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Super Bojack Vs SSj2 Goku Vs Majin Vegeta Vs LSSJ Broly Vs SSj2 Kid Gohan Vs Super Perfect Cell
Topic Started: May 26 2012, 01:06 PM (6,584 Views)
Billa May 28 2012, 02:33 AM Post #61
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Thala na Gethu!

 I dunno if your bein sarcastic or not, but its a tradition of villian bein owned by the protagonists be it by sheer luck or strength.

Your point seem to emphasize on groupin together to take on the villains. If thats the case, every villkian's gonna get their roody-poo candy a** bein whipped, with the hero's standing alive. Is that it?
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TrunksinSwimmingTrunks May 28 2012, 02:45 AM Post #62
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Formerly known as daman

 No I'm not being sarcastic. I actually think Broly would be the most likely to win if this fight happened.
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Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs May 28 2012, 02:52 AM Post #63
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wolffanghameha
May 28 2012, 02:45 AM
No I'm not being sarcastic. I actually think Broly would be the most likely to win if this fight happened.
Yeah, I have Broly as the only villain here definitely and undeniably above any canon, non-EOZ SSJ2.
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GridZero May 28 2012, 03:49 AM Post #64
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That wasn't a joke.

Broly (Movie 8) ~ Majin Vegeta

The producer said that Broly was stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, and Majin Vegeta is only on his level, as stated by Piccolo. I'm being generous to say that they're equals.
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pakl123456 May 28 2012, 08:03 AM Post #65
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Master of Dragon Ball
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
Yeah, that was a quote about Movie 8, not Movie 10.
How is Movie 8 Broly>SPC if SSJ2 never existed at that time??? He said he was strong in movie 8 so he decided to make him two movies and wanted him to be the strongest saiyan he set him up to be the strongest in movi 10 not movie 8.

Base Hatchiyack>movie 8 broly. Are you saying movie 8 broly is much stronger than SSJ2 Gohan?? Hatchiyack had two transformations as well. Base Hatchiyack>Movie 8 LSSJ Broly and Base Hatchiyack is obviously Perfect Celll's level.

GridZero
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
He said that about Broly in Movie 8, lol. Broly is supposed to be stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, and probably SPC too.

He said that at the time of movie 8 when SSJ2 never existed at that time and thew new villians are always stated as the strongest at their time. SSJ2 never existed in movie 8 and Toei didn't even releave MSSJ Goku in the Anime so this point is absourd. He set him up as the stongest in movie 10. Also SSJ3 never existed at that time and it doesnt mater if Toei is more advanced as Toei never releaved SSJ3 and Goku told Janemba the only one who pushed him to SSJ3 were Janemba and Fat Buu. SSJ2 Goku>LSSJ Broly. Super Bojack is defenetly above Perfect Cell IMO. He was able to hold his own after Gohan punched him and was able to use his powerful attack. Goten never wished his dad. That's english dub error. Goten said in the Japanese dub "Shenron, help us please". He wrecked him?? Gohan was able to inflict him some damage when Broly grabbed Gohan he was shown angry and serious, then Gohan broke his hold with pure muscles strength and kicked him again. I doubt SSJ2 A dult Gohan can even scratch SSJ2 Goku.

Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
Sinceit's stated as SSJ2 caliber, I assume LSSJ Broly frm M10. He takes all of
them easily.
Of course movie 10 since movie 8 Broly is very high end SSJ tier. Also, I amnot sure how Broly takes it easy if SSJ2 Goku beat him in hell.

Darth Pyrus
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
LSSjin Broly (M10) > SSjin 2 Goku/Majin Vegeta > SSjin 2 Kid Gohan ~ SPC >>> Perfect Cell > Bojack That's my opinion. I can't see Bojack being SSj2-tier at all. He got owned by SSjin 2 Kid Gohan, who didn't seem to be trying at all like he was against SPC. MSSjin Kid Gohan also didn't seem too far from Bojack's full power either IMHO.
SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in hell. Also Bojack was toying with Gohan ans Super Bojack is defenetly above Perfect Cell IMO. He was able to hold his own after Gohan punched him and was able to use his powerful attack. Gohan was not haxed. He said he had powered up from movie 8 since movie 8 Gohan was weaker than Goku and the Z fighters were overall weaker. SSJ Goku was also obviously stronger than SSJ Gohan in the beam struggle so no. Besides Movies=Anime. Goku is the strongest in the Anime so he is the strongest in the movies. Gohan is not stronger in the Anime so he is not stronger in the movies.

xpert123
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
Lssj Broly (Movie 10)>>Majin vegeta >= SSj2 Goku ~ (Movie 10) SSJ2 gohan > Super Perfect cell ~ SSJ2 kid Gohan>>Super Bojack
Thats how i see it of course in my opinion,
i would place movie 10 gohan as strong as ssj 2 goku from buu saga. And Majin vegeta being slightly stronger then them both.

