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Why Gohan was a SSJ vs Dabura
Topic Started: May 25 2012, 01:28 PM (35,109 Views)
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When someone is dead set on their opinion, there is no changing it no matter how much evidence you put forth.

I do believe that Gohan was a SSJ2, I guess I just cant comprehend why he wouldnt be. Dabura is trying to KILL him...why wouldnt he use all of his power? Also Puccio bring up a good point, they saw his SSJ2 power at the world tournament...if he wasnt using it wouldnt they say something?
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Thala na Gethu!

Vegeta SSJ2
May 30 2012, 02:04 PM
This topic is just incredible.
Gohan was a SSJ2. Man , look at his hair , have one stand ( SSJ2 ) and his violent aura. Why you can't understand ? Maybe by this little ''trick'' of Toriyama , Toei make SSJ2 Vegeta and all Movie 13 without lightings to SSJ2.
It's very simple to see in manga the violent aura and the hair with one stand.
This pal hit it right on the head.

Also, we have another MoDB here...
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No, no, MoDB is merciful and funny at times.

This is not.
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Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 30 2012, 02:08 PM
Also, we have another MoDB here...
You want to say i'm like MoDB ??
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Vegeta SSJ2
May 30 2012, 02:36 PM
Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 30 2012, 02:08 PM
Also, we have another MoDB here...
You want to say i'm like MoDB ??
I think he means the other guy.
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Not at all pal. The guy that disliked your post.

By the way, I think this thread has run its course & rather than countinous likes, dislikes, trash-talkin etc, I wish Mod's would close this thread.
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I see now. Anyway Gohan was a SSJ2 at Dabura.
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GridZero
May 30 2012, 02:16 PM
No, no, MoDB is merciful and funny at times.

This is not.
I like MoDB </3.
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Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 30 2012, 02:38 PM
Not at all pal. The guy that disliked your post.

By the way, I think this thread has run its course & rather than countinous likes, dislikes, trash-talkin etc, I wish Mod's would close this thread.
Excuse me?
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Thala na Gethu!

Yes pal, any problem?

Im done here by the way.
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May 30 2012, 01:44 PM
Ok we know at the tournament gohan was ssj2, someone post a manga pic of gohan powering up against dabura or when he powered up to detroy the egg


Edit: pak - the evidence u provided proves he was ssj2, u havent shown he was a ssj & ive already proved my point that hes ssj2
What are you talking about? First you showed nothing, second I showed facts from the Manga which proves he was a SSJ. Show me some facts then talk. Gohan said the reason why Buu's cacoon was overflowing with energy was because Goku and Vegeta were SSJ2. SSJ2 Gohan filled almost half of Buu's cacoon so his energy has to inflict a huge damage to Buu's cacoon, especially Dabura who said Gohan was trash implying he was much stronger than him and yet, Dabura's and Gohan's ki were barely able to famage to cacoon. That proves Gohan was a SSJ. End. I said Gohan was a SSJ and showed facts from the Manag. You never showed me a fact from the manga that he was a SSJ2.
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May 30 2012, 01:46 PM
You're in no position to assume anything from Toriyama though.

And Toriyama supervised Daizenshuu 7's release, and it says Gohan was an SSJ2. Now, they can contradict each other all they want, but both have been approved by Toriyama, so fans can believe whichever they want.

What I'm trying to say is that ''Gohan being SSJ against Dabura'' is not a fact. It's a theory that can be proven, and more or less disproven just like any other.

And there's evidence that he was an SSJ2. You just don't care because it won't change your opinion either way.

Edit: Gohan powering up to ''kill'' Boo's shell.

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Daizenshuu contradicts itself, therefore can't be trusted. It's not a theory. God, the Manga shows him as a SSJ and with SSJ aura. Goku told him to get mad so he can have his full power and his full power is his SSJ2. Just like Gohan when he beat Cell, Goku told him to get angry so he can release his full strength as a SSJ. He was a SSJ. I have seen no valid point he was a SSJ2. All you guys keep saying us "why did he hold back?" You keep ignoting facts. He had no aura but had it later and had a SSJ aura.

"Y would kai be amazed at gohans ssj power but not gokus & vegetas ssj2 power"

Because he never saw SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta. He was even surprised why the damage was too big and Gohan had to explain him since Goku and Vegeta were using SSJ2. Besides SSJ2 Goku>SSJ2 Gohan.

"Y would gohan not go ssj2 to destroy the egg?"

Stop saying the same old ***** and show facts. He was not angry enough, that's why. The same Goku said so.

"Ive already said gohan was not at full power against dabura, goku gave gohan a senzu, he still didnt have electricity, how do we know gohan was 2 weak to have electricity?"

No such a thing "too weak" since Gohan was weaker, not weak.

"I dont understand y u think gohan would b just ssj against 2 warriors stronger than cell"

You are iignoring my big post. Dabura is not stronger than Cell and nowhere near SPC. Goku could of talked about the Cell he fought and Vegeta said he can beat Dabura and Goku who never knew Vegeta had SSJ2 never contradicted him. Dabura is Cell's suppressed level or maybe higher. This is why Dabura called Gohan trash since Dabura was much stronger since Gohan was MSSJ. If Dabura is SPC, why was he unable to iinflict any damage to Buu's caccon?? This is a prof Gohan was a SSJ. Why do you keep arguing with it? I showed many facts from the Manga which debunk yours which proves you never even read my post. Gohanw as at full power he ate a senzu bean.

Vegeta SSJ2
May 30 2012, 01:46 PM
This topic is just incredible.
Gohan was a SSJ2. Man , look at his hair , have one stand ( SSJ2 ) and his violent aura. Why you can't understand ? Maybe by this little ''trick'' of Toriyama , Toei make SSJ2 Vegeta and all Movie 13 without lightings to SSJ2.
It's very simple to see in manga the violent aura and the hair with one stand.
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It's incredible how you guys keep ignoring my post. Gohan's hair as a SSJ and SSJ2 was the same during the wrold tourment. He had the SSJ aura. Toei is not AT and Movies are non canon and Toei neglects the lightening but AT never did, In the Manga every SSJ2 has lightening. Toei neglected the lightening in the Kid Buu's fight but AT never did. Gohan was a SSJ. Again no proof he was a SSJ2.
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Goku told gohan to unleash his full power against cell when he was already ssj2 FACT, you havent provided any facts just your own opinion, everything youve shown is proof he was ssj2 in my eyes & many others, show me in the manga where gohan says "im ssj1" u cant end of story. So until there is REAL proof you can believe what u like

Edit: also goku could mean the cell he fought, but he was alive when cell fought ssj2 gohan, if he believes dabura was as strong as thst cell or stronger & gohan was weaker than he was then, then what ur sayin is gohan was superweak against dabura if he was only ssj
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KingOfAllSaiyans
May 30 2012, 02:06 PM
When someone is dead set on their opinion, there is no changing it no matter how much evidence you put forth.

I do believe that Gohan was a SSJ2, I guess I just cant comprehend why he wouldnt be. Dabura is trying to KILL him...why wouldnt he use all of his power? Also Puccio bring up a good point, they saw his SSJ2 power at the world tournament...if he wasnt using it wouldnt they say something?
He was a SSJ. Goku did tell him to get mad so he can use full power and this is his SSJ2. Gohan was unable to use full power when Cell was about to kill him since he was not angry enough so I am not surprised he couldn't go SSJ2 vs Dabura. I find it amazing how you guys keep ignoring every statement I posted which are defenetly proof he was a SSJ.
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Just because the Daiz contradicts itself on some matters doesn't mean it can be trusted when it comes to all matters.
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