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Super Bojack Vs SSj2 Goku Vs Majin Vegeta Vs LSSJ Broly Vs SSj2 Kid Gohan Vs Super Perfect Cell
Topic Started: May 26 2012, 01:06 PM (6,577 Views)
pakl123456 May 26 2012, 01:06 PM Post #1
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All-out battle royal between all the worthy SSj2 caliber fighters in DB.
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Ryuuzaki May 26 2012, 01:12 PM Post #2
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 LSSJ Broly ( Movie 10 ) >> Majin Vegeta >= Goku SSJ2 > Kid Gohan SSJ2 > Super Perfect Cell >> LSSJ Broly ( Movie 8 ) > Bojack.
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pakl123456 May 26 2012, 01:19 PM Post #3
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Vegeta SSJ2
May 26 2012, 01:12 PM
LSSJ Broly ( Movie 10 ) >> Majin Vegeta >= Goku SSJ2 > Kid Gohan SSJ2 > Super Perfect Cell >> LSSJ Broly ( Movie 8 ) > Bojack.
Wrong.

First, Super Bojack>Movie 8 LSSJ Broly, unless you think Toei would make the new movie villian weaker than the last one. Base Hatchiyack is also stronger than Movie 8 LSSJ Broly and Base Hatchiyck is obviously Perfect Cell's level. I also have Super Bojack above Full Power Perfect Cell. Movie 10 Broly is weaker than SSJ2 Goku. The weakest SSJ2'S blows managed to hurt him and SSJ2 Goku beat him in Hell.

SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC>=SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>Super Bojack>Full Power Perfect Cell>Movie 8 LSSJ Broly>Suppressed Perfect Cell.

SPC was also stated to be SSJ2 Gohan's equal so you are wrong about that. Anime states he was even stronger.
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GridZero May 26 2012, 01:38 PM Post #4
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LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) > SSJ2 Goku ~ Majin Vegeta > Super Perfect Cell ~ SSJ2 Kid Gohan >> Super Bojack

(Another thread in the wrong section)
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yoyepo May 26 2012, 01:41 PM Post #5
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in terms of pure strength, it's hard to figure out where Broly lies, but ill give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's likely around ssj2 goku and majin vegeta level.

Goku and Vegeta are better trained fighters and r smaller and probably quicker than Broly. But Broly can definitely still win if he gets in the right hits

In a battle between goku and vegeta at equal levels I see Goku winning slightly more times. Goku's spirit bomb can also wreck anyone here.

I see majin vegeta tied with goku as the strongest on this list, I also see him taking a substantial chunk of the wins

super bojack I see on the bottom of this list. kid gohan could punch a hole through him. Everyone else on this list should be able to as well. I don't see him winning at all.

Kid Gohan ssj2 may not be as strong as goku ssj2 or majin vegeta, but when he gets angry enough and releases his hidden power, as goku states in the manga, he could beat anyone, which is exactly how he beat spcell despite having less ki and being weaker than him. in buu saga we see that when gohan's full hidden power is unlocked as ultimate gohan, he's far beyond ssj3 lvl. The chance gohan will tap into this power when in a fight w/ so many opponents is probably small, but if he does he could definitely demolish anyone on this list.

and finally spcell, easily the most underrated character on this list. People easily forget that Toriyama dumbs down his own villains so that the heroes can win. For cell, this was obvious. In his fight against goku, he showed tactical planning that goku found very impressive. when trunks tried to stop him from absorbing 18, he solar flaired him in the face. Same with Piccolo. Yet cell didn't do this against assj vegeta or ssj2 gohan. Why? because they were stronger than cell, and toriyama likes to portray the stronger characters as unstoppable even if it means making the villain act like an idiot.