Movie 10 Gohan is as strong as the Gohan form the World Tourment and SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in Hell.

Smokeout Slawth
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
Lssj Broly>=ssj2 Goku= Majin Vegeta>=SPC>=ssj2 kid Gohan>>>BojackFP IMO M10 Broly could be around Goku's ssj2 level since im sure goku could stomp ssj2 rusty Gohan just as bad if not worse and SPC could as well without a doubt. I personally think SPC is stronger than ssj2 kid gohan since he was just torturing him and was caught off guard and Vegeta's distraction is the only reason Cell died. Bojack is way out of his league here, we already seen what gohan did to him. Everyone here would kill him just as easy if not easier.
SSJ2 Gou beat Broly in Hell.
SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC=SSJ2 KId Gohan>>SSJ2 Adult Gohan. Right Gohan was weaker and he never traind. I gohan trained why did he need rage to go SSJ2? Why was he unable to go SSJ2 when he fired the kamehameha? he was injuried but Goku was also injuried vs Kid Buu and was able to go SSJ2 and SSJ3 because he is strong and trained unlike Gihan who was rusty weaker and needed rage. Movies=Anime=/=Manga.

Kblo247
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
Gohan from Bojack movie, the cell games, and Broly verse are different.

The Cell Games one won the fightand took 7 years off.
The Bojack one was stronger than the Cell Games counterpart
The movie 8 one was weaker than Goku and Vegeta, and in 10 said he was stronger than then.
Movie 10 Gohan is way weaker than Movie 9 and Cell Games Gohan.

wolffanghameha
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
Yeh I just remembered movie 10 Gohan was stronger than Goten/Trunks so movie 10 Gohan is stronger than Goku or Vegeta so Broly would be ok unless the rest of them got really lucky and he played moth with the sun.
Movie 10 Gohan was stronger than Goten and Trunks? He started his figh in base just like he did against Dabura. That doesn't mean anything. Also Kaioshin can one shot Frieza while Base Vegeta was shown above Kaioshin since he easily beat Pui Pui who Kaioshin wanted to gang up on. SSJ Goten is barely Semi Perfect Cell's level so Base Gohan migh als be as strong or above SSJ Goten and Trunks in every universe.

GridZero
May 27 2012, 01:14 AM
That wasn't a joke.

Broly (Movie 8) ~ Majin Vegeta

The producer said that Broly was stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, and Majin Vegeta is only on his level, as stated by Piccolo. I'm being generous to say that they're equals.
The producer never said so. I dont know if you are ignorant or biased. He said Broly was the strongest at his time (movie 8) Not even MSSJ Goku existed at that time since he was not releaved in the Anime. Movie 8 Broly is weaker than Base Hatchiyack who rivals Perfect Cell. The producer said he set him up as the strongest in movie 10.
Edited by pakl123456, May 28 2012, 10:54 AM.
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Billa May 28 2012, 10:54 AM Post #66
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Thala na Gethu!

 Wow, you guys never cease to astound me. I mean seriously, we have some die-hard fanboys here...
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GridZero May 28 2012, 02:28 PM Post #67
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Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 28 2012, 10:54 AM
Wow, you guys never cease to astound me. I mean seriously, we have some die-hard fanboys here...
No kidding. This guy never admits he's wrong.

This movie apparently happens during the wait for the Cell Games, so SSJ2 Gohan is already established.

Daizenshuu Entry On Cell Games Wait
 
From the fact that Gohan becomes a Super Saiyan, it seems that this is an event from around the time of the final showdown with Cell. However, at the same time it's a mystery why Goku and the others are leisurely having a cherry blossom viewing when they should be stressed for the battle with Cell...


The producer said that Broly was set up as the Strongest Saiyan in Movie 8.

Someone find the Daizenshuu quote.






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Super Vegetto May 28 2012, 03:14 PM Post #68
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Broli, after becoming the legendary Super Saiyan.
His power as a member of the fighting Saiyan race reaches its limits.

Only found this about Brolys power. Dunno where is quote of Broly beeing the strongest saiyan in daizenshuu.
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GridZero May 28 2012, 03:15 PM Post #69
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Someone quoted it earlier for me....

...but I can't find the topic/thread in which it was. Lol. It's a quote from the producer that says Broly was set to be the strongest Saiyan.
Edited by GridZero, May 28 2012, 03:17 PM.
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pakl123456 May 28 2012, 04:26 PM Post #70
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GridZero
May 28 2012, 02:28 PM
Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 28 2012, 10:54 AM
Wow, you guys never cease to astound me. I mean seriously, we have some die-hard fanboys here...
No kidding. This guy never admits he's wrong.

