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| Super Bojack Vs SSj2 Goku Vs Majin Vegeta Vs LSSJ Broly Vs SSj2 Kid Gohan Vs Super Perfect Cell | |
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| Hugga_Bear | May 26 2012, 02:12 PM Post #16 |
 
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X > Y Means X is greater than or stronger than Y. So for example Vegeta > Goku (saiyan saga). = means equal to or approximately equal to, close enough that the difference isn't really discernible so: Majin Vegeta SSJ2 = Goku SSJ2 >> means a lot stronger >>> means ridiculously stronger and >>>> or more > means so strong it's not even funny, one shot territory (>>> can also be one shot territory, it depends on context). >= means they're very close but one side is slightly stronger. I'm struggling to think of one even though there are loads...something like Piccolo (unweighted) >= Frieza 2nd form. The one on the bigger side is the stronger, so > means the one on the left of the > is stronger, the one on the right weaker. Some people also use != or =/= which means doesn't equal. |
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May 26 2012, 02:12 PM Post #17 |
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First, Gohan was a SSJ vs Dabura. Second he never said he had trained. He said he had powered up from movie 8 which proves the z fighters were weaker in movie 8 and it's obvious since the movie was released before the Cell Games and Gohan had his androids saga outfit and was stated to be weaker than Goku. Toei worked on the movie when Goku and Gohan were still in the Rosat and the z fighters are wekaer in movie 8. If Gohan had trianed so why did he need rage to go SSJ2?? Why was he unable to go SSJ2 whenhe fired the Kamehameha?? Even if he was half dead, Goku was half dead vs Kid Buu, yet he was able to go SSJ2 and SSJ3 since he trained and was strong unlike Gohan who was weaker and rusty. So no, he was not stronger. SPC was said to be as strong as Kid Gohan, if not beyond. SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in Hell. SSJ2 Goku>Broly "Regardless, movie 10 Broly should take, if he's movie 8 then the two Saiyans tie for first." Movie 8 Broly would be the weakest. Movie 8 LSSJ Broly is weaker than Base Hatchiyack who is obviously Perfect Cell's level. Super Bojack is also above Full Power Perfect Cell who rivals Base Hatchiyack who is above Movie 8 LSSJ Broly. SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC=SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>Super Bojack>Full Power Perfect Cell=Base Hatchiyack>Movie 8 LSSJ Broly>Suppressed Perfect Cell. |
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May 26 2012, 02:15 PM Post #18 |
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he never said he had trained. He said he had powered up from movie 8 which proves the z fighters were weaker in movie 8 and it's obvious since the movie was released before the Cell Games and Gohan had his androids saga outfit and was stated to be weaker than Goku. Toei worked on the movie when Goku and Gohan were still in the Rosat and the z fighters are wekaer in movie 8. If Gohan had trianed so why did he need rage to go SSJ2?? Why was he unable to go SSJ2 whenhe fired the Kamehameha?? Even if he was half dead, Goku was half dead vs Kid Buu, yet he was able to go SSJ2 and SSJ3 since he trained and was strong unlike Gohan who was weaker and rusty. So no, he was not stronger. Anime is also the same like Manga. Toei even showed the scene when Videl, Goten and Trunks are half dead so Gohan is angry so he can go SSJ2. Movie 10 Gohan is based on Gohan from the World Tourment. Movies are based off Anime. Goku is the strongest in the Anime so he is the strongest in Movie 13. Gohan is not stronger in the Anime so he is not stronger in the Movie. |
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| Hugga_Bear | May 26 2012, 02:18 PM Post #19 |
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Crossing movies over is painfully difficult. I agree that Broly movie 8 would be the weakest (or maybe Bojack, I don't rate him...). You can state things as though they're facts all you want but it doesn't make them true, I think Gohan was a SSJ2 against Dabura, being a SSJ makes no sense, unless you think Kibito got him really angry. I don't like arguing with people who just state things as fact and expect everyone to just accept it, Gohan wasn't a SSJ against Dabura, I win nernerner, that's unproductive and annoying. If Gohan was a SSJ against Dabura then blahblah is fine but on a clearly contested issue you don't just state the other side is wrong. |
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May 26 2012, 02:22 PM Post #20 |
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I never said my points are facts. I only used points which debunks those thories you said. Gohan was a SSJ vs Dabura because he had no lightening so I guess it's a fact no??? Every SSJ2 has lightening in the Manga  BTW. Toei won't make the new movie villian weaker than the last one. They even made Kid Buu>Buuhan since for them the new villian is stronger than the last one. Super Bojack is IMO above Full Power Perfect Cell who rivals Base Hatchiyack who is above Movie 8 LSSJ Broly. There are facts to support it. Edited by pakl123456, May 26 2012, 02:40 PM.
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May 26 2012, 03:01 PM Post #21 |
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Arguing with this guy is pointless. And Majin Vegeta has panels where there's no lightning, but this guy serves some weird explanation. And by the way, Broly (Movie 10) > Bio Broly, so your logic is once again wrong. Edit: Also Janemba > Hirudegarn, so your logic also fails there too. Edited by GridZero, May 26 2012, 03:03 PM.
