious that if broly stayed in SSJ, gohan would pound him worse than 18 did vegeta.

so no, i dont agree, vegeta ran/crawled away from 18. however you want to put it. But the fact is that vegeta had less effect on 18 than gohan did broly. Ill bet the gap in power is bigger too.
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Kblo247 May 29 2012, 04:39 AM Post #110
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 So vegeta can't get credit for doing what he had done many times before
- saving Gohan and Krillin from Guldo
- saving Dende, Gohan, and Krillin from first form Frieza
- saving Gohan from Final form Frieza
- saving Goku from 19
- saving Gohan from super perfect cell

He would never come out and say he cared or valued them, but he saw 17 choking the life out of Tien, said "damn you" and then took off to save him. Vegeta had a arm broken and didn't run. In fact he got a worse beating solely because 18 took Trunks and tossed him into him.

The only villain Vegeta ever ran from is Frieza.
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Billa May 29 2012, 05:32 AM Post #111
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Thala na Gethu!

 This topic seemed to have driven in another direction.
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Warrior-Elite May 29 2012, 07:13 AM Post #112
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Ninjajp247
May 28 2012, 09:33 PM
Dale Horvath
May 28 2012, 09:07 PM
Mr. Satan hit Cell over 10 times, that means that he put up a good fight! ;)
That wouldnt be funny, except for the fact that cell knocked satan away and into a mountian with just a snap of his arm.

Broly didnt do that. The comparison is funny, but it doesnt match up.

hell, vegeta VS 18 was worse than gohan vs broly.

Now THOSE were some tanked shots.

did vegeta put up a good fight? alot of people think he did, but in the end it didnt matter. 18 owned him till he ran.

Gohan didnt get scared of brolys power. vegeta ran from 18.

Gohan fought back and did damage, and gave himself credit to his ability. Vegeta did not.

so lets see a good comparison would be, Goku Vs Nappa.

without the kaioken, goku was over powered by nappa, and he knew it.

anime kid goku VS tao pai pai, that was a worse beat down than gohan vs broly.
If Gohan didnt fight broly, then who would at the time.
Come on its not like goten and trunks would put up much of a fight.
Im still wondering were vegeta despaired to, but anyways
when gohan first comes out of the lava he can barely move, if werent for krillen the lava would of gotten him.
Proving how much of a beatings he took.

there only option was the combined attack or the family kamehameha,
and it proved successful, because i firmly believe goku was there shotting a kamehameha as well, which also proves that the combined attack was not mostly gohan power, cos come on if he did power 80-90% of the attack were was all that power when he was taking the beatings, would of came in use dont you think.

i honestly think gohan himself wouldnt of killed broly himself.
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Billa May 29 2012, 08:31 AM Post #113
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Thala na Gethu!
xpert123
May 29 2012, 07:13 AM
Ninjajp247
May 28 2012, 09:33 PM
Dale Horvath
May 28 2012, 09:07 PM
Mr. Satan hit Cell over 10 times, that means that he put up a good fight! ;)
That wouldnt be funny, except for the fact that cell knocked satan away and into a mountian with just a snap of his arm.

Broly didnt do that. The comparison is funny, but it doesnt match up.

hell, vegeta VS 18 was worse than gohan vs broly.

Now THOSE were some tanked shots.

did vegeta put up a good fight? alot of people think he did, but in the end it didnt matter. 18 owned him till he ran.

Gohan didnt get scared of brolys power. vegeta ran from 18.

Gohan fought back and did damage, and gave himself credit to his ability. Vegeta did not.

so lets see a good comparison would be, Goku Vs Nappa.

without the kaioken, goku was over powered by nappa, and he knew it.

anime kid goku VS tao pai pai, that was a worse beat down than gohan vs broly.
If Gohan didnt fight broly, then who would at the time.
Come on its not like goten and trunks would put up much of a fight.
Im still wondering were vegeta despaired to, but anyways
when gohan first comes out of the lava he can barely move, if werent for krillen the lava would of gotten him.
Proving how much of a beatings he took.

there only option was the combined attack or the family kamehameha,
and it proved successful, because i firmly believe goku was there shotting a kamehameha as well, which also proves that the combined attack was not mostly gohan power, cos come on if he did power 80-90% of the attack were was all that power when he was taking the beatings, would of came in use dont you think.

i honestly think gohan himself wouldnt of killed broly himself.
Yes. Gohan himself couldn't have done the job...'
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pakl123456 May 29 2012, 09:15 AM Post #114
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May 28 2012, 09:07 PM
Mr. Satan hit Cell over 10 times, that means that he put up a good fight! ;)
The diffrence is that Cell was not hrut and was not shown angry unlike Broly :D
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GridZero May 29 2012, 01:10 PM Post #115
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I seriously doubt Vegeta cared about saving Tien. Lol.
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* Stark May 29 2012, 03:46 PM Post #116
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Paikuan extreme May 29 2012, 03:53 PM Post #117
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xpert123
May 29 2012, 07:13 AM
Ninjajp247
May 28 2012, 09:33 PM
Dale Horvath
May 28 2012, 09:07 PM
Mr. Satan hit Cell over 10 times, that means that he put up a good fight! ;)
That wouldnt be funny, except for the fact that cell knocked satan away and into a mountian with just a snap of his arm.

