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May 29 2012, 11:41 AM Post #76 |
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But it's not an opinion like saying how strong Broly is. It's actually kinda fact since the Manga showed him with SSJ aura. I can't understnad why everyone thinks he was a SSJ2 if there is no proof. Listen, I might have talked about SSJ Gohan vs Dabura as a fact because I showed facts from the Manga while everyone here never showed a proof Gohan was a SSJ2 vs Dabura, at least not a total proof. Edited by pakl123456, May 29 2012, 11:42 AM.
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| amsmagic | May 29 2012, 12:03 PM Post #77 |
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I'm gonna say this one more time, you ignored my statement, probably because your "Angry" argument is pointless towards it. Like I said before, This was just a fight between Gohan and Dabura. Forget all transformations, it was just Gohan vs. Dabura. It's simply implied Gohan would go SSJ2 and I highly doubt the creator of dbz every thought people would be having a debate such as this! He didn't draw lightning, because the fight wasn't that important to him. These were just events leading to the climax, and boy did he want to get to the climax. Your reading inbetween line that aren't their. So stop, relax, and go Rewatch the series. Besides, your rage argument is fruitless. (As Goku once said) Gohan no longer needed rage to transform. Goku stated in the Cell Saga, once he transformed, he finally learned to harness his power. Not only that, but go Rewatch or re read. Gohan was NOT angry when he transformed against Kabitio. He was fine because Videl was fine. Gohan was obviously confused and shy. Stop arguing the point, because THAT is a fact, since you can't have an opinion about an obvious expression. If you say he was still angry, you my friend, have no proof. |
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May 29 2012, 01:16 PM Post #78 |
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See my point? You are unable to show me proof he was a SSJ2. You say "the fight was not important" but this is just an excuse. Show PROOF he was a SSJ2 from the Manga. You just ignored everything I posted. Yeah, Videl was fine but Gohan still wanted revenge because of what happened to her. Why do you think AT even bother to make that part when Gohan is angry when he saw Videl was half dead??? Look at his expressions when he transformed. He had an angry expression over his face. Also, if the fight was not important so why did Vegeta had lightening vs Kid Buu? Again, I never ignored you but saying "the fight was not imporatnat. is an excuse based on nothing and that proves you have no proof he was a SSJ2 and since I posted facts from the Manga which prove he was a SSJ so my point still holds. |
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May 29 2012, 01:21 PM Post #79 |
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Yes, Gohan was clearly angry, after he smiled at his classmates, and then was having a calm talk with Kibito. Oh, and hey, Majin Vegeta had a couple panels with no lightning, AFTER he'd eaten a Senzu Bean. Then he goes to fight Boo, and he has lightning. Your argument is crumbling. I think it's time to pull out this gif. now. ![]() |
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| + Clearin | May 29 2012, 01:25 PM Post #80 |
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But Kibito didn't do it to her. Gohan was clearly calm during this time, he'd have more reason to be angry agaisnt Dabura than Kibito. So you have yet to give any real reason for why Gohan wouldn't turn SSj2. All you have done is state your opinions, which is exactly what everyone else has done. There's evidence on both sides, your beliefs just don't let you see it. Edited by Clearin, May 29 2012, 01:26 PM.
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May 29 2012, 01:44 PM Post #81 |
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Gohans ssj2 characteristics can be explained. Gohan going SSJ2 without anger can be explained. Gohan is clearly SSJ2. End of story... |
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May 29 2012, 02:54 PM Post #82 |
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Wrong again! Vegeta had no lightening since he was weakened. When someone is weakened the lightening doesm't appear. Gohan was at full power and had no lightening+SSJ aura. Gohan was angry since he had the anger with him abut Videl. look his face when he transformed. He had an angry expression. Why do you AT even showed the part when Gohan got mad after Videl was beaten?
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May 29 2012, 03:03 PM Post #83 |
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![]() Majin Vegeta with no lightning for an entire panel after powering up Panels of SSJ2 Kid Gohan with no lightning Like I said... The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Edited by GridZero, May 29 2012, 03:07 PM.