This movie apparently happens during the wait for the Cell Games, so SSJ2 Gohan is already established.

Daizenshuu Entry On Cell Games Wait
 
From the fact that Gohan becomes a Super Saiyan, it seems that this is an event from around the time of the final showdown with Cell. However, at the same time it's a mystery why Goku and the others are leisurely having a cherry blossom viewing when they should be stressed for the battle with Cell...


The producer said that Broly was set up as the Strongest Saiyan in Movie 8.

Someone find the Daizenshuu quote.






I admit I am wrong when I am. The Daizenshuu doesn't know how to place a movie in a correct time line. It says movie 3 took place after Goku arrived on Namek which is false. It also says t's a mystery so the Daiz can't be counted. The fact that you say the movie took place during the wait for the Cell Games proves you don't know about the movies that much. Toei started to work on the movie when Gohan and Goku were still in the Rosat. This is why Gohan had his Androids Saga outfit and Trunks had long hair in movie 8 and short hair in the OVA. Anime didn't releave MSSJ Goku when they worked on movie 8 so how can they know about SSJ2? SSJ2 didn't exist at that time, it was not releaved in the Manga. The Z fighters are weaker in movie 8 since Toei started to work on the movie when Cell went Perfect and when Goku and Gohan were still in the Rosat. This is why the Z fighters are weaker in movie 8.
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GridZero May 28 2012, 04:32 PM Post #71
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Just because it wasn't revealed in the manga doesn't mean that Toei didn't know about it.

How do you think Toei animated DBZ so quickly? Why do you think there's so much filler?
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Paikuan extreme May 28 2012, 04:36 PM Post #72
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xpert123
May 27 2012, 09:40 PM
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May 27 2012, 09:12 PM
so then if you have majin vegeta stronger than gohan, who could hurt broly? then why is broly still eating vegeta with no issues? cause gohan killed broly, you remember that dont you?
uhhmm no.
Gohan wasn't the only one who killed broly, it was a combined attack. From everyone, you remember that dont you?
no i dont. goku was a ghost and goten didnt do anything.

This movie was about gohan and broly.

the combined attack from everyone isnt what happened.

Gohan fired and goten fired.

Then goku came down and pep talked em like he has been .

They didnt want to die, so they fired harder.

Goten didnt do anything, and neither did trunks.

Gohans power was what matters here, goten and trunks were almost killed.

if it wasnt for gohan he would have a dead girlfriend, brother and cousin. So no, i dont remember the supposed combined attack being worth much.
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GridZero May 28 2012, 04:41 PM Post #73
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IMO, Gohan was owned vs. Broly.

Broly was beaten in a beam struggle.
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Super Vegetto May 28 2012, 04:48 PM Post #74
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GridZero
May 28 2012, 03:15 PM
Someone quoted it earlier for me....

...but I can't find the topic/thread in which it was. Lol. It's a quote from the producer that says Broly was set to be the strongest Saiyan.
If you find the source of that quote, post it in here.
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pakl123456 May 28 2012, 04:51 PM Post #75
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GridZero
May 28 2012, 04:32 PM
Just because it wasn't revealed in the manga doesn't mean that Toei didn't know about it.

How do you think Toei animated DBZ so quickly? Why do you think there's so much filler?
So Toei also knew about Buu Saga levels right? I guess the Z fighters are that level now. Toei never knew since Toriyama simply didn't decide how to end the Cell Games. AT is quick in his work , he even changed Goku as the hero in the Buu Saga in the middle of the Saga. Also this is what the producer said:

Supposedly dead, Broli continued to be revived in two movies, "The Dangerous Duo!!~" and "Super-Warrior Defeat!!~". Broli is the first enemy to appear three times in the movies. We asked the producer Mori*****a Kouzou the reason for this... "Broli was just that strong, so at the end of "Burn Up!!~", I figured he wasn't dead. At any rate, it's because he was set up as the strongest Saiyan." If you think about Goku and Vegeta's life force, I guess you can also grasp the tenaciousness of the Legendary Super Saiyan Broli?

Now, how does it prove Broly>SSJ2?? Broly was the strongest at his time like any movie villian. It's obvious what the producer said. He said he made a new movie since he wanted Broly to be stronger in movie 10 than the last villians who appeared in the Anime. Hence thew new villians surpass the last ones like Hatchiyack and Movie 8 Broly. Movie 10 Broly surpassed SPC and that's all. Gohan didn't get taht owned by Broly. A total stomp IMO is like SSJ2 Gohan when he beat Perfect Cell. Broly was shown angry when he grabbed Gohan and had to be serious.

Base Hatchiyack is also above Movie 8 Broly. You do realize Hatchiyack is probably Perfect Cell'a level right???

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