Broly didnt do that. The comparison is funny, but it doesnt match up.

hell, vegeta VS 18 was worse than gohan vs broly.

Now THOSE were some tanked shots.

did vegeta put up a good fight? alot of people think he did, but in the end it didnt matter. 18 owned him till he ran.

Gohan didnt get scared of brolys power. vegeta ran from 18.

Gohan fought back and did damage, and gave himself credit to his ability. Vegeta did not.

so lets see a good comparison would be, Goku Vs Nappa.

without the kaioken, goku was over powered by nappa, and he knew it.

anime kid goku VS tao pai pai, that was a worse beat down than gohan vs broly.
If Gohan didnt fight broly, then who would at the time.
Come on its not like goten and trunks would put up much of a fight.
Im still wondering were vegeta despaired to, but anyways
when gohan first comes out of the lava he can barely move, if werent for krillen the lava would of gotten him.
Proving how much of a beatings he took.

there only option was the combined attack or the family kamehameha,
and it proved successful, because i firmly believe goku was there shotting a kamehameha as well, which also proves that the combined attack was not mostly gohan power, cos come on if he did power 80-90% of the attack were was all that power when he was taking the beatings, would of came in use dont you think.

i honestly think gohan himself wouldnt of killed broly himself.
no i dont think that at all, and gohan didnt take a huge beatdown from broly, before he powered down, at the most he suffered from being pushed through some rock. Satan has survived worse.

Gohan passed out thinking broly was dead. No sense in pretending he wasnt tired from fighting him, but the real beatdown didnt start until after broly came back and gohan was too tired to transform.

what kind of power could goten have put in? at his strongest he is MSSj gohan cell games.

No this movie was about broly vs gohan, in limited capacity.

vegeta didnt save gohan from SPC goku did. His distraction blast didnt hurt him anymore than the other z fighters ALREADY shooting at Cell during the knockdown with gohan.

So then you might as well say EVERYONE beat cell, despite the fact it was GOHAN that killed him.

Just like it was gohans power that killed broly, broke his ki shield and pushed him through the sun.

Im just being real here. trunks and goten did nothing.

vegeta never saved anyone that wasnt a part of the team, he didnt like tien at all, but he isnt going to let his compatriot die if he can be useful.

You seem to forget that he killed Nappa for getting disabled by goku. A guy he has traveled with and conquered planets with his whole life, as a member of the elite squad.

So vegeta didnt save anyone being a hero, if at all.

The family kame blast didnt exist, even in the video games there is no family kame blast only the father and son and the brothers kame blast. So no, even toei knows goku didnt help kill broly.

so there is nothing wrong with saying gohan put in most of the energy for the blast broly hopped around and couldnt deflect.

Overall gohan did what he could, and pointing out his faults doesnt change the fact he killed broly.

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Billa May 29 2012, 03:58 PM Post #118
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Thala na Gethu!

 Boy, Cell's case was different. EVERYONE tried & EVERYONE was blasted away like trash. In the end, it was Cell vs Gohan, One-on-One Beam STruggle.

Broly's case was different. Despite how irrelevant Goten was, he still contributed durin the struggle.

Your ignorance amazes me...
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pakl123456 May 29 2012, 04:06 PM Post #119
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May 29 2012, 03:58 PM
Boy, Cell's case was different. EVERYONE tried & EVERYONE was blasted away like trash. In the end, it was Cell vs Gohan, One-on-One Beam STruggle.

Broly's case was different. Despite how irrelevant Goten was, he still contributed durin the struggle.

Your ignorance amazes me...
Actually Broly's death is based on Cell's. Goku's present should be the same.
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Billa May 29 2012, 04:10 PM Post #120
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Thala na Gethu!
pakl123456
May 29 2012, 04:06 PM
Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 29 2012, 03:58 PM
Boy, Cell's case was different. EVERYONE tried & EVERYONE was blasted away like trash. In the end, it was Cell vs Gohan, One-on-One Beam STruggle.

Broly's case was different. Despite how irrelevant Goten was, he still contributed durin the struggle.

Your ignorance amazes me...
Actually Broly's death is based on Cell's. Goku's present should be the same.
Death was same. Process was different.

What I told Ninjajp247 was the the killin of Cell & Broly.

Gohan killed Cell, Goku, Gohan & Goten killed Broly.
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