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May 26 2012, 03:12 PM Post #22 |
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Wrong!! Vegeta was shown without lightening since he was weakened. When someone is weakened he has no lightening. However Gohan never had lightening not even once when he was at full power. Bio Broly is Broly. It's the same villian besides Bio Broly was weaker since Trunks and Goten were also weaker compared to the z fighters in movie 9, so it's different. Hirudegarn>>>Janemba. Hirudegarn is Buuhan's level (That's why movie 13 was released between episodes 270 to 271 during Vegito's and Buuhan's fight.) Janemba is way weaker than Buuhan and probably as strong as the suppressed Super Buu who fought SSJ Gotrnks or stronger than him but weaker than Super Bu'u's full power IMO. Anyway Hirudegarn is Buuhan's level and there is no doubt Janemba is weaker than Buuhan just like Gogeta is weaker than Vegito. Super Bojack should be above Full Power Perfect Cell since he lasted better after Gohan punched him and was able to use his powerful attack. Base Hatchiyack was said to above Movie 8 LSSJ Broly and Base Hatchiyack is obviously Perfect Cell's level for the same reasons I already showed. Toei won't make the new movie villian weaker than the last one. They even made Kid Buu>Buuhan. The Z fighters also weaker in movie 8 so it's obvious Bojack>Movie 8 LSSJ Broly. In movies 1-9 when the Z fighters were always shown, the new movie villian was always stronger than the last one. Edited by pakl123456, May 26 2012, 03:14 PM.
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May 26 2012, 03:15 PM Post #23 |
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Wrong. Broly = Strongest Saiyan (as stated by producer); which means he's > SSJ2 Kid Gohan which means he's > Full Power Super Bojack who got stomped by SSJ2 Gohan. Janemba > Hirudegarn Movies 12 and 13 take place in the same year. SSJ3 Goku who fought Janemba ~ SSJ3 Goku who fought Hirudegarn Janemba > Hirudegarn Nice try. |
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May 26 2012, 03:30 PM Post #24 |
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"Broly = Strongest Saiyan (as stated by producer); which means he's > SSJ2 Kid Gohan which means he's > Full Power Super Bojack who got stomped by SSJ2 Gohan." Strongest saiyan in movie 10. The producer said that when he made movie 10 which means Broly surpassed the lase villian and who was the last villian? Oh, I know SPC. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly surpased SPC and the producer said so when he made movie 10 and SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta never existed at the time of movie 10. Toei showed Goku can beat Broly in Hell without knowing about the SSJ3 so they wanted to show SSJ2 Goku>Broly. "SSJ3 Goku who fought Janemba ~ SSJ3 Goku who fought Hirudegarn" And yet Goku was still weaker than Hirudegarn and only won due to Dragon Fist. Toei made Goku the strongest in the Anime no? They probably made him the strongest after Mystic Gohan releaved his is mystic powers. This is why they showed the Goku vs Buutenks filler since they decided to make Goku stronger than Super Buu, Gotenks and Gohan at that time. Movie 12 was made during Super Buu's birth so Toei still considered Goku weaker than Super Buu since Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks were not even releaved in the Manga at the time of Movie 12. Nice try though. |
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May 26 2012, 03:55 PM Post #25 |
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No, Strongest Saiyan in Movie 8. Your logic is set into stone into your mind, so I'm done debating with you. It's like talking to a wall. |
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May 26 2012, 04:26 PM Post #26 |
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How am I stupid?? How was he the strongest in movie 8? SSJ2 didn't exist at Movie 8 and they asked the producer aboth Broly after he finished movie 11. Base Hatchiyack who rivals Perfect Cell is stronger than Movie 8 Broly. If you think Movie 8 Broly>SSJ2 Gohan so I have no words. Besides he said that Broly was set up as the strongest saiyan so he made him three movies how does it prove Broly is as strong as you claim him to be??? Strongest in Movie 8 at the time his movies was created. Every villian in the movies was the strongest at his time. Your point is moot. The producer also said Broly was set to be the strongest saiyan after he ended movie 8 which means he wanted him to be the strongest in movie 10 not in movie 8. This is why he decided to make movie 10 in the first place. Vegeta also said Goku is number 1 when he saw him fighing Kid Buu. I guess Goku>Mystic Gohan right??? Broly was set up as the strongest in movie 10 since the producer decided it after making movie 8 and even movie 9. The produver also showed in movie 11 that Goku is going to beat Broly in hell and was only aware about Goku's SSJ2 which means Toei wanted to show SSJ2 Goku>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly. You are the one who has stome instead of brain if you think Movie 8 Broly>SSJ2 Kid Gohan. SSJ2 didn't exist in movie 8 and Base Hatchiyack who is Perfect Cell's level is above Movie 8 LSSJ Broly. Edited by pakl123456, May 26 2012, 04:32 PM.
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| amsmagic | May 26 2012, 05:20 PM Post #27 |
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It would benefit your well doing in he forum if you learn how to debate. Sadly, your just forcing your opinions on people. Opinions are to be debated in separate topics. To prove your point in this topic, you need facts and proof. You have yet to show, just rehashing your same opinions, in an almost compelling manner. Also, don't double post. If you wanna address two people, edit your post. Your head is covered with walls of stone at the moment, you need to weaken that stone a bit. Your not always right, and you can't debate if you believe your word is law. |
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May 26 2012, 09:47 PM Post #28 |
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I never said my point is right. I just debunked the fan theories. Please don't think I think I am always right but this time I am right since the producer set up Broly as the strongest saiyan in Movie 10. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. I am not forcing my opinions on people I just say there is no proof about Gohan be stronger in movie 10 ot many other things since they can be easily debunked. Just saying, regardless. |
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May 27 2012, 01:12 AM Post #29 |
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He said that about Broly in Movie 8, lol. Broly is supposed to be stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, and probably SPC too. |
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| Master of Dragon Ball | May 27 2012, 01:14 AM Post #30 |
 
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Yeah, that was a quote about Movie 8, not Movie 10. |
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