Anyways the bottom line is that cell has plenty of tricks up his sleeve he could use to win. he can use instant transmission and kamehameha people in the face. He can fly away and blow up the planet because he's the only fighter who can breathe in space (broly needs to make a bubble in time, and then cell can blow up planets broly tries to fly to until he runs out of air). he can solar flair and kienzan people in half. Not to mention how hard it is to dodge a death disc while fighting someone else. Lastly, he's the only one on this list who can recover from a crippling or life threatening wound, and he can use this to recover with a zenkai if he gets blown to smitherines. And it's very hard to destroy every cell in a fighter who is ssj2 lvl like u, even if maj veg and goku are higher level, they'd have to hit cell with a very very powerful attack to accomplish this. Every other villain in dbz left cells behind when they were obliterated, even nappa when heavily damage and attacked by vegeta, who was likely multiple times stronger than this damaged nappa. Cell could easily get hit by a powerful kamehameha or similar attack, not be completely destroyed, and pop back in against the "victor" stronger and own him.

out of 100 battles, here's how I see the victories

ssj2 goku-> 35
majin Vegeta-> 25
lssj Broly -> 15
spcell -> 15
ssj2 kid gohan ->10
super bojack -> 0

Broly is placed low because he's never dealt w/ fighters as strong as he is before and his battle strat depends completely on overpowering his opponents, which doesn't seem very likely to happen
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pakl123456 May 26 2012, 01:49 PM Post #6
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GridZero
May 26 2012, 01:38 PM
LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) > SSJ2 Goku ~ Majin Vegeta > Super Perfect Cell ~ SSJ2 Kid Gohan >> Super Bojack

(Another thread in the wrong section)
Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>SSJ2 Goku??? Based on what? The weakest SSJ2 was able to hurt him and Broly was shown angry. SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in Hell.

SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC=SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>Super Bojack.
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GridZero May 26 2012, 01:50 PM Post #7
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There is absolutely no proof that SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in Hell.

Goku had SSJ3 at the time, so there's no telling exactly what happened down there.
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pakl123456 May 26 2012, 01:51 PM Post #8
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yoyepo
May 26 2012, 01:41 PM
in terms of pure strength, it's hard to figure out where Broly lies, but ill give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's likely around ssj2 goku and majin vegeta level.

Goku and Vegeta are better trained fighters and r smaller and probably quicker than Broly. But Broly can definitely still win if he gets in the right hits

In a battle between goku and vegeta at equal levels I see Goku winning slightly more times. Goku's spirit bomb can also wreck anyone here.

I see majin vegeta tied with goku as the strongest on this list, I also see him taking a substantial chunk of the wins

super bojack I see on the bottom of this list. kid gohan could punch a hole through him. Everyone else on this list should be able to as well. I don't see him winning at all.

Kid Gohan ssj2 may not be as strong as goku ssj2 or majin vegeta, but when he gets angry enough and releases his hidden power, as goku states in the manga, he could beat anyone, which is exactly how he beat spcell despite having less ki and being weaker than him. in buu saga we see that when gohan's full hidden power is unlocked as ultimate gohan, he's far beyond ssj3 lvl. The chance gohan will tap into this power when in a fight w/ so many opponents is probably small, but if he does he could definitely demolish anyone on this list.

and finally spcell, easily the most underrated character on this list. People easily forget that Toriyama dumbs down his own villains so that the heroes can win. For cell, this was obvious. In his fight against goku, he showed tactical planning that goku found very impressive. when trunks tried to stop him from absorbing 18, he solar flaired him in the face. Same with Piccolo. Yet cell didn't do this against assj vegeta or ssj2 gohan. Why? because they were stronger than cell, and toriyama likes to portray the stronger characters as unstoppable even if it means making the villain act like an idiot.

Anyways the bottom line is that cell has plenty of tricks up his sleeve he could use to win. he can use instant transmission and kamehameha people in the face. He can fly away and blow up the planet because he's the only fighter who can breathe in space (broly needs to make a bubble in time, and then cell can blow up planets broly tries to fly to until he runs out of air). he can solar flair and kienzan people in half. Not to mention how hard it is to dodge a death disc while fighting someone else. Lastly, he's the only one on this list who can recover from a crippling or life threatening wound, and he can use this to recover with a zenkai if he gets blown to smitherines. And it's very hard to destroy every cell in a fighter who is ssj2 lvl like u, even if maj veg and goku are higher level, they'd have to hit cell with a very very powerful attack to accomplish this. Every other villain in dbz left cells behind when they were obliterated, even nappa when heavily damage and attacked by vegeta, who was likely multiple times stronger than this damaged nappa. Cell could easily get hit by a powerful kamehameha or similar attack, not be completely destroyed, and pop back in against the "victor" stronger and own him.

