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May 30 2012, 08:00 PM Post #271 |
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It doesn't matter. Kibito thought Gohan is weaker than the Kais. This is why he said "there is no way a mortal can do that" So Kaioshin bascially meant that they were overall above the Kais. Kibito thinks Kais>>SSJ2 Gohan since he never saw how they beat Babidi's henchmen. He wasnted to gang up on Pui Pui and was surprised Base Vegeta beat him even after seeing SSJ2 Gohan's ki so that's a moot point. I repeat debunked! You also seems to ignore emost of what I said and you stick into one thing I mentioned like the skills. |
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May 30 2012, 08:02 PM Post #272 |
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So you are wrong. SSJ Goku got a lot stronger but not that stronger after 7 ears of training. SSJ2 Goku was stated to surpass Kid Gohan but not by that much since Piccolo said "Vegeta might be above SSJ2 Kid Gohan" so how can SSJ Goku>SSJ2 Adult Gohan?
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May 30 2012, 08:03 PM Post #273 |
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Oh yes and Z fighters are idiots for beliving SSJ Gohan > SSJ Goku. Its clearly Cell > SSJ Goku > SSJ Gohan in manga, right ? Should we go by what is stated or what pictures are showing to us ? Statments say Gohan > Goku. Pictures say Goku > Gohan. You still have Kaioshin as an idiot even after seeing how much power saiyans have. You call Gohans powers a skill when its clearly tremendous power in words. You are the only one ignorant in here because you are only one in here who says Gohan is SSJ. |
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May 30 2012, 08:04 PM Post #274 |
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So why did he say Gohan can't pull off the Z sword based on the fact that the Kais couldn't have done it?? That means he considered the Kais above him. I repeat, debunked! |
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| + KingOfAllSaiyans | May 30 2012, 08:04 PM Post #275 |
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Yes he saw Gohan power up but never Vegeta. Which is why he is amazed that Vegeta was able to handle him so easily. |
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| * Stark | May 30 2012, 08:05 PM Post #276 |
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I have Son Gohan at Kazentai Cell's power and Mastered Super Saiya-jin Son Goku a bit stronger. :3 |
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| + Clearin | May 30 2012, 08:05 PM Post #277 |
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I actually explained this to you on the very first page. The following all contribute to why I think this: 1. Rage boost I give SSj2 Kid Gohan 2. Small SSJ2 multiplier (x2) 3. Gohan losing strength I have Goku quite a bit stronger than Kid Gohan but I have SSJ2 Goku a little stronger than SSj2 Kid Gohan with rage boost. I'm not going to explain this to you again. Edited by Clearin, May 30 2012, 08:06 PM.
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May 30 2012, 08:09 PM Post #278 |
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See how stupid you get? Now you keep mentionin the skills without trying to debunk my statement about the Kais. Okay frget about the skills. I was wrong about that but Kaioshin told that to Kibito based on the fact that Kibito claimed Gohan can't pull off the Z sword since the Kais couldn't so Kibito considerd Gohan as weaker than the Kais so Kaioshin basically meant to the fact that Gohan, Goku and Vegeta are overall above the Kais due to the fact that they easily beat Babidi's henchmen. Kaioshin wanted to gang up on Pui Pui who was beaten by Base Vegeta and Kaioshin was amazed even after seeing SSJ2 Gohan's power so I guess Base Vegeta>SSJ2 Gohan? I repeast debunked. I say he was a SSJ since I showed facts which still hold since they were not debunked (at least not most of them) while you only showed that point which can also being debunked and it has been debunked. |
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May 30 2012, 08:10 PM Post #279 |
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This is getting absurd now. I don't see why everyone is even arguing. There's no way in HFIL that this guy's opinion will change. |
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| + Clearin | May 30 2012, 08:11 PM Post #280 |
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I'm not even trying to change his opinion. I'm just defending my own, and I'm getting bored of that. |
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May 30 2012, 08:11 PM Post #281 |
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He wanted to gang up on him. Why if he saw SSJ2 Gohan's ki which is higher than Pui Pui. This is why the whole Kibito's point can't hold. |
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May 30 2012, 08:13 PM Post #282 |
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SSJ2 Goku was stated to surpass SSJ2 Kid Gohan after he acheived SSJ2. The diffrence between SSJ Goku in the Buu arc is not that big since Piccolo doubted if Majin Vegeta was above Kid Gohan or not.
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May 30 2012, 08:17 PM Post #283 |
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Someone neads to close this topic. This is realy going no where. I think that this debate has most pages on this site because one guy whants to have last word or something like " i am right and all of you are wrong ". |
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| + Clearin | May 30 2012, 08:18 PM Post #284 |
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I didn't say it proved anything, it's just what I think. I don't try to pass off my opinions as facts ![]() Also seriously why bring up Piccolo's statement again? I literally just explained this in the very same post you quoted |
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May 30 2012, 08:21 PM Post #285 |
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I never said that. It's just that the facts are in my side since I have points from the Manga which still hold. Gohan and Dabura were unable to damage the cacoon. That's proof he was a SSJ since SSJ2 Gohan filled almost half of the needed enrgy. Dabura was much stronger than Gohan and barely ofnlicted any damage. This is the proof he was a SSJ. Just deal with this fact. you can disagree but that doesn't change what the manga points us and it shows he was a SSJ. Simple as that |
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