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| Copy_Ninja | May 29 2012, 03:06 PM Post #84 |
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Sorry, but this is getting annoying now. I honestly don't care if you think he was SSJ, I can see why you think that way and many others agree with you. But to say that people haven't shown any kind of proof for him being SSJ2 is just plain ignorant and it's as if you're sticking your hands in your ears and saying "La La La I'm not listening." Go back and read Teen GohanZ's first post in this thread for support of the SSJ2 theory. The fact is that his hair is inconsistent and in many cases looks like the SSJ2 hair with the longer bang. No one mentioned that he was holding back an entire form against Dabura (which they logically would have done) and Daiz 7 says that he used it. Also, Gohan WAS weakened or did you forget the fact that he lost all of his ki not long before and Kibito couldn't fully restore it? |
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May 29 2012, 03:10 PM Post #85 |
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Wrong again! Vegeta had lightening immidietly in the next panel after the power up. He doesn't have to have lightening at the moment when he was shown powered up. The fact that he had lightening immidietly after proves my point. Your SSJ2 Gohan's panels don't work. |
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May 29 2012, 03:14 PM Post #86 |
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Ugh, alright, I'm done here. This has gotten ridiculous. Copy Ninja is right. In closing, here's a picture of an SSJ2 Nappa. He has lightning, so I obviously must assume he's SSJ2.
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May 29 2012, 03:15 PM Post #87 |
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No I am not. Yeah Teen Gohan is the only one who showed some solid argument and it's also debateable. It's also funny when you talk about the hair even though I already said in my post that Gohan's haor as a SSJ and SSJ2 was the same during the time of thge world tourment.. Just because they never mentioned it doesn't mean he was not a SSJ2. Daiz 2 also states Gohan only went SSJ vs kibito and Daiz 7 is full of errors. He couldn't fully restore it but he restored most of his ki which should be enough to have lightening while Magin Vegeta was completely weakened. I posted many facts from the Manga which prove he was a SSJ, yet no one except of Teen Gohan showed me a proof from the Manga. All they did is babbling about "why would he hold back?" and kept saying the same thing. |
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May 29 2012, 03:18 PM Post #88 |
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You really are desperate so you have to show an irrelevant thing? That was to show his max power like SSJ Vegito when he first showed his Full Power SSJ when he transformed against Buuhan. That only proves my point that there is no evidence he was a SSJ2. I posted many facts and you seem to ignore them. What's the problem in accepting him as a SSJ and that's all?? He was designed as a SSJ in the Manga. Edited by pakl123456, May 29 2012, 03:19 PM.
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| + Clearin | May 29 2012, 03:30 PM Post #89 |
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Yes you did post facts. I also posted facts for SSj2, 10 of them in fact. It's not my fault if you choose to ignore all 10 of them. Also most people have an angry expression when they transform such as Goten for Gohan, I already pointed this out in this very same topic to you. I don't even try to sway people's opinions on this matter, I feel like MSSj and SSj2 are both very believable answers with supporting evidence for both. But to claim he was a MSSJ as a fact and say there's nothing at all to support SSj2 is just wrong. Edit: Btw guys even if you believe Kibito didn't restore all of Gohan's ki (Which I don't believe myself, imo he restored it to full) he took a senzu bean right before fighting Buu, so any lack of power can't really be used as evidence. Edited by Clearin, May 29 2012, 03:35 PM.
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| + Pyrus | May 29 2012, 03:59 PM Post #90 |
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I don't think he was SSjin 2 there. I think he used up so much energy fighting Goku that he regressed to SSjin for that moment of "peace," and then powered back up to SSjin 2 after having his Ki revitalized. His auras before and after powering up look nothing alike. His aura before looks SSjin, like before he started fighting, and his aura after looks SSjin 2, like when he was SSjin 2, I guess. |
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