out of 100 battles, here's how I see the victories

ssj2 goku-> 35
majin Vegeta-> 25
lssj Broly -> 15
spcell -> 15
ssj2 kid gohan ->10
super bojack -> 0

Broly is placed low because he's never dealt w/ fighters as strong as he is before and his battle strat depends completely on overpowering his opponents, which doesn't seem very likely to happen


SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC=SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>Super Bojack.
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pakl123456 May 26 2012, 01:53 PM Post #9
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GridZero
May 26 2012, 01:50 PM
There is absolutely no proof that SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in Hell.

Goku had SSJ3 at the time, so there's no telling exactly what happened down there.
No, he didn't have SSJ3 at that time. SSJ3 didn't exist at the time of Movie 11 since he was not even releaved in the Manga, besides Goku told Janemba he was the second person to push him to SSJ3 after Fat Buu

SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC=SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>Super Bojack.
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GridZero May 26 2012, 01:55 PM Post #10
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Movies 11 and 12 don't happen in the same universe. The point is moot. And again, it doesn't matter. There was once an instance where an episode of DBZ was released before the manga chapter was published in Jump.

Ugh, why do you insist so much on forcing your opinion on people so much?
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pakl123456 May 26 2012, 02:02 PM Post #11
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GridZero
May 26 2012, 01:55 PM
Movies 11 and 12 don't happen in the same universe. The point is moot. And again, it doesn't matter. There was once an instance where an episode of DBZ was released before the manga chapter was published in Jump.

Ugh, why do you insist so much on forcing your opinion on people so much?
I am not forcing people, I am just saying that SSJ3 Goku didn't exist by the time of movie 11, that's all. Therefore SSJ2 Goku beat Broly.

SSJ2 Goku>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly.
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Hugga_Bear May 26 2012, 02:03 PM Post #12
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pakl123456
May 26 2012, 01:49 PM
GridZero
May 26 2012, 01:38 PM
LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) > SSJ2 Goku ~ Majin Vegeta > Super Perfect Cell ~ SSJ2 Kid Gohan >> Super Bojack

(Another thread in the wrong section)
Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>SSJ2 Goku??? Based on what? The weakest SSJ2 was able to hurt him and Broly was shown angry. SSJ2 Goku beat Broly in Hell.

SSJ2 Goku=Majin Vegeta>Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>=SPC=SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>Super Bojack.
SSJ2 Gohan from the movie is not the same as the one who fights Dabura. He states that he's trained in the gap and is stronger than before, so he's > SSJ2 Kid Gohan which is pretty powerful (same kid who overpowered Bojack and SPC).

Not sure how he'd stack against Majin Vegeta and Goku but I reckon they'd be approximately the same, Gohan had a huge lead so I'd say he's either > or = to Majin Vegeta and Goku.
For the record I think Majin Vegeta MIGHT be > Goku but by a tiny amount, if they battled for several days I think he might edge it but it's not really possible to say...

Regardless, movie 10 Broly should take, if he's movie 8 then the two Saiyans tie for first.
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GridZero May 26 2012, 02:05 PM Post #13
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Exactly. Movie 10 Gohan is ridiculously haxed. He's never neglected his training, so he's stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
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Mr. Popo May 26 2012, 02:06 PM Post #14
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 Maybe a dumb question cuz I'm a noob but what do you guys mean with these?:
'<'
'=' '
<<'
'>>'
'>='
'<='

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GridZero May 26 2012, 02:07 PM Post #15
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Mr. Popo
May 26 2012, 02:06 PM
Maybe a dumb question cuz I'm a noob but what do you guys mean with these?:
'<'
'=' '
<<'
'>>'
'>='
'<='
It means who's more powerful, in terms of strength.

Like SSJ2 ~ Majin Vegeta.

~ means equal power.

Example: LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) > SSJ2 Kid Gohan

It just means LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) is stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan
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